DRDO and PSU's

[Ayan Barat]

They are currently doing basic R&D. It is too early to answer application related questions.

Have they talked of deploying on a specific product, say a missile or a plane, that would require raising such queries?

These queries are not related to "DRDO doing plasma stealth research", rather these are the queries related to just the "concept of plasma stealth" that are being asked since the day people got to know about this concept. USA has retired one stealth plane, about to retire one and at least five are in active service, China has at least four and Russia, the country from where this concept came has one but still, we see no application of this concept. So, there must be some reason why this concept has not been used beyond some research papers.

There are numerous such concepts in defence and aerospace that looks groundbreaking on a paper, but their real-world application feels almost impossible. Take the example of caseless ammunition, there's decades of work on them and still we see no widespread adoption.

And how exactly its application in missile instead of a plane is going to negate any of the queries raised by Anant or me?
The only application it may have is perhaps in decoys.

 

[Bleh]

Intermediate Jet Trainer (IJT) "Sitara" Neo Avionics Upgrade to be showcased during #AeroIndia2025
https://x.com/hashtag/AeroIndia2025?src=hashtag_click

 

[ArjunMK1A]

Intermediate Jet Trainer (IJT) "Sitara" Neo Avionics Upgrade to be showcased during #AeroIndia2025
https://x.com/hashtag/AeroIndia2025?src=hashtag_click
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Well Well Well.

We DFBians.

We want IJT to be inducted in IAF for providing trainer support. Where is it?

HAL Overlords

At max we can do is another CGI render of IJT in Tricolor. We don't conform anything on testing.

 

[randombully]

They are currently doing basic R&D. It is too early to answer application related questions.

Have they talked of deploying on a specific product, say a missile or a plane, that would require raising such queries?

The common belief is those hypersonic missile actually undergoes deceleration at the beginning of their terminal phase and they decelerate till they come down to higher supersonic( mach 3-4.5) from hypersonic, after that their seeker starts to look for the target.
Also it's easily possible to get midcourse update data if frequency is strong enough even at hypersonic speeds.

As for the stealth effect of plasma, generic stealth shaping and materials are just vastly superior to plasma in stealth.
For example If cover a stealthy plane let's say f22/f35 in plasma from front, you are actually making it's stealth much much worse.
The only place where plasma stealth was practically applied was in radars( when radars were off) of russian fighter jets.
Because radars along with being good emitter are very good reflectors too.

 

[Bleh]

Well Well Well.

We DFBians.

We want IJT to be inducted in IAF for providing trainer support. Where is it?

HAL Overlords

At max we can do is another CGI render of IJT in Tricolor. We don't conform anything on testing.

Construction outline 2028 bola hy

 

[AGNI 6 ICBM]

LR-ASHM 🕉

1.Booster gives very high altitude to "KV"...
2.Glide phase with high AOA "To create & ride on hypersonic shock wave"
3.Glide phase with Medium AOA "To do pull up manuvers(increasing range)"
4.High Supersonic cruise phase with left fuel
5.Terminal manuver to hit target at Mach ~2


Natural deceleration from "hypersonic to high supersonic & then supersonic" so that accuracy increases...

After gliding for ~1,200 Km in hypersonic speeds it mimics brahmos/cruise missile like trajectory and cruises for ~800 Km in high supersonic speeds and does speed decreasing manuvers to achieve Mach 2 to hit target accurately....




In short it's flight profile :

Ballistic phase -> Wave riding phase -> Hypersonic glide phase -> Hypersonic cruise -> High supersonic cruise -> Low supersonic cruise -> Attack target




IMO These controll surfaces are for doing maneuvers to achieve high AOA and terminal braking ...




FYI DRDO ground launched hypersonic cruise missile will do Hypersonic gliding initially and then starts it's scramjet engine....


DRDO Air launched hypersonic cruise missile will have Dual Combuster ramjet engine which is capable of operating from Mach 3 in ramjet mode and Mach ~6.5 in Scramjet mode....


They choose dual combuster ramjet in air launched HCM Bcoz we don't have powerful aircraft to carry & launch pure scramjet engine HCM "heavy weight"

 

[shade2]

While Training with FPV with Drones is good, I worry and wonder have we secured Drone Components supply within India? I dont see any coreless DC Motors, BLDC Motors, SESM Motors Manufacturer in India. How is India is suppose sustain long drawn wars if these basic items are not indigenized? And its totally upon our Lalaa's who havent seen business opportunity in low hanging opportunities like these - who have capability to make big business and money.

