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I think it was @Corvus Splendens IIRC who speculated on DFI that these Strykers the IA is looking to procure were for a specific role in limited numbers & not for your regular IFV or APC roles .

That role was speculated to be either C&C or armed with 4-8 ATGMs or SAM for drones / hptrs etc. It was either one of these or a couple if not all 3. I remember asking him if we couldn't adapt the WhAP for such a role. I don't remember the answer.

Seems sensible but "sensible" is not what these malai-khors do so i doubt this.

Shilling for Stryker seems to be a JV between the Chandigarh Lobby jernails and US with two fang objectives of smothering WhAp in the crib and obtaining Jaziya from the GoI for Sultan Amreeka.

Imagine in the future GoI having to do mujra in front of whoever is Justinder's successor just to get some of them Made in Kaneda only spare parts or sub systems :creepy:
 
I think it was @Corvus Splendens IIRC who speculated on DFI that these Strykers the IA is looking to procure were for a specific role in limited numbers & not for your regular IFV or APC roles .

That role was speculated to be either C&C or armed with 4-8 ATGMs or SAM for drones / hptrs etc. It was either one of these or a couple if not all 3. I remember asking him if we couldn't adapt the WhAP for such a role. I don't remember the answer.
A1 IM-SHORADs. Talks for this variant started again around 2022 because the WhAP's development didn't leave room for the standard Stryker APCs to be accommodated. IA itself went on a spiral post-covid, re-reviewing the need for wheeled APCs over tracked. But the FICV couldn't be fast-tracked, and it's basis in the Zorawar's chassis only saw trials this year after the power-pack drama. The Americans recently formally accepted the A1 variants by giving them a new designation "Sgt. Stout" and ordered around 150 of these.
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The initial configuration includes a modified M299 launcher for two Longbow Hellfire missiles, a Raytheon Stinger Vehicle Universal Launcher (SVUL) to hold four surface-to-air missiles, Northrop Grumman’s XM914 30 mm Bushmaster Chain Gun, and an M240 7.62 mm machine gun. It has a IFF antenna, an L3Harris WESCAM’s MX-GCS electro-optical/infrared (EO/IR) sight for 360° surveillance as well as target identification and detection capabilities and electronic warfare (EW) package to provide improved situational awareness. The IM-SHORAD is also equipped with hemispheric radar (MHR) designed and manufactured by the Israeli company Rada Electronic Industries. The vehicle is equipped with four MHR radars in order to ensure continuous surveillance, short-halt execution, and on-the-move operation. Part an upgrade plan includes adding in a FIM-92 Stinger replacement — dubbed the Next Generation Short Range Interceptor — that is currently in competition. Separately, the US Army is pursuing other M-SHORAD initiatives that will not carry the Sergeant Stout name. Those include a Stryker-mounted 50-kilowatt laser prototype and a recently released RFI for M-SHORAD “increment 4” capabilities that could be potentially integrated onto Joint Light Tactical Vehicles, or robots like the Small Multipurpose Equipment Transport.
 
A1 IM-SHORADs. Talks for this variant started again around 2022 because the WhAP's development didn't leave room for the standard Stryker APCs to be accommodated. IA itself went on a spiral post-covid, re-reviewing the need for wheeled APCs over tracked. But the FICV couldn't be fast-tracked, and it's basis in the Zorawar's chassis only saw trials this year after the power-pack drama. The Americans recently formally accepted the A1 variants by giving them a new designation "Sgt. Stout" and ordered around 150 of these.
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Thanks for responding.

And assuming the WhAP isn't adapted for this role how long do you anticipate it would take or alternatively modifications on the Zorawar on the lines of a Sgt Stout since that's what you've named as the most suitable alternative for the role you've described above ?
 
Thanks for responding.

And assuming the WhAP isn't adapted for this role how long do you anticipate it would take or alternatively modifications on the Zorawar on the lines of a Sgt Stout since that's what you've named as the most suitable alternative for the role you've described above ?
If someone really cares then a week or two. We already have fully stabilized all-electric drive system on multiple platforms, 2A42 gun assembly is locally produced, VSHORADS is now sufficiently mature, multiple local firms now produce good EO systems and miniature AESA radars can be imported from Israel as we already use one on modernized Shilkas.

If no one cares then here on this same thread your son might ask this exact same question to Corvus's son.
Or may be by that time Defence Forum Bharat too goes bankrupt and that communication takes place on Defence Forum Aryavart.
Who knows

:hmm:
 
Thanks for responding.

And assuming the WhAP isn't adapted for this role how long do you anticipate it would take or alternatively modifications on the Zorawar on the lines of a Sgt Stout since that's what you've named as the most suitable alternative for the role you've described above ?
If we really wanted the same config on the WhAP with purely indigenous solutions, CVRDE with backing from BEL could trial a prototype before this financial year ends. We won't do that simply because the people in charge of these acquisitions have the same level of initiative as your mall shopper. It's the Indian MIC that'll have to spend time, money and effort to put this config together, and then present it to the window shoppers in charge. As the post above points out, we have everything from autocannons, ATGMs, SHORAD missiles, 7.62 coax, to IFF antennas, EO pods, compact jammers and dazzlers, the tech for mini radars, datalinks, BMS, fire control computers, everything. We can even go the zorawar route and find an OEM remote turret to stick all of this stuff on. Will we ?
 
