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Ideally ex-servicemen and retired Officers living in J&K and NE or near Bangladesh (Assam and West Bengal) border should be given these rifles with 3-4 magazines each.

VDC and Home Guard could be equipped with these rifles since they are still using .303s as of 2021.

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There are 4,125 VDCs and 486,401 Home Guard all over India. So assuming ~200,000 INSAS rifles are kept in reserve and say another ~5,000-10,000 kept aside for ex-servicemen and retired officers in border areas, what happens to the other 700,000 rifles?

I expect these rifles to be sent to OFB Ishapore and GCF Jabalpur to be disposed off from where some of these rifles will be disassembled and reported as 'destroyed'. Meanwhile criminals and underground weapons dealers will sell them to street level criminals.







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Scarily, by that time there will be tens of thousands of ex-Agniveer who will KNOW how to operate and maintain the INSAS and could form their own criminal gangs and smuggling networks.





And this problem shall compound if Agniveer are not suitably enployed after their tenure gets over. Giving one lumpsome money thinking he/she can open business never works as he may spend that money for self/sibling marriage, vehicle or payoff family loan. Once that money goes you will have jobless but military trained person. Better use then to settle in Jammu Kashmir villages as you for VDG or even for safegaurding Pandit colonies in Kashmir
 
And this problem shall compound if Agniveer are not suitably enployed after their tenure gets over. Giving one lumpsome money thinking he/she can open business never works as he may spend that money for self/sibling marriage, vehicle or payoff family loan. Once that money goes you will have jobless but military trained person. Better use then to settle in Jammu Kashmir villages as you for VDG or even for safegaurding Pandit colonies in Kashmir
That's why I was against the scheme.
What kind of morale will they have after knowing that they will be kicked out of army in 4 years without pension.
If government wanted to save money they could've just lowered the number of soldiers, nowadays wars are fought with airforce rather than ground force.

Settling agniveers in sensetive areas as permanent village guard is sustainable idea but it could also turn them into bahubalies
 
That's why I was against the scheme.
What kind of morale will they have after knowing that they will be kicked out of army in 4 years without pension.
If government wanted to save money they could've just lowered the number of soldiers, nowadays wars are fought with airforce rather than ground force.

Settling agniveers in sensetive areas as permanent village guard is sustainable idea but it could also turn them into bahubalies
Or could give them lateral entry into police force..there is a severe shortage of personnel there. Just look at our police personnel per 100k stat.
 
That's why I was against the scheme.
What kind of morale will they have after knowing that they will be kicked out of army in 4 years without pension.
If government wanted to save money they could've just lowered the number of soldiers, nowadays wars are fought with airforce rather than ground force.

Settling agniveers in sensetive areas as permanent village guard is sustainable idea but it could also turn them into bahubalies
This airforce debate, same i had with a brother of major general and he himself gave nda and cds but couldnt clear. He gave example of israel hamas, where the main warfare is in tunnel and airforce cannot find and destroy tunnels from cameras. Ground invasion, search and destroy is necessary, but at the same time, many ground invasion works can now be taken by drones too.

In india, army and capf are just rozgaar generation yojna which will give good pay and sarkari naukri
 
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This airforce debate i had with a brother of major general and he himself gave nda and cds but couldnt clear. He gave example of israel hamas, where the main warfare is in tunnel and airforce cannot find and destroy tunnels from cameras. Ground invasion, search and destroy is necessary, but at the same time, many ground invasion works can now be taken by drones too.

In india, army and capf are just rozgaar generation yojna which will give good pay and sarkari naukri
The ground forces will be there, but the numbers are not justifiable in modern warfare era.
1 million active duty personnel will be enough compared to 1.4 million.
We need much bigger airforce with at least 1000 fighter jets
 
The ground forces will be there, but the numbers are not justifiable in modern warfare era.
1 million active duty personnel will be enough compared to 1.4 million.
We need much bigger airforce with at least 1000 fighter jets
But is 1 million enough in case of a hypothetical 3 front war with China, Pakistan & Bangladesh.

.5 i.e insurgents like Naxals can be handle by police force.
 
This airforce debate, same i had with a brother of major general and he himself gave nda and cds but couldnt clear. He gave example of israel hamas, where the main warfare is in tunnel and airforce cannot find and destroy tunnels from cameras. Ground invasion, search and destroy is necessary, but at the same time, many ground invasion works can now be taken by drones too.

In india, army and capf are just rozgaar generation yojna which will give good pay and sarkari naukri
Ideally, 50% of Agniveers should be retained within the armed forces. The remaining 50% can be absorbed into other security services such as the CRPF, CAPF, RPF, and state police forces. Given the substantial investment already made in their training, these individuals are well-prepared and capable of serving as at least entry-level personnel in these organisations. From a political standpoint, this approach also offers a win-win: the government can credibly claim to be generating jobs for the youth while making effective use of trained manpower.
 
Ideally, 50% of Agniveers should be retained within the armed forces. The remaining 50% can be absorbed into other security services such as the CRPF, CAPF, RPF, and state police forces. Given the substantial investment already made in their training, these individuals are well-prepared and capable of serving as at least entry-level personnel in these organisations. From a political standpoint, this approach also offers a win-win: the government can credibly claim to be generating jobs for the youth while making effective use of trained manpower.
It’s a good idea but it simply cannot be implemented because the CAPF come under the ambit of the reservation policy of GoI. Thus inducting Agniveers will lead to a dilution of this policy and lead to further political turmoil in the country.
 
It’s a good idea but it simply cannot be implemented because the CAPF come under the ambit of the reservation policy of GoI. Thus inducting Agniveers will lead to a dilution of this policy and lead to further political turmoil in the country.
I mean they could just fill the reservation quota with those agniveers. Surely some of those might be from reserved category. If it is planned well, the government can find ways to avoid this situation.
 
For the two front war we need more fighter jets, awacs and missiles rather than just numbers.
We also need IRF. I don't understand why some army veterans oppose it. There have been numerous articles written against Integrated Rocket Force by many army vets. Ofc there have been equal number of supportive articles written in favour of it by other army vets. But perhaps this conflicting view wrt to this idea within Army itself is what has made GoI not fully commit to this idea in last few years.
 
I mean they could just fill the reservation quota with those agniveers. Surely some of those might be from reserved category. If it is planned well, the government can find ways to avoid this situation.
The armed forces do not follow the reservation policy in recruitment hence it is difficult to say how many reserved category candidates join the forces through the Agniveer scheme. Moreover the lateral entry of Agniveers into the CAPFs is an excellent idea however it could turn into a political hot potato due to the reservation issue. The MHA could save money but shortening the training of new recruits since they would have already undergone training by the armed forces.
 

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