Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

[Azaad]

Can you ask him to join DFB? I will try as well.

Am not on twitter. Account was suspended long ago. It's in read mode only. He was a member of DFI. I'm sure if you requested him , he'd oblige.

 

[Viper316]

Yeah but it would leave us vulnerable vis a vis Chinese.

Even if pakis are destroyed, we would have to immediately do something or else Chinese might actually go for invasion if they find us vulnerable.

But we must go for conflict with pakis. Chinese won't go for a air conflict in the mountains. We have to take that risk.

Apart from chinese traditional salami slicing CCP wont risk an all out war with us. when our forces are engaged in the west, vultures will venture to get their pie in the eastern ladakh. Yes they shall gain few inches of land but our objective is bigger which is extending our border till Afghanistan, CCP will lose billions of dollars once we gain full control of Northern paxtan.

 

[samsaptaka]

The established policy of the Congress party as well as our foreign policy establishment was people to people contact in the hope that our progress will be seen by enough Paxtanis to convince people back home that better trade & people to people ties was the way forward to gradually improve Indo Pak ties.

Why so soft & smooth talking by giving benefit of doubt to Khangress ? The established policy of khangress was and is gazwa e hind by encouraging muslim number multiplication at any cost and destruction of hindus. For that end be it BD or Paikhanistan, or rohingya, all are welcome to their party, simple. You take 1 full page to explain what i explained in a single sentence. Its this notion of old gen (I'm 40 myself haha) like vajpayee, IAS babus, MeA etc...to play the gentleman game with mlecchas is what has cost us dear. Maulana also tried the same game many time with them - allowing porkies to 'investigate' pathankot (what a stupid move), giving sareee to Nawaz sharif's wife or mother (when they wear tents)...For what ? for fking what ? So that more Hindus can die and they get to play round & round the mulberry bush ?

 

[Viper316]

Why one on one meetings with armed forces chiefs


View: https://x.com/manishindiatv/status/1918925051165892784?t=WU_ijUkXiDLTK1ls0wW1gw&s=19

 

[spikey360]

Why one on one meetings with armed forces chiefs


View: https://x.com/manishindiatv/status/1918925051165892784?t=WU_ijUkXiDLTK1ls0wW1gw&s=19

Just like hot shot CEOs of Microsoft, Google and Facebook, our Pradhan Mantri is also a fan of back to back publicly announced meetings.

 

[samsaptaka]

In a matter of serious concern, CT/GD Munir Ahmed of 41 Battalion of CRPF has been dismissed from service with immediate effect for concealing his marriage to a Pakistani national and knowingly harbouring her beyond the validity of her visa. His actions were found to be in violation of service conduct and detrimental to national security: CRPF


View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1918666174222524536?t=O9l6JORVavTibHLIpJz1BA&s=19

What about his comrades and CO who for sure would have known abt it but chose to turn the other way ? They should also be fired after investigation

 

[Azaad]

Why so soft & smooth talking by giving benefit of doubt to Khangress ? The established policy of khangress was and is gazwa e hind by encouraging muslim number multiplication at any cost and destruction of hindus. For that end be it BD or Paikhanistan, or rohingya, all are welcome to their party, simple. You take 1 full page to explain what i explained in a single sentence. Its this notion of old gen (I'm 40 myself haha) like vajpayee, IAS babus, MeA etc...to play the gentleman game with mlecchas is what has cost us dear. Maulana also tried the same game many time with them - allowing porkies to 'investigate' pathankot (what a stupid move), giving sareee to Nawaz sharif's wife or mother (when they wear tents)...For what ? for fking what ? So that more Hindus can die and they get to play round & round the mulberry bush ?

I'm glad you quoted me . For a nation that has given the world Kautilya's Arthashastra or Kamandaka's Niti Shastra or even Itihaasas like The Mahabharata & The Ramayana which apart from bring treatises of Dharma also have a huge corpus on Diplomacy , Warfare , Politics , Strategies ,etc . the average Indian as represented by you here not only have zero knowledge of such stuff , they'd probably be proud of their ignorance too.

All I see here are knee jerk reactions & pleas for instant gratification as if war is a street side brawl . Anyone involved in the latter would know that requires preparation as well .

As far as the Congress goes , irrespective what you think or feel , they have been by far the most dominant party in the Indian politics pre & post independent India which in turn means the average Indian doesn't or at any rate didn't share your thoughts however honest & genuine it may have been .