If someone really cares then a week or two. We already have fully stabilized all-electric drive system on multiple platforms, 2A42 gun assembly is locally produced, VSHORADS is now sufficiently mature, multiple local firms now produce good EO systems and miniature AESA radars can be imported from Israel as we already use one on modernized Shilkas.
Exactly we have all the things we need to make sgt stout equivalent. Tata & Mahindra need to work in that direction. A turret needs to designed & developed.
We have all the components we need, atgms, tripod based manpads a gun needs to be made indigenously. Depending upon calibr they need.
Eo are there, we can many minituarised aesa's too.

So now I can see full picture javelin licensed produces drama along with this striker they are all connected ig.
Look how bigot they are they aren't even ordering namicas. Nor initiating any indigeneous initiative.
 
Exactly we have all the things we need to make sgt stout equivalent. Tata & Mahindra need to work in that direction. A turret needs to designed & developed.
We have all the components we need, atgms, tripod based manpads a gun needs to be made indigenously. Depending upon calibr they need.
Eo are there, we can many minituarised aesa's too.

So now I can see full picture javelin licensed produces drama along with this striker they are all connected ig.
Look how bigot they are they aren't even ordering namicas. Nor initiating any indigeneous initiative.

Back in the day they killed both the Canadian and Israeli domestic fighter jet programs by being #PhoolSapport supplier of the F16 and other F-your-domestic-industry fighters.

Speaking of F16 i think our beloved Tejas is next
 
Back in the day they killed both the Canadian and Israeli domestic fighter jet programs by being #PhoolSapport supplier of the F16 and other F-your-domestic-industry fighters.

Speaking of F16 i think our beloved Tejas is next
We'll fly Tejas with RD-33MK if we have to. It'll set us back a few years, effectively delay the Mk2 Tejas till Kaveri or a derivative (or even a souped up M-88) is sorted out, but we will do whatever it takes. If this is what it takes for GoI to wake up and stop trying to create indigenous MIC for cheap, so be it.
 
We'll fly Tejas with RD-33MK if we have to. It'll set us back a few years, effectively delay the Mk2 Tejas till Kaveri or a derivative (or even a souped up M-88) is sorted out, but we will do whatever it takes. If this is what it takes for GoI to wake up and stop trying to create indigenous MIC for cheap, so be it.

Hopefully what you're saying is true.

Btw the WhAP runs on an American made Cummins engine.
So they still have leverage on us, but they want to go the extra mile to not even have the rest of the IFV, even there we have to buy the obsolete junk that the bastards themselves don't want.
 
Hopefully what you're saying is true.

Btw the WhAP runs on an American made Cummins engine.
So they still have leverage on us, but they want to go the extra mile to not even have the rest of the IFV, even there we have to buy the obsolete junk that the bastards themselves don't want.
They have fuckall leverage. CVRDE and Ashok Leyland JV produced a Turbocharged 600hp multifuel V8. In trials.
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Hopefully what you're saying is true.

Btw the WhAP runs on an American made Cummins engine.
So they still have leverage on us, but they want to go the extra mile to not even have the rest of the IFV, even there we have to buy the obsolete junk that the bastards themselves don't want.
That Cummins engine is made in India including the one powering the Zorawar tank.
 
several challenges on Disruptive, Emerging, Enabling and Pioneering Technologies (Deep-Tech) were also launched to drive major advancements in areas critical to the country’s defence infrastructure.

The challenges are:

🔴Compact Electromechanical Actuators

🔴Development of indigenous thrusters for Yard Craft (Indian Navy)

🔴Development of High Purity Silicon Carbide source powder for the bulk growth of SiC single crystal

🔴Deep-Tech for HPM Counter Measures and Protection

🔴Development of a Digital Twin Framework for Aero Gas Turbine Engine Health & Usage Monitoring.

View: https://x.com/Defencematrix1/status/1847270627562107159?t=VHCeKxoUobRXf7oQ6P9JEA&s=19
 
several challenges on Disruptive, Emerging, Enabling and Pioneering Technologies (Deep-Tech) were also launched to drive major advancements in areas critical to the country’s defence infrastructure.

The challenges are:

🔴Compact Electromechanical Actuators

🔴Development of indigenous thrusters for Yard Craft (Indian Navy)

🔴Development of High Purity Silicon Carbide source powder for the bulk growth of SiC single crystal

🔴Deep-Tech for HPM Counter Measures and Protection

🔴Development of a Digital Twin Framework for Aero Gas Turbine Engine Health & Usage Monitoring.

View: https://x.com/Defencematrix1/status/1847270627562107159?t=VHCeKxoUobRXf7oQ6P9JEA&s=19

So we are slowly building the building blocks. I hope they gonna go ahead with the Kaveri or 110Kn Engine.
 

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