Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

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jaijaganath said:
Well said
As you are from one of the top nit u would have much clearer picture our the placement scenario and conditions
But if u want to their part then things would be different

Let's keep aside the chidigiri and all those stuff which we are famous for
But if look at the core branches, take for example ECE tell me how many institutes teach them VHDL or Verilog how many of them teach fgpa practically how many of them teach Arduino or any sort of microcontroller how many of them teach them embedded C(industrial level)
Skill set required for ECE related jobs are far more than these

But I am sure these things would be taught in top iits nits bits and state govt clgs but still they are offered very less salary and even the companies don't come in numbers
Bcoz skill set and knowledge required to work in such niche industry is way too high and not possible for a btech grad to fulfill it

Moreover coding skills are easily accessible and cheap in compare to others and those skills have market demand
But as we can see current situation where tech industry is facing serious shift in their operations things aren't good there too
Myself being an ECE student trying to monkey balance btw coding and electronics related stuffs finding very difficult to do better in either of the field

All in all everyone needs to upgrade their game pvt cos need to invest in rnd and avoid chindigiri but even clgs need to upgrade their syllabus and teaching methodology with present scenario
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Dont know much about ECE since I am from electrical but 8051 with C was taught to us as an elective course, though the main problem isnt about the curriculum its mainly about there being offers that attract students so that students start wanting to go towards their core domains, lets be honest most of us btech students dont learn much from the classes anyways most of the professors lack in skill even in premier institutes thats the ground reality pdfs and youtube is our saviour for exams moreover everything basic a company can demand during placements can be learned using youtube or other materials. So it ultimately depends upon the pay $$ if the pay is high students will opt it more and put efforts towards that field.
 
I believe the plan underway is to reduce Pakistan to Punjab-sindhistan and go forward from there towards how to get back PoK after that or during the formation of Punjab-Sindhistan. Balochistan is already on fire and it was critical error of Pakjabis to make enemies outta the Baloch,because its a vast and rugged land and making enemies of natives of vast and rugged land is best way to lose said vast and rugged land over long term. We can keep fanning the flames and turn it into a raging fire if we can come to a direct understanding with IRAN to carve Balochistan outta Pakistan.

As for Khyber-Pakhtunkwa- itsa more complicated- Pathan loyalty to state of Pakistan is more clan and region based than anything - for eg Niazi, Afridi, etc Pathans are loyal to Pakjabistan. Ie, the peshawar valley & mountains to its south are loyal strongholds of the Paki govt. The pasthun belt north to it- Dir, Buner, Swat- etc are basically apathetic and left mostly alone to their devices but the belt of pathans from Kurram river valley south onwards- all the way to Balochistan and Quetta region- this is the region on fire and under the Pakjabi boot and seething. Well we all know outcome of Pathans going angry at their rulers- like when they did against mughals even, so that too, give it time.

So far, the Pathan-on-Pathan violence has been minimal from what i can tell, as its Pakjabi army deployed in Balochistan+Fata and the loyal pathans of PAK army are mostly sitting around in kashmir frontier. Thats how the region has been managed so far, but unless the pathan situation falls down to pathan-on-pathan clan based violence, there is no chance of Pakistan salvaging the situation in their borderlands with Afghanistan. Only Peshawar valley and dir-buner-swat pathan are the ones they can count on - they are also a sizeablepart of the pathan population, since this is the most densely populated part of the pashtun world. But its definitely also going south for Pakistan state in the entire region south of Kurram valley - and that is a significant chunk of Pakistan going bye-bye in the next 10-15 years.

Once Pakistan is fragmented, then we must not make the stratgic mistake of 'keep managing the fragments and play them off of each other to keep our asses safe' like Vijanagar did and figure out a way to make the Indus+khyber the hard frontier for hindustan.
 
whatever said:
Dont know much about ECE since I am from electrical but 8051 with C was taught to us as an elective course, though the main problem isnt about the curriculum its mainly about there being offers that attract students so that students start wanting to go towards their core domains, lets be honest most of us btech students dont learn much from the classes anyways most of the professors lack in skill even in premier institutes thats the ground reality pdfs and youtube is our saviour for exams moreover everything basic a company can demand during placements can be learned using youtube or other materials. So it ultimately depends upon the pay $$ if the pay is high students will opt it more and put efforts towards that field.
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Yes ofc
It's all about pay
And it's true u can get through clg interviews through utube as that's the only way we escape from pathetic profs but core industry won't work like that

Even though u clear the interview but that doesn't make u suitable to do their critical jobs
For that they need to train you and teach essential things
Its just like mass recruitments by infosys wipro tcs
Where they teach things at bare minimum pay then conduct tests and evaluations after that they either they remove you or they give you certain hike
After that it's upto u how u shape ur career
Same is the case here in core companies when they hire undergrad but here they mostly retain with no salary hikes irrespective of any clg but there are few exceptions though
 
rock127 said:
SINDH ON FIRE! 🔥🔥🔥

While Mulla Munir officially is a FAILED Marshal... parts of PoS(Pak occupied Sindh) & PoB(Pak Occupied Balochistan) are again burning.

Sindhis are RIOTING and KILLING Pakjabi Police and Ministers at will using AK-47!!! Pakjabis are planning 6 DAMS/CANALS for Pakjab and not give adequate water to Sindh/Balochistan countries. Basically Pakjabis want to teach a lesson to Sindhi/Baloch as they did to Banglu Kanglus of 1970's.

Not to mention how Baloch are fighting the Pakjabis.

India SHOULD be ready and make sure to achieve long term STRATEGIC GOALS!