Such organisations also don't tend to disappear overnight , they take time & need external help apart from internal contradictions to emerge to help bring them down . It's a frustratingly slow process but its happening although its pernicious ideology will persist in different forms long after the Congress has gone much like it has been for communism.

So in order to break down things for your benefit , we didn't arrive at where we did in an instant , it took us almost 75 years . The same is true in an opposite sense for Paxtan. They won't decline as fast as we want them to but decline they have & will as we go into the future. Our job is to aid in that decline which we are in our own way , slow at first to be accelerated gradually.

This is a long game . Fans of T20 shouldn't be viewing Test matches expecting the intensity of a T20 for sooner rather than later they'd get bored & impatient in barely an hour's play . That's the condition of many out here , including you.

 

[samsaptaka]

I'm glad you quoted me . For a nation that has given the world Kautilya's Arthashastra or Kamandaka's Niti Shastra or even Itihaasas like The Mahabharata & The Ramayana which apart from bring treatises of Dharma also have a huge corpus on Diplomacy , Warfare , Politics , Strategies ,etc . the average Indian as represented by you here not only have zero knowledge of such stuff , they'd probably be proud of their ignorance too.

All I see here are knee jerk reactions & pleas for instant gratification as if war is a street side brawl . Anyone involved in the latter would know that requires preparation as well .

As far as the Congress goes , irrespective what you think or feel , they have been by far the most dominant party in the Indian politics pre & post independent India which in turn means the average Indian doesn't or at any rate didn't share your thoughts however honest & genuine it may have been .

Such organisations also don't tend to disappear overnight , they take time & need external help apart from internal contradictions to emerge to help bring them down . It's a frustratingly slow process but its happening although its pernicious ideology will persist in different forms long after the Congress has gone much like it has been for communism.

So in order to break down things for your benefit , we didn't arrive at where we did in an instant , it took us almost 75 years . The same is true in an opposite sense for Paxtan. They won't decline as fast as we want them to but decline they have & will as we go into the future. Our job is to aid in that decline which we are in our own way , slow at first to be accelerated gradually.

This is a long game . Fans of T20 shouldn't be viewing Test matches expecting the intensity of a T20 for sooner rather than later they'd get bored & impatient in barely an hour's play . That's the condition of many out here , including you.

Nowhere did I ask for Instagram action, I am only saying that what the GoI is doing now is actually kneejerk, like deporting porkies living amongst us, banning porkie imports etc...from day 1 maulana could have treated pork as enemy terrorist state, why did he choose not to do so ?
In what way did they deserve kid glove treatment.
Same is true for BD & rohingya infiltrators. Not one has been deported over the 11 yrs bhajipao has been in power. Will it take another 50 hindus killed by rohingyas in WB for maulana to take action ?

Khangress is a 75yr old party? So fkng what ? Doesn't disprove what I wrote regarding their strategy does it ?
You keep going on tangents instead of addressing specifics.

 

[TringTringMonster]

Why one on one meetings with armed forces chiefs


View: https://x.com/manishindiatv/status/1918925051165892784?t=WU_ijUkXiDLTK1ls0wW1gw&s=19

Final review before go-ahead for tri services.

I like that we are stretching out our action. We must remember that Pakis's oil, forex and other reserves are dwindling the more we stretch this out. High stress fatigue is setting in too.

I wonder if we have any ways to gauge the numbers.

 

[Ajatshatru]

Final review before go-ahead for tri services.

I like that we are stretching out our action. We must remember that Pakis's oil, forex and other reserves are dwindling the more we stretch this out. High stress fatigue is setting in too.

I wonder if we have any ways to gauge the numbers.

I’m not concerned about delays in response—every successful military operation requires thorough planning. Professional militaries always undergo extensive preparation before launching any action. Public opinion cannot and should not hasten military decisions, as the public is not responsible for planning or executing military operations.

 

[ezsasa]

it's been 11 days since the attack, and so much discussion on the topic both domestically and in foreign lands. i haven't seen or listened to even once someone listing out the efforts made by GoI to build global consensus against terrorism. folks sitting outside the country may not be inclined or know about this, but exfarts sitting in the country don't seem to have mentioned this.

if our own exfarts do not know about efforts made by GoI since 2014, what's the point even.

there is a case to be made here, that GoI/Modi govt since 2014 has spent a large capital of diplomatic efforts on this issue, and the world is not interested in solving this issue, limiting the diplomatic options for GoI to rely on.