No, will take another round of import bans/duty-maxxxing and PLIs for dhandhos to even bother.
Otherwise it's literally easy and cheaper to ((( Buy from 5 Places ))) where those 5 places end up being PRChina, Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore and Vietnam, but 4 of those 5 also fully source from one country only

Anyway more than imports the electronics portion( flight controller ) needs to be indegenized, for now atleast we need to make sure the chips come from non-Chinese sources and the PCB, assembly and software writing and loading into the electronics is done here.

 

[Noob]

Anyone knows what happened to Archer NG? Is it still an active project

 

[randombully]

Archer-NG: India’s Advanced MALE UAV Gears Up for Maiden Flight – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

Anyone knows what happened to Archer NG? Is it still an active project

According to IDRW, first flight in Feb or mach 2025.
They are trying for first flight before aero india.

 

[Noob]

Archer-NG: India’s Advanced MALE UAV Gears Up for Maiden Flight – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

According to IDRW, first flight in Feb or mach 2025.
They are trying for first flight before aero india.

From 6 months after last aero India to trying for FF before aero India we truly are something else

 

[fire starter]

Finally


View: https://x.com/Harinderindi22/status/1884940265435332705?t=5ZYE62XSwpvalVcPwVCwYw&s=19

 

[shade2]

Y'all nibbiars know what the truck/cabin used for the MGS is ?



Or is it a custom truck and cabin developed for MGS only?

 

[Bleh]

Y'all nibbiars know what the truck/cabin used for the MGS is ?

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Or is it a custom truck and cabin developed for MGS only?

AFAIK it's from VRDE (under DRDO)

 

[randombully]

Drdo 8×8 HMV(High mobility vehicle)

Google Image Result for https://ssbcrackexams.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/new-8x8-high-mobility-vehicle-by-drdo-beml.jpg

 

[fire starter]

DRDO-Industry-Academia Centre of Excellence at IIT Hyderabad successfully demonstrated LAAM System, one of India's largest metal 3D printers with a build volume of 1mx1m x3m. This indigenously designed system uses Laser&Blown-Powder Directed Energy Deposition tech with dual heads.

 

[fire starter]

FSS based RAS by NAL.

4 types of RAM developed.

 

[Anants]

Y'all nibbiars know what the truck/cabin used for the MGS is ?

View attachment 23630

Or is it a custom truck and cabin developed for MGS only?

Custom cabin on Tatra Chasis

 

[mist_consecutive]

While Training with FPV with Drones is good, I worry and wonder have we secured Drone Components supply within India? I dont see any coreless DC Motors, BLDC Motors, SESM Motors Manufacturer in India. How is India is suppose sustain long drawn wars if these basic items are not indigenized? And its totally upon our Lalaa's who havent seen business opportunity in low hanging opportunities like these - who have capability to make big business and money.

A simple google search got me these companies manufacturing BLDCs in India -

Leading BLDC Motor Manufacturer Globally -

Our world class BLDC motors are available in 12V BLDC Motor, 24V BLDC Motor, 36V BLDC Motor guise, with speeds ranging from 1,000 RPM to 10,000 RPM and torque ranging from 0.3 Ncm to 120 Ncm. They can be integrated with different types of Gearboxes, and Controllers.

mechtex.com

www.compageauto.com - Leading PMSM & BLDC motor manufacturers in india

100% MADE IN INDIA BLDC PMSM MOTORS & CONTROLLERS FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES

www.compageauto.com

BLDC motors | BLDC drives supplier, Manufacturer in Pune, India

Jayashree Electrodevices provide BLDC motors, BLDC drives at best cost in pune, Mumbai, Nashik, UP, MP, Chhattisgarh, Chennai, Tamil Nadu, Kolkata, Bangalore, Bengaluru Gujarat, Ahmedabad, India. It is the best BLDC motors, BLDC drives supplier, Manufacturer company.

jayashree-electrodevices.com

And I am sure there are many more.

No, will take another round of import bans/duty-maxxxing and PLIs for dhandhos to even bother.
Otherwise it's literally easy and cheaper to ((( Buy from 5 Places ))) where those 5 places end up being PRChina, Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore and Vietnam, but 4 of those 5 also fully source from one country only

Anyway more than imports the electronics portion( flight controller ) needs to be indegenized, for now atleast we need to make sure the chips come from non-Chinese sources and the PCB, assembly and software writing and loading into the electronics is done here.

Indigenious flight controllers -

Darkmatter® BRAHMA F7 - STM32F722 Flight Controller - Made In India

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