DRDO and PSUs

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It can last as long as you want if you can cool it as long as you can/want.


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The things scramjets requires is alot of cooling unlike scramjets the temperature isn't as high as in ramjet combustors. That's why Ramjet systems like Meteor & Solid fuel ducted ramjet use solid fuel which produces fuel rich gas. Another thing this above mentioned solid fueled ramjets systems don't fly that fast either there sole purpose is efficient cruise (2.5-3.5mach)while saving energy for end phase of air to air interception.

In order to tackle high temperatures our indigeneous scramjet has (active cooling)regenerative transpiration cooling it has internal channel linning combustors through which endothermic fuel is circulated which absorbs the heat and turns into vapour which is more efficient to burn than a liquid fuel.

In scramjets Metalurgy is not the only concern but endothermic fuel for cooling, regenerative transpiration cooling of combuster along with additive manufacturing for creating those channel in which endothermic fuel can be used as coolant, flame holder etc

One of the problem in scramjet is that the fuel has to burn very fast because of the fast stream the fuel best suitable for this application is small carbon chain hydrocarbons like ethane/ethyne.

Delayed ignition would make a very inefficient scramjet. Usual kerosene jp fuel aren't ideal for this application that's why even in Ramjet like brahmos hydrogen induced fuel is used which increases efficiency by 3% but efficiency is not the reason.
Hydrogen burns fastest among all it increases the burn rate of fuel which results in faster and efficient ignition inside Ramjet combustion chamber. it has very high specific impulse as well.

This same problems gets steroids in scramjet. Here hydrogen induced jp fuel can't be used either as most of it wouldn't burn inside chambers due to fast stream so most preferred in this use case is hydrogen it isn't handy another one is ethane & ethene but then this fuel can't be used as endothermic coolant. As we all know endothermic means heat is absorbed from surrounding in order to carry out change (chemical or physical)
One of the biggest challenge in scramjets is to manage those high temperatures.
A endothermic fuel should be such that it absorbs as much temperature as possible ethane isn't the one. But jp fuel does the job here. The straight carbon chain are preferred as they require more heat to break down absorbing more heat compared to branches chains.

Once combustion is initiated the endothermic fuel runs through internal channels absorbing heat and breaking down into the desired products which is then sent into combustors to burn.
Endothermic fuel is just isn't sending jp fuel through cooling channels but rather carrying out reaction such that only desired products are formed which could be ethane ethyne propane which are the most desired for scramjet.
This requires proper catalysts along with it the endothermic capacity of fuel can be increased used by adding water as you can see in the image.
This results in formation of free hydrogen & CO2 as I said earlier hydrogen has fastest burn rate among all which would again increase the burn rate of fuel
And most important more heat can be managed as H2O would require,absorb higher heat in order to breakdown into H2 + CO2. This solution es fundamental issues with scramjets.
Also as I said vapourised fuel burn much efficiently.
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Most likely DRDO would prefer jp+H2O fuel as it gives very high specific impulse & high heat absorption.
The recent test was to verify this active cooling system.
Remember the first test only lasted 22-23 seconds it was to verify the combustion chamber,flame holder basic stuff.
It lacked cooling channels.
While the recent tests successfully verified this regenerative transpiration cooling & endothermic fuel. Which lasted 120 seconds. this one should have had those internal cooling channels.

Can't believe we have came so far.
 
Russians had that wunderwuffe called Zircon right? Where is it? Not a single photo of Intake, nor any evidence being used in Ukraine as being Scramjet unless its never is a Scramjet but your regular Shaurya Missile equivalent- Rocket Powered Missile being zoomed to Hypersonic.

I think Brahmos-2 isn't gonna happen because there is no such thing as Scramjet Hypersonic with Russkies, they have been fooling us all these time.
 
Russians had that wunderwuffe called Zircon right? Where is it? Not a single photo of Intake, nor any evidence being used in Ukraine as being Scramjet unless its never is a Scramjet but your regular Shaurya Missile equivalent- Rocket Powered Missile being zoomed to Hypersonic.

