DRDO and PSU's

[Ayan Barat]

Shipunov built by OFB Medak with Yahoodi turret and electronics just the provided Bushmaster.

BushMaster being externally powered will have a slight advantage here on gas operated 2A42s in terms of things like accuracy, reliability, use in saline environment. Also BushMasters generally have a MRBF of more than 20,000 rounds.

 

[shade2]

Never knew this existed,

Anyhow did some googling about this

Taratala Unit - Official website of Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers Limited – A Government of India undertaking, Ministry of Defence

grse.in

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Did further googling on this "BHSEL, Hyderabad"

Blue Horizons Strategic Engineering Pvt Ltd | LinkedIn

Blue Horizons Strategic Engineering Pvt Ltd | 1,332 followers on LinkedIn. A Concrete Step Towards "Atmanirbhar Bharat" in Defence and Aerospace | BHSEL is a joint venture between Elbit Systems, Israel and Aditya Precitech Pvt Ltd, Hyderabad. We offer a wide range of operationally proven systems...

in.linkedin.com

Found the (((expected))) merchant

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"BHSEL is a joint venture between Elbit Systems, Israel and Aditya Precitech Pvt Ltd, Hyderabad."

Elbit has a 30mm naval gun RCWS but the only picture i can find similar to GRSE one is this

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So therefore these guys cannot just make anything by themselves, need to be ToT spoonfed everything


There is a .50 cal RCWS also used by the IN, and Elbit is the vendor for that too but in ToT form once again

And btw you would be right, considering this is made by ((( The Greatest Ally ))) of the US it is only natural for them to use the Bushmaster rather than the 30mm shipunov

Once again our guys couldn't even integrate the Shipunov built by OFB Medak with Yahoodi turret and electronics just the provided Bushmaster.


I have not taken the black pill
I am the blackpill now.

Even if they wanted to be spoonfed by the Jew, they could have done ToT of fancy Typhoon Weapon System also known as the Mk38 made by Rafael, it is "Proven" and in service with many navies




Instead of this Elbit gun for which they don't even have any actual pictures
Looks like even in Tee Oh Tee the L1 vendor is chosen

 

[Corvus Splendens]

but can't say whether the turret itself is indigenously designed or ToT-ed

GRSE looked at the Oto Melara Marlin-WS I see.

 

[Bleh]

Are there any examples of DPSU's improving on any weapons or systems they have received ToT for?
Or do they need to be spoon-fed everything?

For ex one of the OFBs makes the BMP-2 turret including the 30mm cannon domestically

As per @Ayan Barat in the Navy thread and as y'all can see they have made this "CRN-91" naval gun by just putting the BMP-2 turret in a can and painting it white, to fire you have to get inside the can and fire like you would for an actual BMP-2 turret

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Goras by comparison have such a system, this is Mk 38 by BAE Systems, It's RCWS with manual firing option

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This is the Aselsan STOP system by the Turkans

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Notice how sleek and purpose built these foreign systems are, while the CRN-91 is the most low-effort job imaginable.

Cost. Just like BMPs we can afford hundreds of this.

Is actually a good transformation of BMP-2 turret for patrol boats & so. No need to shit on everything Indian just because white people made a better looking unmanned one & we're using a repurposed gun turret.

I love it!

 

[AMCA MK1]

Cost

Is actually a good transformation of BMP-2 turret for patrol boats & so. No need to shit on everything Indian just because white people made a better looking unmanned one & we're using a repurposed gun turret.

Exactly that's a very cost effective jugad.
We also have a good looking Israeli origin system made by bel but of lower calibr.
They should learn from it and keep on progressing it.

 

[125mm_Smoothbore]

Cost. Just like BMPs we can afford hundreds of this.

Is actually a good transformation of BMP-2 turret for patrol boats & so. No need to shit on everything Indian just because white people made a better looking unmanned one & we're using a repurposed gun turret.

I love it!
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@Binayak95 sir do you have any comment on this navalised bmp-2 turret (i know you would be having many )

 

[RocketMan]

At this point I am blackpilled. Maybe we should seek help of Taliban to train in guerilla warfare to wear out much technologically superior army.

It's over. Bhimta Dehaati 82 IQ Republic will fall.

 

[jaijaganath]

It's over. Bhimta Dehaati 82 IQ Republic will fall.

As we are approaching towards the end of the year ewe must accept things aren't going well and it's ending at a bad note

Forget Chinese 6th gen aircraft or any of their achievements they worked hard and are reaping benefits

Let's keep delay of mk2 and amca aside
1) ge 404 supply issue has not been sorted yet
2)no major orders for indigenous artillery guns like atags and garuda despite completing all the trails
3)no integration of helina/dhruvastra with lch
4)no orders for lch and helina/dhruvastra
5)no significant orders for whap and sword of Stryker still hanging
6)no cohesive decision wrt depleting squadron
7)kaveri program is being pushed at snail's speed
8)no conclusion wrt lhd
9)no conclusion wrt p75i
10)import lobby still strong and flourishing

Truly blackpilled ending wrt indian defence development
And more importantly future doesn't seem bright either

If things don't improve then it's basically over

 

[shade2]

Cost. Just like BMPs we can afford hundreds of this.

Is actually a good transformation of BMP-2 turret for patrol boats & so. No need to shit on everything Indian just because white people made a better looking unmanned one & we're using a repurposed gun turret.

