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[Patriots]

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[Aaj Ka Hero]

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[Azaad]

Will this be the equivalent of Zircon?

Zircon has a sustained speed of 5 Mach + and is designed for both land based and anti ship missions.
I wonder if our missle too can achieve these speeds throughout or only at the terminal phase.

Zircon is a Hypersonic Cruise Missile. This is a hypersonic Quasi Ballistic Missile.

 

[Aaj Ka Hero]

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Best channel

 

[silentassassin265]

Sorry for the question, but does this mean a scramjet engine was successfully tested for a long duration?

No

 

[Ayan Barat]

Enough of utter chaos going on this thread since morning...let me too contribute one last time in this

What have been tested is more or less just a ground launched, ER version of Rudram-III. PERIOD

• There's isn't any absolute contemporary to this that I can compare it to, just like SMART.
• The closest in terms of concept would be the Aster-15/30 but again, those are SAMs.
• The closest in terms of concept among Ballistic Missiles would be Rudram-III
• Neither an air-breathing thing like HSTDV
• Nor a glide vehicle as we all had earlier assumed from that single cutaway pic. (Side note; whoever made that model/cutaway should be tried for treason)
• Just a simple Rudram-III like set-up where you've a booster that separate after initial launch and then the missile continues with its own motor
• Wings are minimalistic and helps more in countering roll/pitch/yaw than generating lift; like Rudram-III
• Follows pretty much the same quasi-ballistic path followed by other contemporaries like Shaurya/LORA

• Only difference being more propellant compared to others in 2nd stage resulting in longer burn; more power to lose energy in maneuvering while evading defences and still having enough to regain speed.
• Saying it's hypersonic and doing the usual "Bharat ka hypersonic jawaab, Pakistan bola aap hi mere Baap" or "Hindustan ka naya Brahmastra, Modi ne kiya Xi ko parast" (daamn, I'm getting quite good at this) on TV/YouTube would glorify this too much; undermining the long way we still have to cover in this field.
Saying it's hypersonic is like saying a rifle round is supersonic or a torpedo is waterproof.

And some personal takes that's just pure yapping backed by my brainrot

* The warhead looks like the one from BrahMos based on the dimensions
* The second stage looks like Shaurya; but shorter though
* It'll be tough firing it from a ship, as claimed earlier given it's size and thrust
* Deploying just three batteries in Gujarat, Kerala and Andaman would effectively solve most of the naval "defence" issue

 

[vampyrbladez]

LRASHM most likely uses a HGV.

View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1857845801256706128

 

[jaijaganath]

I got ur notion but there was a document with lrashm along hgv
That's the reason why many are believing hgv theory

Enough of utter chaos going on this thread since morning...let me too contribute one last time in this

What have been tested is more or less just a ground launched, ER version of Rudram-III. PERIOD
View attachment 15577
• There's isn't any absolute contemporary to this that I can compare it to, just like SMART.
• The closest in terms of concept would be the Aster-15/30 but again, those are SAMs.
• The closest in terms of concept among Ballistic Missiles would be Rudram-III
• Neither an air-breathing thing like HSTDV
• Nor a glide vehicle as we all had earlier assumed from that single cutaway pic. (Side note; whoever made that model/cutaway should be tried for treason)
• Just a simple Rudram-III like set-up where you've a booster that separate after initial launch and then the missile continues with its own motor
• Wings are minimalistic and helps more in countering roll/pitch/yaw than generating lift; like Rudram-III
• Follows pretty much the same quasi-ballistic path followed by other contemporaries like Shaurya/LORA
View attachment 15579
• Only difference being more propellant compared to others in 2nd stage resulting in longer burn; more power to lose energy in maneuvering while evading defences and still having enough to regain speed.
• Saying it's hypersonic and doing the usual "Bharat ka hypersonic jawaab, Pakistan bola aap hi mere Baap" or "Hindustan ka naya Brahmastra, Modi ne kiya Xi ko parast" (daamn, I'm getting quite good at this) on TV/YouTube would glorify this too much; undermining the long way we still have to cover in this field.
Saying it's hypersonic is like saying a rifle round is supersonic or a torpedo is waterproof.