- number of bilateral and multilateral diplomatic statements that mention terrorism
- efforts made by GoI to strengthen FATF(non military options)
- number of global forums, GoI made sure terrorism is raised

this sort of information has to come from India, we are alone in this world, can't expect folks who betting against us to make a case on India's behalf.

gora commentators are slowly building a case, that if there is military escalation or indus water stops, it's India's fault. giving free pass to terrorism. just like they did with israel.

and

incase anyone comes across interviews or podcasts especially to goras, where folks representing Indian point of view has managed to turn the tables .

i.e asking the gora interviewer/podcaster about their views on terrorism,
and what should be an appropriate response in such situations,
and if the victim country does not respond appropriately, what do they think terrorist groups will do next.

post it here, incase anyone comes across such an interview or a podcast.

if members can think of more such questions, post them as a reply to this post.


everyone is staying in the comfort zone of making gormint/forces accountable by demanding answers.
let's see if our public is shown any signs of understanding the game outside of our comfort zone of accountability.

 

[Azaad]

Nowhere did I ask for Instagram action, I am only saying that what the GoI is doing now is actually kneejerk, like deporting porkies living amongst us, banning porkie imports etc...from day 1 maulana could have treated pork as enemy terrorist state, why did he choose not to do so ?

There's a reason the BJP or Modi personally is doing now what you think it should have been doing in 2014 itself.

Hint for you - the BJP's founding ideology , its record , its links to the RSS , the RSS itself , Modi's own track record as constructed by the left liberal narrative especially with respect to the Gujarat riots & how are they perceived in the West among the global elites for that's where real power lies.

In what way did they deserve kid glove treatment.
Same is true for BD & rohingya infiltrators. Not one has been deported over the 11 yrs bhajipao has been in power. Will it take another 50 hindus killed by rohingyas in WB for maulana to take action ?

Evidently you're unaware the SC stepped in to stop deportations of the Rohingyas & that's where things stand as of now.

Khangress is a 75yr old party? So fkng what ? Doesn't disprove what I wrote regarding their strategy does it ?
You keep going on tangents instead of addressing specifics.

The founding of the INC goes all the way back to 1888 . Whether it's that same Congress in existence today can be debated.

Their world view especially that of Gandhi & later that of his acolyte Nehru have been the governing philosophy of that party for the past 100 years now & it is this philosophy which has been bought along with the Congress party by the masses which ensured they were in power for more than 2/3rds of the time since our independence.

You think such views will be washed away overnight just because you don't like it & be replaced with the ideology you want ?

Since you come across as very passionate about your theories , why don't you do something ? Join a political party & get working on the ground to disseminate your ideology.

See how many takers they find or write a blog with your views on what you think are the many ills our society faces & what you believe your solutions ought to be.

 

[spikey360]

Anyone involved in the latter would know that requires preparation as well .

Let's say one fine day, without warning, Pak Army attacks - Indian Army will take 14-15 days to fire the first bullet. Because ... Preparation.
My question to you MaoMao is very simple... why is there not even a bombing campaign initiated yet? No one questions the need for preparedness, but Pakistan is not a new enemy, neither are terrorist attacks and promised punishments anything new. So why is neither of the tri-forces ready with any kind of quick response.

What is this mythical revenge which will be extracted, for which one has to allow Pakistan?
a) Vacate all terror camps, which could have been bombed by surprise
b) Shift man and machinery towards the possible conflagration areas
c) Allow Pakistan the breathing space to prepare or beg materials from allied Islamic countries
d) Raise diplomatic support from all over the world such that even people who phoned in promising moral support now say - solve it with diplomacy
e) Allow Pakistan to mate some warheads to strategic missiles, which for all practical purposes - are kept separate in peacetimes.

