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Ahem*
I'm 100% convinced that Zircon is a purely rocket powered missile.
Now in this case, let's "assume" that zircon is infact rocket powered.
Then what if we modify the shaurya missile with a much better TVC, a seeker for anti-ship role plus other modifications and make it fly in a more depressed trajectory like Zircon.

@Ayan Barat
@Bhartiya Sainik
 
randombully said:
Ahem*
I'm 100% convinced that Zircon is a purely rocket powered missile.
Now in this case, let's "assume" that zircon is infact rocket powered.
Then what if we modify the shaurya missile with a much better TVC, a seeker for anti-ship role plus other modifications and make it fly in a more depressed trajectory like Zircon.

@Ayan Barat
@Bhartiya Sainik
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• If you want a traditional ballistic missile, that's attains hypersonic speed during re-entry with limited maneuverability then you already have Agni-II and Agni-P
• If you want a quasi-ballistic missile that attains hypersonic speed in a much more depressed trajectory while having decent maneuverability then you already have the K-15 family; Sagarika/Shaurya/Pralay
• If you want to increase the maneuverability even more then you already have LR-AShM
• If you want a cruise missile that can do what cruise missiles typically do but at hypersonic speeds then we've already validated HSTDV to a great extent. Seeing the inaction of the OEMs regarding development of BrahMos-II, I'm pretty sure GoI would now focus more on this.
• As for seeker; almost all long range missiles from DRDO now have variants equipped with either ARH or IIR seeker.

So I guess instead of assuming and trying to replicate some vapourware it's better to let the guys at DRDO's missile department cook. They're wickedly good at cooking
 
randombully said:
Ahem*
I'm 100% convinced that Zircon is a purely rocket powered missile.
Now in this case, let's "assume" that zircon is infact rocket powered.
Then what if we modify the shaurya missile with a much better TVC, a seeker for anti-ship role plus other modifications and make it fly in a more depressed trajectory like Zircon.

@Ayan Barat
@Bhartiya Sainik
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🤔:confusedd: Feels like DejaVu. Didn't i answer this before few weeks back?

Bhartiya Sainik said:
Honestly, i have not done much homework on missiles technology, especially the hypersonic ones & thier terminal guidance.
AFAIK the BMs use INS (Inertial Nav. Sys.) by Ring Laser Gyroscope, some may use GPS also, some get mid-course updates also by satellite.

Zircon is SCRamjet powered Mach 8-9 S-SM(Surface to Surface Missile), can hit sea/land targets.
Kinzhal is rocket powered Mach 9-10 AGM(Air to Ground Missile), can hit land targets.
Pralay is rocket powered Mach-6 SRBM using INS.
Shaurya is rocket powered Mach 7-8 using INS.

The BVR-AAMs & CCMs can fly Mach 4-5 with their RF & EO seekers.
There are ARMs & ground attack versions like our Rudram-2 with speed Mach 5-6 which, apart from passive radar homing, can use INS+Satellite for midcourse & IR for terminal phases.

So my low IQ brain would say that Pralay/Shaurya can be modified or a new missile, to use midcourse updates + passive RF &/or IR terminal homing to hit Naval targets.
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Bhartiya Sainik said:
If you change the engine, it becomes a new missile or version.
Oniks/Yakhont is Ramjet powered, Zircon is SCRamjet powered, Kinzhal is rocket powered.
Brahmos-1 is Ramjet powered, Brahmos-2 will be SCRamjet powered.
IDK merits/demerits of rocket powered Vs SCRamjet.
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Bhartiya Sainik said:
This is the era of experimentation on weapons.
Koi missile ko topi(top cap) pehnata hai, koi juta(launching booster) pehnata hai, koi lungi(1st stage booster) pehanata hai :facepalm4: :facepalm2::LOL:
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Patriots said:


3 sams almost same performance

Qrsam for army
Akash ng for iaf
Vlsrsam for navy
Qrsam ready for induction bdl is waiting for order
Vlsrsam - in developmental trial
Akash ng - ready for user trial
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But are they the same platform on the inside?.. if not what's the point for so many different SAMs?
VL-SRSAM is basically Indian Astra. MR-SAM is Israeli Barak-8 desi derivative & Akash-NG is a mix of Rusi & desi developments. Our SAMs kinda confuse me 😅

@Ayan Barat or someone else can make a comparison of them like this plz?
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Oh BTW...
defence.in

DRDO's SFDR Propulsion System for Astra MkIII Missile Completes Ground-Based Testing, Awaits Complex Air-to-Air Flight Trials

India's Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has achieved a significant breakthrough in its development of the Astra MkIII Beyond Visual Range Air-to-Air Missile (BVRAAM). The Solid Fuel Ducted Ramjet (SFDR) propulsion system, designed to power the advanced missile, has...
defence.in defence.in
 
Patriots said:


3 sams almost same performance

Qrsam for army
Akash ng for iaf
Vlsrsam for navy
Qrsam ready for induction bdl is waiting for order
Vlsrsam - in developmental trial
Akash ng - ready for user trial
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QRSAM and VLSRSAM are Astra derivatives from the outside
Akash-NG looks like a Barak8/MRSAM derivative from the outside.

My question was if the Akash-NG is basically a clone in terms of range wagera, why aren't they replacing the expensive jewish missiles with it?

Perhaps there would be some issues to integrate it with MFSTAR?
 
Anonymous Bharata said:
Yoo, why haven't any one of you said that you were being paid by HAL, DRDO & other DPSUs?? I too want my share

View: https://x.com/mountain_rats/status/188350297634786

Where%20are%20our%20e-lashkars%20when%20you%20need%20them?
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let them have a filed day, let them have their mental orgasm and when real conflict arise lets see what will these entitled brats do
 
fire starter said:
UN generals have gone insane these days.

Good thing is they are getting whacked left & right, they deserve public humiliation.

View: https://x.com/KSingh_1469/status/1878505696435609718?t=ujKfSBwzk1gLwrAQO7bE8Q&s=19

View: https://x.com/KSingh_1469/status/1878514547188764922?t=q3YdAEW-nvdhcP_2l0LtYQ&s=19
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Don't stop shaming them. In fact all of the angst that folks have for dehatis... train dehatis to shame generals. They will learn quick. Lol. Also I like the dehati people, my dadi and family are mostly from Purvanchal. Lol.
 
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