Operation Sindoor & Aftermath (71 Viewers)

You are extremely optimistic saar.

Conventional response will happen but it will be deadly and damaging for such an escalation

Not unrealistic given how we went all apeshit crazy after Pakistan **tried** to launch a BM towards Delhi (it didn't even reach).

It was Pakistan's moment of "Oh shit I fucked up".
 
Trump is spilling the beans for Pakistanis. Total 5 PAF jets were shot down on 8th night (S400) and thereafter again on failed Op Baniyan on 10th May (S400, MRSAM).
Did they shoot any in J&K tho? Far far too many journos were convinced. Heck, even barkha dutt claimed that a PAF jet was shot down in J&K.

Or was it typical Indian media style entertainment bonanza?

I’ve seen a clear video on Twitter showing the wreckage of a JF-17 and a Mirage-5. The wreckage has been analyzed by a YouTuber, and I can share it here.

Do share.
 
Not unrealistic given how we went all apeshit crazy after Pakistan **tried** to launch a BM towards Delhi (it didn't even reach).

It was Pakistan's moment of "Oh shit I fucked up".
I saw a video of a Fateh missile launch where the Pakistani crew panicked after the second missile was fired. They rushed toward the launcher in a panic, trying to stop it from launching a third missile.
 
This bhosdapilling is getting ridiculous now.

We have owned up our casualties - you need a quick Google search to find the official statements.

It's more 5th gen info warfare from the slums of Karachi rather than bhosdapilling

Then with secular endians, pindi pakis and domestic pakis I cannot make out any difference in what they post, it's all sem2sem

Not unrealistic given how we went all apeshit crazy after Pakistan **tried** to launch a BM towards Delhi (it didn't even reach).

It was Pakistan's moment of "Oh shit I fucked up".

So this is the brahmos strikes on Paapistan?
Very good, any escalation from their end should be given a 10x response just like this.
 
Did they shoot any in J&K tho? Far far too many journos were convinced. Heck, even barkha dutt claimed that a PAF jet was shot down in J&K.

Or was it typical Indian media style entertainment bonanza?
I’ve seen a clear video on Twitter showing the wreckage of a JF-17 and a Mirage-5. The wreckage has been analyzed by a YouTuber, and I can share it here.
 
Did they shoot any in J&K tho? Far far too many journos were convinced. Heck, even barkha dutt claimed that a PAF jet was shot down in J&K.

Or was it typical Indian media style entertainment bonanza?
PAF would not dare enter Indian airspace . So chances of that is close to zero .

However I am sure they lost jets in their own air and definetly they lost assets on the ground. A SAAB AWEC was blown up in the hangar just before the ceasefire.
 
Did they shoot any in J&K tho? Far far too many journos were convinced. Heck, even barkha dutt claimed that a PAF jet was shot down in J&K.

One egressing jet over J&K during Op Baniyaan wreckage fell in PoK. GoC 15 Corps confirmed to journalists but statement retracted when wreckage couldn't be recovered.
 
I think we should get away from the mentality of "proving" our intentions, stances and military actions. Whom we are trying to convince have already decided to take a preferred side regardless of what we do.

> Hit Hard
> Explain but don't try to convince
> Ignore critics
> Repeat

yup, this is basically what jai shankar said in a PC two weeks back from washington DC.


View: https://youtu.be/OgGukPh1a58
 
One egressing jet over J&K during Op Baniyaan wreckage fell in PoK. GoC 15 Corps confirmed to journalists but statement retracted when wreckage couldn't be recovered.

Interesting!

Have come across videos depicting two ejected PAF pilots. The locals even launched a search party (they mistook them for IAF pilots).
 
One egressing jet over J&K during Op Baniyaan wreckage fell in PoK. GoC 15 Corps confirmed to journalists but statement retracted when wreckage couldn't be recovered.

Interesting!

Have come across videos depicting two ejected PAF pilots. The locals even launched a search party (they mistook them for IAF pilots).

This is the same thing right? Shiv Aroor and MSM were reporting that F16 or some other PAF fighter has been shot down and suddenly tweets about this got deleted, Shiv himself was then saying it's fake nyooz :bplease:
 
That is obvious saar, as for "when" nobody knows

That account while posting unsourced jhumlas like this is just engagement farming.
May not be true in all likelihood.

Yea eventually it's guaranteed but I meant very soon (again assuming that he was actually accurate and reliable)
 
Also I can add more details. Take it or doubt it, I am not going to explain or debate.
  • No IAF jet from original strike package was downed or damaged.

  • PAF launched counter-attack to down every flying IAF jet within our airspace ~2 hours after our strike on terror target completed.

  • Strategy : Launch PL-15 outside NEZ (150+ km), none connected or even got radar lock. To escape BVR missiles own jets dived towards ground (common tactic), that's when hidden HQ-9s stationed very close to LoC (at Shakargarh bulge, Sialkot) switched on their radars and fired at our jets, leading to our losses. S400s fired back at PAF jets leading to their losses.

  • 3x HQ-9/HQ-16s discovered after this were targetted by own loitering munitions next morning. IAF starts full-scale SEAD, leading to multiple AD losses of PA/PAF. PAF AD assets moved back immediately after this.

  • PAF launches Op Baniyaan. Entire available PAF inventory to get activated and launch suicidal strikes at IAF airbases and ADs. Pakistani drones failed to inflict any damage to IAF ADs.

  • Strategy : Same, J-10/F-16s are BARCAP, JF-17s / Mirage 3/5s to ingress as close as possible and launch payload and then escape. ELINT & EW to supress IAF ADs.

    Strategy fails, PAF EW gets shot down by S400 even before reaching close. PAF AEW&C go cold to escape S400 radar lock, leaving attack party blind and at mercy of IAF ADs. Attack still continues nonetheless, IAF CAPs hold off PAF jets from ingressing, ADs go for the kill. PAF ingressing party scatters and returns back.

  • IAF starts own counter-attack, Su-30MKI with BrahMos, Rafale with Scalp, Jaguar with Rampage strike PAF facilities. PAF C&C destroyed, nuclear bunkers taken out, hangars & facilities damaged.

    PAF's operational capability severely degraded due to ineffective AEW&C, damaged runways, facilities and loss of morale.

  • IAF round 2 cancelled due to ceasefire agreements. Possible targets were further critical military infra like factories and BRDs.
 
Had to google what this was

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When we go in a definitive war against these pakis, all such "bulges" and "daggers" must be annexed and held come what may

Shakargarh Bulge and another similar "feature" called the Akhnoor Dagger are both critical pieces of territory that jut into India and have caused issues in previous wars. Both need to be permanently smoothed out.
 

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