 

[Patriots]

View: https://x.com/NewsArenaIndia/status/1918937616923214302

 

[Patriots]

Pakistan Wale kal soch rahethe ki navy se attack hoga,,,,aag firse confused airforce attack karegi...
Modi is meeting armed forces chief s

 

[shade2]

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Bunch of articles in TOI to calm down the mood of the nation

It will automagically calm down as time passes.
These are only IT Cell spindoctor articles to do "waow Gobi dodged a bullet, didn't fall into pakistan's trap, master stroke!" later on, like Maunmohan's "I am proud to have exercised restraint "

 

[Azaad]

Let's say one fine day, without warning, Pak Army attacks - Indian Army will take 14-15 days to fire the first bullet. Because ... Preparation.

You mean Paxtan will be undertaking all this preparation in isolation without the world knowing anything about it leave aside India ?

My question to you MaoMao is very simple... why is there not even a bombing campaign initiated yet?

What do you want bombed ?

No one questions preparedness, but Pakistan is not a new enemy, neither are terrorist attacks and promised punishments anything new. So why is neither of the tri-forces ready with any kind of quick response.

Please elaborate what are the targets you want destroyed .

What is this mythical revenge which will be extracted, for which one has to allow Pakistan?

I ask you once again short of complete annihilation thru a N war assuming it happens one day & is sufficient to take them all out what in your opinion can or should you do with ~ 250 million people of whom a substantial set are radicalised ?

a) Vacate all terror camps, which could have been bombed by surprise

You think those terror camps would still have those occupants after what happened at Balakot ?

b) Shift man and machinery towards the possible conflagration areas

And ...?

c) Allow Pakistan the breathing space to prepare or beg materials from allied Islamic countries

They've been doing that even otherwise.

d) Raise diplomatic support from all over the world such that even people who phoned in promising moral support now say - solve it with diplomacy

I think both of us were around when 7/10 happened in Israel. What was the voice coming out of all those western capitals then ?

Was it Israel is completely justified in seeking justice or revenge ? That they could take their own sweet time about it ? That they could entirely depopulate Gaza & the world would sit around & watch ? I seem to forget.

 

[TopWatcher]

So, this is again a master-stroke by Chanakya, right?

Pakistan Wale kal soch rahethe ki navy se attack hoga,,,,aag firse confused airforce attack karegi...
Modi is meeting armed forces chief s

So PM meetings are a divert strategy?

Right?

 

[samsaptaka]

Evidently you're unaware the SC stepped in to stop deportations of the Rohingyas & that's where things stand as of now.

What's stopping GoI from showing data regarding how Rohingyas are being used to engineer demographic change and tamper national security? Oh I know, they haven't even bothered to collect the data have they ?
Or what's stopping GoI from simply using the same method that they use to infiltrate, to deport them aka cut a wire in the fence, bribe border guards and kick them out and threaten to fire upon them if they dare turn back ? Once out of here what can SC do ?
All boils down to political will, if you really did want to address the issue, they could have done it 101 ways, not cry and simp saying SC this SC that etc....bcos if Khangress can enable illegal immigration, you can do the reverse either legally or illegally ?
All this 'oh its not as simple as you say' BS doesn't fly bcos we hindus neither have the time given the demographic ticking time bomb, nor the patience anymore of putting up with this BS, esp. after giving 2 times full majority for an allegedly hindu supporting party

 

[Azaad]

What's stopping GoI from showing data regarding how Rohingyas are being used to engineer demographic change and tamper national security? Oh I know, they haven't even bothered to collect the data have they ?
Or what's stopping GoI from simply using the same method that they use to infiltrate, to deport them aka cut a wire in the fence, bribe border guards and kick them out and threaten to fire upon them if they dare turn back ? Once out of here what can SC do ?
All boils down to political will, if you really did want to address the issue, they could have done it 101 ways, not cry and simp saying SC this SC that etc....bcos if Khangress can enable illegal immigration, you can do the reverse either legally or illegally ?
All this 'oh its not as simple as you say' BS doesn't fly bcos we hindus neither have the time given the demographic ticking time bomb, nor the patience anymore of putting up with this BS, esp. after giving 2 times full majority for an allegedly hindu supporting party

If at 40 you haven't understood democracy or the unique way Indian democracy operates then there's little hope you'd understand it in future.

I wish you the best in life though if I were you I would try to calm down lest I have an aneurysm about something beyond my intellect & pay grade terribly inconveniencing my family in the bargain.

As far as your rant on the court proceedings about the Rohingya deportations go you can find them online either broadcast by YT or you can log into the SC portal & look there. I'm sure you'd get most of your answers there if not all of them.