I think Brahmos-2 isn't gonna happen because there is no such thing as Scramjet Hypersonic with Russkies, they have been fooling us all these time.
They have but they can't afford to go that way it just isn't worth it for them. If similar capabilities can be gotten with rocket powered at much lower cost why would they opt for scramjet. It isn't like they can't. There economy is also much smaller for such projects/ procurement
 
Can anyone compare this test with what the Americans, changs and Russians have done in this scramjet engine technology
 
I don't think we are first- probably 3rd considering Americans and Chinese who may have had done that feat but never announced.
Japanese slanted too have it, their previous Prime minister had a photo with the missile. I can't find the pic now but almost looked similar to american one.
 
Can anyone describe the actual test .
Like... was the engine within a hypersonic wind tunnel.
or was the hypersonic wind flow simply into the engine intake.
I don't wanna take anything away from this great achievement but "active cooled " is simply using the fuel to cool the engine before it is combusted. This is exactly what is used to cool rocket engine nozzles.
There will be additional heat load if the scramjet rocket has to account for air frictio.n
 
Russians had that wunderwuffe called Zircon right? Where is it? Not a single photo of Intake, nor any evidence being used in Ukraine as being Scramjet unless its never is a Scramjet but your regular Shaurya Missile equivalent- Rocket Powered Missile being zoomed to Hypersonic.

I think Brahmos-2 isn't gonna happen because there is no such thing as Scramjet Hypersonic with Russkies, they have been fooling us all these time.
As I said again, from my russian sources, he agrees with zircon being rocket sustained and not being airbreathing( scramjet in this case).
It is in the same category as shaurua But it's better than shurya, significantly lighter ~4tons( while shaurya is 6+tons max, though if we remove the max warhead of 1ton, then Shurya will be ~5+ton) and 20-30% more range in HCM trajectory.

And right now, no country has scramjet powered hypersonic cruise missile in service, and with this test we are now leading the scramjet development.
( though US still tested a full on prototype in air, not a ground test, but the scramjet in air only ram 240 seconds)
 
They have but they can't afford to go that way it just isn't worth it for them. If similar capabilities can be gotten with rocket powered at much lower cost why would they opt for scramjet. It isn't like they can't. There economy is also much smaller for such projects/ procurement
Yup soviets had the most experience with ramjets and scramjets.
 
I don't think we are first- probably 3rd considering Americans and Chinese who may have had done that feat but never announced.
Na.
We're most likely the first.

China is not ahead of us in overall missile tech, though they have mostly caught up, and we're somewhere ahead in air to air missile/ surface to air missile, but we also caught up.
 
Can anyone compare this test with what the Americans, changs and Russians have done in this scramjet engine technology
China and russia no public knowledge about any tests if done.
Americans tested their x51 hcm prototype with 240 seconds of burn for scramjet in air.

We tested 1000+s burn on ground.
First country to do so.

Tho, longest burn in "air" still goes to burger land
 
Can anyone describe the actual test .
Like... was the engine within a hypersonic wind tunnel.
or was the hypersonic wind flow simply into the engine intake.
I don't wanna take anything away from this great achievement but "active cooled " is simply using the fuel to cool the engine before it is combusted. This is exactly what is used to cool rocket engine nozzles.
There will be additional heat load if the scramjet rocket has to account for air frictio.n
the hypersonic wind flow simply into the engine intake.

This is purely test of the engine.
And not missile.
 
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Allegedly flight paths of zircon.

Two charts

1, depressed trajectory.

In pure HCM trajectory range is~1000km.

In somewhat parabolic but still depressed max range is ~1500km

2, ballistic.

in ballistic +Maneuverable
Max range is 4000km.
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In ballistic halfway then depressed
Max range 2500-3000km.
 
Let me tell ya'all where we stand today france stands neck to neck. They have achieved similar features in 80s & 90s however duration of there scramjets in unavailable also since then what progress they have done isn't much available in public. And we always forget japan, they do have such tech. They also have brahmos like asm.

I would be making a detailed post covering all nations.
 

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