Inko TATTI dhone ko bhi pani nahi denge. Jake PATTHAR/PATTE/Mitti use karo! :roflb:

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India should seize this opportunity and do outreach to Sindhis and even Saraikis - push them to start/resume their own movements along with the Baloch and Pashtuns, and make sure they want for nothing (would be very easy since both of these regions directly border India). India could quite easily make alternative arrangements to supply their rightful share of river-waters to them while circumventing North Punjab. North Punjab/Fauji Foundation will never give them their proper due of anything.
 
Muzh said:
Taiwan strongly backs India's military action against Pakistan. We need to support our Taiwanese friends as well. This is the first time that I have noticed Taiwan supporting India openly.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqr4tyRBhfA
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Absolutely, one more idea whose time has come. Not to mention, Taiwan is a very valuable partner as far as technology, cyberwarfare and intelligence (they're essentially the same people as China) domains are concerned. In fact, even though some of the countries in the region including Taiwan are nominally under the US missile & nuclear shield - I still think India should propose sharing cruise missile, ballistic missile, and nuclear weapons technology with them and proliferate such weapons in the region, in response to China giving Pakistan ballistic missile and nuclear weapons technology decades ago. Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and Vietnam would be a solid start.

And while on the topic - some people, who rake up that super-old map with ROC territorial claims also need to realize that it's pretty much irrelevant and meaningless now in this day and age for all practical purposes. That's not a reason to slow down or mess up relations with Taiwan.
 
Nishaanbaaz said:
Absolutely, one more idea whose time has come. Not to mention, Taiwan is a very valuable partner as far as technology, cyberwarfare and intelligence (they're essentially the same people as China) domains are concerned. In fact, even though some of the countries in the region including Taiwan are nominally under the US missile & nuclear shield - I still think India should propose sharing cruise missile, ballistic missile, and nuclear weapons technology with them and proliferate such weapons in the region, in response to China giving Pakistan ballistic missile and nuclear weapons technology decades ago. Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and Vietnam would be a solid start.

And while on the topic - some people, who rake up that super-old map with ROC territorial claims also need to realize that it's pretty much irrelevant and meaningless now in this day and age for all practical purposes. That's not a reason to slow down or mess up relations with Taiwan.
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Taiwan is an island nation, a very small island nation. And thus, their defense challenge is quite unique. I think what Taiwan needs, if it wants to become a bit more assertive, is following:

a. A coastal radar network that can monitor against potential Chinese amphibious assault
b. An Indian style hi-tech air defense system capable of thwarting aerial assault from Chinese air force
c. A variety of field guns, howitzers, and rockets to engage in high intensity shelling
d. Helicopter gunships and fixed-wing aircrafts to carry out raids against amphibious assault
e. Destroyers, frigates, corvettes, submarines, and missile boats

I do not think they would need nuclear weapons.
 
Muzh said:
Taiwan is an island nation, a very small island nation. And thus, their defense challenge is quite unique. I think what Taiwan needs, if it wants to become a bit more assertive, is following:

a. A coastal radar network that can monitor against potential Chinese amphibious assault
b. An Indian style hi-tech air defense system capable of thwarting aerial assault from Chinese air force
c. A variety of field guns, howitzers, and rockets to engage in high intensity shelling
d. Helicopter gunships and fixed-wing aircrafts to carry out raids against amphibious assault
e. Destroyers, frigates, corvettes, submarines, and missile boats

I do not think they would need nuclear weapons.
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Nothing to really do with "need" to be honest - this is more from the Indian perspective both to really put China in a strategic bind/effectively neuter them in their own backyard, and also to return the favor for what they did by giving this tech to Pakistan.

Otherwise yes, I've always argued that China simply cannot invade Taiwan even based on the current situation - even without giving Taiwan anything else beyond what it already has right now. I had a comment a while back on this thread detailing various challenges like only really being able to attack from the Strait in the West (which is a kill-zone), needing immense scale of preparation which would also be easily spotted, not having any experience in launching such a D-Day type operation etc
 
apoorv465 said:
Truth or propoganda??

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Pakis don't have HCMs even chinese are still working on it.(He probably meant CM-400 so it should ALBM)
If you remove HCMs rest is GTG.
1 Saab AWACS gone is confirmed.
No body knows how many F-16 were in the hangers we will probably never know(1 confirmed from the SAT image).
2 jets were downed certainly [1 mirage & 1JF-17blk3(if blk 1 & 2 don't have IFR probe ]
Lots of LMs gone.
Multiple Fatehs taken out(some noise about a SSM being fired but nothing can be said with certainty)
Some noise about Chinki wingloon being destroyed (unconfirmed)
 
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Guynxdor said:
🙀 4 fighter jets were eliminated in the air and 4 F-16s were obliterated on ground. Is this an official release?
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Indian Air Force stated that no fighter jets crossed into Pakistan, but people in Pakistan reported seeing jets dropping bombs near the Kirana Hills. Could it have been a drone? I’m not sure if India has any bomber drones.
 
shade2 said:
You know the guys talking about the IFS babooze with foreign settled spawn === Amerishart leverage?
That applies to any other class of baboo, uniform or "skilled" dhoti.
All together have played their part to cause this dependency.

If the commitment to strategic autonomy were concrete we would have atleast 3 versions of tejas with different engines so that there is redundancy, or just run with AL31FP based planes

"Russian engine MBTO === kachra, West engine is best" may be true from a technical perspective but it is only a fig-leaf to install such a dependency.

Lets hope they have enough stock of consoomable spares used for GE F404/F414 atleast we will be able to bang pakis for some time that way till whatever embargo puts a hard stop to it.
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Tejas are designed to adopt India made engines later in their lifecycle. GE engines are stopgap. Also, We can always stockpile a dozen spare engines. Just in case.
I will not be worried about it too much.
 
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