And some personal takes that's just pure yapping backed by my brainrot

* The warhead looks like the one from BrahMos based on the dimensions
* The second stage looks like Shaurya; but shorter though
* It'll be tough firing it from a ship, as claimed earlier given it's size and thrust
* Deploying just three batteries in Gujarat, Kerala and Andaman would effectively solve most of the naval "defence" issue

 

[Ayan Barat]

I got ur notion but there was a document with lrashm along hgv
That's the reason why many are believing hgv theory

You can call it a HGV be if there's any kind of propulsion power in that thing then terminologically if can't be a glide vehicle. The whole idea of a glide vehicle is to change trajectory without using any propulsion.

The only way it can even remotely be a HGV is if in the endgame phase the second stage booster too separates from the warhead and the warhead continues like this

 

[Azaad]

You can call it a HGV be if there's any kind of propulsion power in that thing then terminologically if can't be a glide vehicle. The whole idea of a glide vehicle is to change trajectory without using any propulsion.

The only way it can even remotely be a HGV is if in the endgame phase the second stage booster too separates from the warhead and the warhead continues like this
View attachment 15588

Can a Glide Vehicle actually be used against a small target like a ship ? How does one ensure precision targeting in spite of sensors?

 

[randombully]

You can call it a HGV be if there's any kind of propulsion power in that thing then terminologically if can't be a glide vehicle. The whole idea of a glide vehicle is to change trajectory without using any propulsion.

The only way it can even remotely be a HGV is if in the endgame phase the second stage booster too separates from the warhead and the warhead continues like this
View attachment 15588

This system is more similar to american AHW( advanced hypersonic weapon) glide system

Advanced Hypersonic Weapon (AHW) - Army Technology

The Advanced Hypersonic Weapon (AHW) is a demonstrative long-range glide vehicle capable of flying within the planet's atmosphere at hypersonic speed.

www.army-technology.com

Here's What The Army's First Ever Operational Hypersonic Missile Unit Will Look Like

The service plans to use the unit mostly for testing and evaluation, but it will be ready for combat within the next four years, if necessary.

www.twz.com

( in the link Americans refer to it as a glide vehicle)
Than the more conventional looking glide vehicles of russia/china/NK.
Advantage of AHW glide vehicle is that it's more fast( ours achieved Mach 9, while conventional ones will only achieve Mach 6-7 from the same alititude) and more precise than conventional ones.
Advantage of conventional ones is that they can glide much batter to a more longer distance, china's dfzf has a range of 3000+km's while ours is 1500+km.
So which system is used depends on the need.
We considered speed and precision of striking a ship more important against longer range.
You can also achieve high precision with conventional glide vehicle by adding miniature boosters on its side to better control it but that would require the hgv to be made much bigger, more complicated and more expensive.
Second conventional ones can also achieve very high speeds( like Russian avangard) but you will need an even higher altitude to launch it but it's precision and accuracy will suffer, that's why russia uses its avangard in a nuclear role and not in a anti ship role.

 

[ArjunMK1A]

Hope LRSHAM will follow socialism and secularism when targeting the enemies.

 

[randombully]

You

Enough of utter chaos going on this thread since morning...let me too contribute one last time in this

What have been tested is more or less just a ground launched, ER version of Rudram-III. PERIOD
View attachment 15577
• There's isn't any absolute contemporary to this that I can compare it to, just like SMART.
• The closest in terms of concept would be the Aster-15/30 but again, those are SAMs.
• The closest in terms of concept among Ballistic Missiles would be Rudram-III
• Neither an air-breathing thing like HSTDV
• Nor a glide vehicle as we all had earlier assumed from that single cutaway pic. (Side note; whoever made that model/cutaway should be tried for treason)
• Just a simple Rudram-III like set-up where you've a booster that separate after initial launch and then the missile continues with its own motor
• Wings are minimalistic and helps more in countering roll/pitch/yaw than generating lift; like Rudram-III
• Follows pretty much the same quasi-ballistic path followed by other contemporaries like Shaurya/LORA
View attachment 15579
• Only difference being more propellant compared to others in 2nd stage resulting in longer burn; more power to lose energy in maneuvering while evading defences and still having enough to regain speed.
• Saying it's hypersonic and doing the usual "Bharat ka hypersonic jawaab, Pakistan bola aap hi mere Baap" or "Hindustan ka naya Brahmastra, Modi ne kiya Xi ko parast" (daamn, I'm getting quite good at this) on TV/YouTube would glorify this too much; undermining the long way we still have to cover in this field.
Saying it's hypersonic is like saying a rifle round is supersonic or a torpedo is waterproof.

