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Honestly if the news is true, it is great for Indian Navy. Two conventional design from MDL and L&T give big advantage.

Currently the requirement is 24 Subs.

Barring the Kio and Type 209. We have only Kalvari class as the modern submarine fleet.

Kalvari Class - 9

P75I - 6

P76 - 9 (Subs) pending.

But this 24 requirement is based on then Indian Economy. If the count increases, P76 count will also increase.
 
ArjunMK1A said:
Honestly if the news is true, it is great for Indian Navy. Two conventional design from MDL and L&T give big advantage.

Currently the requirement is 24 Subs.

Barring the Kio and Type 209. We have only Kalvari class as the modern submarine fleet.

Kalvari Class - 9

P75I - 6

P76 - 9 (Subs) pending.

But this 24 requirement is based on then Indian Economy. If the count increases, P76 count will also increase.
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We need more submarines, total conventional ones must be 30-35 including the current Scorpenes.
With 6-8 nuclear ones.
Hope DRDO AIP is successful or they find a good Lithium ion battery merchant, currently only the Japanese and Koreans have submarine grade li-ion figured out afaik.
 
shade2 said:
We need more submarines, total conventional ones must be 30-35 including the current Scorpenes.
With 6-8 nuclear ones.
Hope DRDO AIP is successful or they find a good Lithium ion battery merchant, currently only the Japanese and Koreans have submarine grade li-ion figured out afaik.
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AIP and Li ion tech is different I believe. The Jap submarine is simply charges the Li battery which holds high amount of energy compared to traditional Lead Acid ones. So it does need AIP.

Question is that Li battery is pretty much common with Commercial Car lithium battery. Challenge will be Certifying for Military standards.

Unfortunately, DRDO bros needs to do ball lifting as Indian Private Dhandos skipped this ship.
 
ArjunMK1A said:
AIP and Li ion tech is different I believe. The Jap submarine is simply charges the Li battery which holds high amount of energy compared to traditional Lead Acid ones. So it does need AIP.

Question is that Li battery is pretty much common with Commercial Car lithium battery. Challenge will be Certifying for Military standards.

Unfortunately, DRDO bros needs to do ball lifting as Indian Private Dhandos skipped this ship.
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No they've junked AIP altogether.

Basically while surfaced and engine is on it stores so much electricity in the batteries that they isn't a need for running AIP while submerged.

Koreans meanwhile have an AIP + Li-ion system so idk which is "better"
 
shade2 said:
No they've junked AIP altogether.

Basically while surfaced and engine is on it stores so much electricity in the batteries that they isn't a need for running AIP while submerged.

Koreans meanwhile have an AIP + Li-ion system so idk which is "better"
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Korean approach is way too complicated. Li batteries charge capacity is very high compared to Lead Acid. We don't need AIP further on that, this way go into SSN category.
 
ArjunMK1A said:
Korean approach is way too complicated. Li batteries charge capacity is very high compared to Lead Acid. We don't need AIP further on that, this way go into SSN category.
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Yes, the Koreans aren't allowed by their US mastas to build SSN.

Anyway let's hope the Admirals have a proper plan to subs-maxxx for the next 10 years.

Previous 20 years were wasted waiting for a fantasy 3000 ton, proven AIP and Brahmos vertical launching submarine to appear.

We need good amount of SSK and SSN to deal with Ching fleets coming in IOR in next 10-15 years
 
shade2 said:
We need good amount of SSK and SSN to deal with Ching fleets coming in IOR in next 10-15 years
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You need good amounts of submarine hunting aircraft to deal with them. They only have few choke points to send their submarines here, need persistent surveillance over those areas. Which is why large number of MQ-9B Sea Guardian type HALE drones are needed to detect the submarine and hunt it down with coastal SMART batteries, or P-8i and C-295 MPAs.
 
FalconSlayers said:
You need good amounts of submarine hunting aircraft to deal with them. They only have few choke points to send their submarines here, need persistent surveillance over those areas. Which is why large number of MQ-9B Sea Guardian type HALE drones are needed to detect the submarine and hunt it down with coastal SMART batteries, or P-8i and C-295 MPAs.
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Not to counter their subs, I mean to counter their CBGs and surface assets.
By 2035 I don't think we'll have p18s, even if we do idk if they'll have the magazine depth or not.
 
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