I love it!
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Exactly that's a very cost effective jugad.
We also have a good looking Israeli origin system made by bel but of lower calibr.
They should learn from it and keep on progressing it.

This gun came into service in 1995, since then they have been ok with this jugaad only.
Either this is a process issue where they won't move unless an order or "demand" is there for improvement.

In which case Admirals are ok with this thing? If it was a bit sleeker, it could be fit on deck for destroyers and all instead of .50 cal RCWS you currently see on Vishakhapatnam class for example.
US destroyers use Mk 38 25mm RCWS by comparison.

imo Govt needs to give DPSUs a R&D budget and permissions for improving on existing ToT platforms even if there isn't a demand from Armed Forces.

Otherwise for every other thing they run to get ToT and are dependent on foreign suppliers.

 

[Binayak95]

@Binayak95 sir do you have any comment on this navalised bmp-2 turret (i know you would be having many )

its a fucking nightmare mate

Just shitty tier jugaad that neither works nor is accurate when it works - you cannot take a turret designed to operate at land and handle the stresses and abuse there of and expect it to work seamlessly in warm water oceanic environments - especially on FACs and flat bottomed LSTs whose sea keeping qualities are anyway trash.

 

[Ayan Barat]

its a fucking nightmare mate

Just shitty tier jugaad that neither works nor is accurate when it works - you cannot take a turret designed to operate at land and handle the stresses and abuse there of and expect it to work seamlessly in warm water oceanic environments - especially on FACs and flat bottomed LSTs whose sea keeping qualities are anyway trash.

But what other modern 30mm naval turret let's you crawl inside, close the doors, sit on a cute little blue folding seat and blast away whatever is in line? Maybe even play some Punjabi rap on full volume inside

So not everything's bad

 

[125mm_Smoothbore]

But what other modern 30mm naval turret let's you crawl inside, close the doors, sit on a cute little blue folding seat and blast away whatever is in line? Maybe even play some Punjabi rap on full volume inside
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So not everything's bad

corrosion at sea is at another level so land equipment cant be used there directly without some upgrades
Yaw and pitch of ship also affects the accuracy heavily for an equipment developed for land

 

[Ayan Barat]

corrosion at sea is at another level so land equipment cant be used there directly without some upgrades
Yaw and pitch of ship also affects the accuracy heavily

It was a sarcasm Bhai

The biggest issue here is that in modern naval doctrine you want to have a Combat Management Centre or CMC from where every single thing on a ship can be remotely controlled; from sensors to effectors all fuses together in a single room. Not like the Cap is calling CRN-91 gunner on radio, "Aye Jaswinder, fire khol re!"

 

[AbRaj]

Exactly that's a very cost effective jugad.
We also have a good looking Israeli origin system made by bel but of lower calibr.
They should learn from it and keep on progressing it.

Should’ve put the whole BMP in place of this . Even more cost effective and multipurpose

 

[Blood+]

But what other modern 30mm naval turret let's you crawl inside, close the doors, sit on a cute little blue folding seat and blast away whatever is in line? Maybe even play some Punjabi rap on full volume inside
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So not everything's bad

Nah, you don't get it, fool!! It operates on tower defense logic. You kill enough enemies and the turret will gradually level up, eventually into a self aware super intelligent rapid fire magnetic accelerator cannon.

 

[Ayan Barat]

Nah, you don't get it, fool!! It operates on tower defense logic. You kill enough enemies and the turret will gradually level up, eventually into a self aware super intelligent rapid fire magnetic accelerator cannon.

...with my Man Jaswinder still inside it.

 

[Blood+]

...with my Man Jaswinder still inside it.

Well, duh, of course!! Somebody needs to keep the super intelligence company, or she'll get lonely in there.

 

[fire starter]

Year of dalali.

View: https://x.com/silver07shield/status/1874391878403277303?t=WJN1BmDwO7jK2db239H4iQ&s=19

It's over, dalals won at last.

View: https://x.com/wartrophy_414/status/1874398582981459996?t=o_He--k0L18J68u7WBL7Kg&s=19

 

[shade2]

Year of dalali.

View: https://x.com/silver07shield/status/1874391878403277303?t=WJN1BmDwO7jK2db239H4iQ&s=19

It's over, dalals won at last.

View: https://x.com/wartrophy_414/status/1874398582981459996?t=o_He--k0L18J68u7WBL7Kg&s=19

Bureaucratic procedure of reforms.
Cong may even do political mudslinging.

Not as much of a W for dalals as you're expecting.

 

[ArjunMK1A]

But what other modern 30mm naval turret let's you crawl inside, close the doors, sit on a cute little blue folding seat and blast away whatever is in line? Maybe even play some Punjabi rap on full volume inside
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I believe during 95 somehow OFB babus from Medak pushed their brain activity to absolute 100% and reached that Theta state to access the endless possibilities to come with that round base to shield the Sea Jawan sitting inside with his carrot enriched Telescopic eyes to fire against modern day missile like CJ-10.

Since it was in 90s with no Social Media. They failed to showcase the products to World properly.

But if it is done today.

#Atmanirbharta Bharat
#RakshaMantri Kadininja ji
#PMO
#IndianNavy
#StateofArtManufacturing
#IndigenousGun