And some personal takes that's just pure yapping backed by my brainrot

* The warhead looks like the one from BrahMos based on the dimensions
* The second stage looks like Shaurya; but shorter though
* It'll be tough firing it from a ship, as claimed earlier given it's size and thrust
* Deploying just three batteries in Gujarat, Kerala and Andaman would effectively solve most of the naval "defence" issue

Your assumption is wrong, read my previous comment.
This missile achieved Mach 9 top speed, while Rudram 3 will be at most Mach 5-6.
Second those minimalistic wings are to generate lift, at the speed it will travel you do not need large wings or flat surfaces to generate lift and make it glide, though it still can't glide as far away as a conventional looking hgv that china/nk uses.
It is a glide vehicle but one that sacrifies lots if it's glide potential for increased speed and accuracy.
USA is developing a similar concept.

 

[shade2]

American RW Xtians are absolute subhumans. Explains why all mass-evangelism of pagan tribals in India and elsewhere comes from their NGOs and why they love hitler so much. Offtopic though.

America and most wh*te countries are more godless and degenerate than any pagan religion past or present can ever hope to be

 

[shade2]

So finally this was the LRASHM that was rumored to be test-fired a week back, also the NOTAM was for this i think

We have seen atleast ~3 missile firings the past week right?

 

[Ayan Barat]

Can a Glide Vehicle actually be used against a small target like a ship ? How does one ensure precision targeting in spite of sensors

Yup; one of most precise weapons to be ever developed by mankind are the KKVs on Anti-Ballistic Missile; second only to sniper rifles. After seperation they lose the forward thrust pretty quickly and simply drift toward the interception point. And for guidance use micro thrusters (or whats technically called a DACS) and even with those achieve God level of precision. The enemy warhead moving kilometres per second, this KV too moving at comparable speed and still manages to engage a target at small as one metre square.

And here we're talking about big ahh warships. Moreover it's not like a ballistic missile that if you miss all hell will break loose...even a near miss by 10m would result in pretty much a mission kill for the warship.

This system is more similar to american AHW( advanced hypersonic weapon) glide system

No, absolutely not.
And to answer why and also to address future debates I'm giving a dimensionless number; Ayan's Ratio. Use this to determine what kind of things it's.

In the last separating thing; be it HGV or MIRV or MaRV or whatever this LRAShM is find two things; the weight of the warhead and the weight of the propellant it carries. No divide the propellant by warhead; if less an 1 then glide vehicle and if more than 1 then a powered missile.

You

Wo sab to thik hai, par ye dara kis ko raha hai be

Your assumption is wrong, read my previous comment.
This missile achieved Mach 9 top speed, while Rudram 3 will be at most Mach 5-6.

And your assumption is wrong because you seem to miss the point of me drawing parallel between Rudram-III and this based on the fact that both have quasi ballistic trajectory, both uses separating 1st stage, have minimal wings
It had nothing to do with velocity

Also that Mach 9 would most probably be the re-entry velocity which would decrease from that point as more and more maneuvers are made.

Second those minimalistic wings are to generate lift, at the speed it will travel you do not need large wings or flat surfaces to generate lift and make it glide, though it still can't glide as far away as a conventional looking hgv that china/nk uses.

True, totally agreeing with that fact that even with minimal wing you can generate sufficient lift using the speed.

But now I'd ask you do help me in one thing. Take the exact shape of this re-entry vehicle of LR-AShM with its nose cone, long cylindrical body of uniform cross section and small wings...and tell me, will there be any flow separation past the ogive of nose cone?
And if yes, then would sufficient amount of air even reach the wings let alone generating lift.

 

[Fatalis]

Looks like it is going to a family of different systems including the land attack and anti ship versions.

Other projects under development:

ET-LDHCM is Project Vishnu a scramjet engine powered hypersonic cruise missile.

Project Dhwani is an unpowered Hypersonic Glide Weapon which will be mounted most probably on a ICBM.

 

[Ayan Barat]

Looks like it is going to a family of different systems including the land attack and anti ship versions.

Other projects under development:

ET-LDHCM is Project Vishnu a scramjet engine powered hypersonic cruise missile.

Project Dhwani is an unpowered Hypersonic Glide Weapon which will be mounted most probably on a ICBM.

Spoiler: Sir!?

Spoiler: And she!!

Koi na, Kokila Ben ki beti se to achha hi hai

 

[Fatalis]

Looks like DRDO woke up and started celebrating Diwali.

Happy Diwali Folks