Indian Air Force: News & Discussions (27 Viewers)

[strat]

Indigenous Awacs gets go-ahead, to be developed by DRDO

India's Air Force will soon get six new, large Awacs. The government has approved the Awacs India project. DRDO will collaborate with Indian companies and Airbus. They will integrate advanced systems onto A321 aircraft. This project enhances India's defense capabilities. It also positions India...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

So 6 of these along with 6 netra mk2s which were already ordered order ?

 

[shade2]

So 6 of these along with 6 netra mk2s which were already ordered order ?

These are the 6 netra mk2 onlee.

Netra mk2 is the same rectangular radar but on an Airbus A321 plane instead of the small Embraer private jet.

You can see the model in below pic

 

[Interested]

Indigenous Awacs gets go-ahead, to be developed by DRDO

India's Air Force will soon get six new, large Awacs. The government has approved the Awacs India project. DRDO will collaborate with Indian companies and Airbus. They will integrate advanced systems onto A321 aircraft. This project enhances India's defense capabilities. It also positions India...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

Anyone know how time intensive is the modification to the planes ?.... Airbus works pretty slowly as a corporation and if we need to send the planes over there and a lot of work is needed , I don't we will even get the planes back in 3 years forget about putting on the radar and handing it to the IAF in that timeframe.

 

[Interested]

So 6 of these along with 6 netra mk2s which were already ordered order ?

Last I heard the plane has not be chosen for Netra MK1A but yes that's the intention.

The Airbus AWAC is Netra MK2

 

[truthsoldier]

India approves Airbus aircraft for its spy planes for $1.5 billion

India has cleared a $1.5-billion proposal to build airborne warning and control systems for the air force taking over six Airbus A321 passenger aircraft off the national carrier Air India, to act as the 'eyes in the sky' to keep a watch on military movement in neighbouring nuclear-armed China...

defence.capital

Why has the price of Netra mk 2 escalated to double i.e 3B dollars as per latestreport? The above is a 2021 report

 

[Drwho]

स्टील्थ फाइटर जेट के इंजन भारत में बनेंगे... फ्रांस से होने जा रही 61,000 करोड़ रुपये की बड़ी डिफेंस डील

भारत और फ्रांस ₹61,000 करोड़ के जेट इंजन समझौते के करीब हैं. यह 120kN इंजन AMCA और IMRH के लिए होगा. HAL फ्रांस के साथ सह-विकास करेगा, जो रक्षा आत्मनिर्भरता बढ़ाएगा. तकनीक ट्रांसफर से भारत नई ऊंचाइयों पर पहुंचेगा, सुरक्षा को मजबूत करेगा.

www.aajtak.in

This some next level stuff. Surprise and a pleasant one.

Stopgap should be Rafale. With our missile

Bye bye Russia bye USA. Wake up china

 

[snakeeyes07]

Worth a listen, reasonable (professional) perspective from former Senior Air Staff Officer of IAF's WAC.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CHFNOPoqxg

 

[officewarrior]

Did you guys hear about puja khedkar case the corrupt ias officer who fuked the whole indian juidicary, medical, nationa testing, certificate issuing systems.
I really worry about our corrupt systems which is everywhere in govt owned psu or defence forces.
People should really stop expecting from our nation it is going backward not forward in every human development index.

 

[FalconSlayers]

 

[BON PLAN]

SAFRAN choosen to developp the AMCA engine ?

Indo-French next-generation fighter engine collab gets minimum thrust

India's defence ministry suggests partnering with France for advanced fighter jet engine development. This ₹61,000 crore project aims to create a 120kn engine for future platforms like AMCA. The collaboration with Safran offers complete technology transfer. While initial AMCA models may use...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

 

[concard]

SAFRAN choosen to developp the AMCA engine ?

Indo-French next-generation fighter engine collab gets minimum thrust

India's defence ministry suggests partnering with France for advanced fighter jet engine development. This ₹61,000 crore project aims to create a 120kn engine for future platforms like AMCA. The collaboration with Safran offers complete technology transfer. While initial AMCA models may use...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

That's the news going on. I am little perplexed as I thought they are going to go with Rolls Royce since they were promising lot more given their vast experience in developing both low bypass and high bypass Jet Engines. However, it looks like geopolitics might have played a part in this decision. It is more likely UK is seen as a bitch of US from Indian foreign policy perspective and they fear RR might cease co-operation at some point living us hanging if US presses hard on UK to do so. India's relationship with Russia has not gone down well with US or UK. There was even in a article in Telegraph few days ago stating India should be declared as a enemy country for it's relationship with Russia.

India is an enemy, not a friend or a neutral

So there’s a nation largely armed by Russia and which bankrolls Putin. What else would you call it?

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[shade2]

That's the news going on. I am little perplexed as I thought they are going to go with Rolls Royce since they were promising lot more given their vast experience in developing both low bypass and high bypass Jet Engines. However, it looks like geopolitics might have played a part in this decision. It is more likely UK is seen as a bitch of US from Indian foreign policy perspective and they fear RR might cease co-operation at some point living us hanging if US presses hard on UK to do so. India's relationship with Russia has not gone down well with US or UK. There was even in a article in Telegraph few days ago stating India should be declared as a enemy country for it's relationship with Russia.

India is an enemy, not a friend or a neutral

So there’s a nation largely armed by Russia and which bankrolls Putin. What else would you call it?

www.telegraph.co.uk

The Chad Trusted Ally supplying Helicopter turboshaft Shakti engines and ToT for Dhruv, Prachand, Rudra and IMRH in the future




vs

The virgin US poodle that bitches about Aid, Is had by the balls by the Mirpuri and will openly cease collaboration in the nanosecond the US masta commands him to.




You ask me a seperate tie up should have been done with RR for commercial/transport jet engines and marine gas turbines, but our Govt is too chindi for that

 

[ArjunMK1A]

That's the news going on. I am little perplexed as I thought they are going to go with Rolls Royce since they were promising lot more given their vast experience in developing both low bypass and high bypass Jet Engines. However, it looks like geopolitics might have played a part in this decision. It is more likely UK is seen as a bitch of US from Indian foreign policy perspective and they fear RR might cease co-operation at some point living us hanging if US presses hard on UK to do so. India's relationship with Russia has not gone down well with US or UK. There was even in a article in Telegraph few days ago stating India should be declared as a enemy country for it's relationship with Russia.

India is an enemy, not a friend or a neutral

So there’s a nation largely armed by Russia and which bankrolls Putin. What else would you call it?

www.telegraph.co.uk

That Telegraph article author seems to be salty about us. Also, called muh weapons underperformed when pretty much took down everything for fun. Again, he is not an defence author.

 

[shade2]

That Telegraph article author seems to be salty about us. Also, called muh weapons underperformed when pretty much took down everything for fun. Again, he is not an defence author.

The author was a Royal Navy afsar
Anyway with the current state of the Bri'ish navy that doesn't count for much

 

[ArjunMK1A]

The author was a Royal Navy afsar
Anyway with the current state of the Bri'ish navy that doesn't count for much

There seems to be too much shit talk about Russian equipments. Meanwhile same British Army guys screwed up the SA80 Rifle and needed Le Germans support to fix them. Series of Naval ships which breaks down left right and centre. Finally cherry on top is the failed launch of Trident missile.

 

[shade2]

There seems to be too much shit talk about Russian equipments. Meanwhile same British Army guys screwed up the SA80 Rifle and needed Le Germans support to fix them. Series of Naval ships which breaks down left right and centre. Finally cherry on top is the failed launch of Trident missile.

Better slightly inferior Russian gear that you can use than gold plated besht in wurld Western wunderwaffe that you can't without T&C

 

[ArjunMK1A]

Better slightly inferior Russian gear that you can use than gold plated besht in wurld Western wunderwaffe that you can't without T&C

There are lot of overpriced junk getting used in Western countries. Eg. Stryker was complete bullshit, Patriot SAM was failed in SA by Houthis attack. Even some of the german game changing Leopard tanks were cooked. NATO relies on US ISR. US alone have 90% of assets.

That is why we are advocating for massive Space ISR for us. We can outreach anyone having those systems.

 

[Interested]

There are lot of overpriced junk getting used in Western countries. Eg. Stryker was complete bullshit, Patriot SAM was failed in SA by Houthis attack. Even some of the german game changing Leopard tanks were cooked. NATO relies on US ISR. US alone have 90% of assets.

That is why we are advocating for massive Space ISR for us. We can outreach anyone having those systems.

American / NATO stuff works very well when supported a huge and very expensive integrated battle structure .

As Ukriane found out when they tried their counter offensive with Western weapons in 2023 that a country with half the system are jsut sitting ducks for the Russians.

 

[redpanda]

India approves Airbus aircraft for its spy planes for $1.5 billion

India has cleared a $1.5-billion proposal to build airborne warning and control systems for the air force taking over six Airbus A321 passenger aircraft off the national carrier Air India, to act as the 'eyes in the sky' to keep a watch on military movement in neighbouring nuclear-armed China...

defence.capital

Why has the price of Netra mk 2 escalated to double i.e 3B dollars as per latestreport? The above is a 2021 report

Because A321 aren't typically used for AWACS. We need Airbus's help for modification of those aircrafts. And Airbus was demanding more money because of the type of extensive modification that needs be done to the airframe. So the deal was hung thanks to cost negotiation between both parties. It was natural the price was going to go up..