Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

[Nibbler]

Unkil shiv put it in better words than me

Lot of dirty little pakis and chings in this thread

 

[chnvipgz]

Su 57 will happen , these people who are against modernisation will keep crying for American stuff which will never happen.

these cry babies on hope of wonderful future should be sent to border with 50 year old weapons . When paki forces have latest Chinese weapon. Once they get shot they will realise difference between new and old stuff.

Indian airforce will face very tough times in future with Pakistan having new jets in bheek. A superior new gen fighter in small battle means a lot maybe not in full war. India can’t face china for now, only issue is Pakistan with china umbrella. That will be very daunting task.

That’s why last battle should have been grown. Because Pakistan was in big dump and we might not find them is same situation again.

Su57 aka hal fgfa was rejected 15 years ago due to no izediliye 30 engine now they are offering su57e version it will take a decade to make it su57mki with a load of money on it.

Moreover they lost those talented soviet aero engineers who can design alien rated jets like mig25 and it's engine.

Most electronics in russia is through china so buying new 5th gen is dangerous as old su30mki,brahmos,ships,submarines had soviet era electronics which are now being replaced with indian ones.

 

[chnvipgz]

"On 18 October 2007, Russia and India signed a contract for Sukhoi and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) to jointly develop a derivative of the PAK FA called the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA).In September 2010, India and Russia agreed on a preliminary design contract where each country was to invest $6 billion; a memorandum of understanding for the preliminary design was signed in December 2010, and the development of the FGFA was expected to take 8–10 years.By 2014, however, the Indian Air Force began voicing concerns over performance, cost, and workshare. India found that the aircraft does not meet its requirements and eventually left the partnership in 2018."

If india want it's 5th gen to have networked warfare capabilities it has to built it's own amca no foreign silver bullet will help.

 

[chnvipgz]

Oh so you mean to say su30 brahmos and indian aircraft carrier also submarine are shyt ?

Because what ever we have the base had always been Russian .

All of these were designed during soviet ussr prosperous days they don't have that talent anymore in russia.

 

[Amit]

getting ready for live testing soon ... 2.0



View: https://x.com/NewsIADN/status/1931713499593343164

in future, mount it on a robot dog and gun will start walking!

 

[maximus777]

I think India should focus on AMCA with an all-hands-on deck approach with money not being an object. If needed, spend 8-10% of GDP on defense until we get a reliable engine and a FGFA. In the interim, focus on AAD and precision guided missiles/bombs including hypersonic. This will require us to have a huge stockpile of all sorts of cruise missiles and glide bombs for which we have indigenous capacity. The goal should be rendering the airfields and infrastructure to waste within the first few hours of a conflict. The airfields/infra are static and we should be able to strike them with high precision. This will ground PAF regardless of the generation of their aircrafts. Then we can use our 4.5 gen aircrafts to strike with impunity.

As a second step, build of Tejas variants in numbers, add some additional Rafales and Su30MKI. This should keep us relatively secure until we get AMCA flying. Assuming we pump up the numbers, with 200+ Tejas, 300+ flankers and 100+ Rafales, there is nothing we can't defend. Drones and Bramos & Co. can be the tip of the spear until AMCA!

 

[maximus777]

Nice dream .

A better dream than getting F35 on time and having a complete freehand from Unkil Sam to fight the Pakis and Chinese with it. Unkil couldn't deliver 6 Apaches in 6 years, GE engines are already behind schedule - so fat chance with F35. I don't consider Su-57 as a 5th gen aircraft since it has hardly flown any noteworthy missions in Ukraine. And we pulled out of this FGFA program for a reason. So what are India's options really?

 

[randombully]

A better dream than getting F35 on time and having a complete freehand from Unkil Sam to fight the Pakis and Chinese with it. Unkil couldn't deliver 6 Apaches in 6 years, GE engines are already behind schedule - so fat chance with F35. I don't consider Su-57 as a 5th gen aircraft since it has hardly flown any noteworthy missions in Ukraine. And we pulled out of this FGFA program for a reason. So what are India's options really?

Indeed it's a better dream, but it's a dream, we ain't doing it, while I would also prefer your dream to become a reality, but it will remain a dream.

 

[Miss Firing]

Saaar, we kolayalees are very different from others, saaar we dont hate other countries saaar, saaar we dont hate other religions like Sanghees saaar.

Saaar we felicitate rabid Pakistani Jihadists & terrorist sympathizing cricketers because we are not like that Sanghee north Indian bigots saar.

 

[Nicky]

Where do you get the idea that Su57 is available? Su57 is not available and we are NOT going to take risks with the Russian supply chain when they have a war of attrition going on with Ukraine. No chance. Su57 is NOT at all available in the near term. It is not proven at all.

Where do you get the idea it's not available? Russia has offered it before and again.

As for supply chain, if it's a joint development being done in India, we can help out with the logistics and already have infra setup.

It's not ideal but it's what we have as stop gap till we get AMCA which is not happening before 2040, if all goes well.

 

[craigs]

Most of them leave russia to join top universities in nato countries.

Are you sure? - NATO countries are not going to take them in. Has not been doing that for about 10 yrs ever since Russia liberated Crimea.

 

[Drwho]

"On 18 October 2007, Russia and India signed a contract for Sukhoi and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) to jointly develop a derivative of the PAK FA called the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA).In September 2010, India and Russia agreed on a preliminary design contract where each country was to invest $6 billion; a memorandum of understanding for the preliminary design was signed in December 2010, and the development of the FGFA was expected to take 8–10 years.By 2014, however, the Indian Air Force began voicing concerns over performance, cost, and workshare. India found that the aircraft does not meet its requirements and eventually left the partnership in 2018."

If india want it's 5th gen to have networked warfare capabilities it has to built it's own amca no foreign silver bullet will help.

so screwed basically because amca is impossible for next 30 40 years. India have nothing only on mercy of Chinese. Same with most other platform.
What are you doing here ? Go to mandir Majid gurudwara pray.
Or learn Chinese or Urdu . Because china will grow and grow fast . They will provide paki with new weapons and technology just to ruin india.
Akhand Bharat ki jagah suaaristan hoga.

India have to go for stop gap. Now or 10 years later . IAF reject because they want expensive toys. India is a poor nation and can’t afford. You can see what happened to mrca. It’s not govt fault it’s the budget constraints,

 

[chnvipgz]

Are you sure? - NATO countries are not going to take them in. Has not been doing that for about 10 yrs ever since Russia liberated Crimea.

Yes many russian ioi,imo,ipho medallist now work for uk,usa and europe some moved to gulf countries,china,japan,korea and south american countries like brazil.

 

[Drwho]

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Unkil shiv put it in better words than me

Lot of dirty little pakis and chings in this thread

This uncle is china madarkhod. They do reverse psychology. They want india weak and beg for mercy in next fight.
Nobody want amca to die let that experiment running.

These chino paki suar will try every dirty trick. And who gives a rats Arse for their our opinions? Govt will decide .

 

[craigs]

Yes many russian ioi,imo,ipho medallist now work for uk,usa and europe some moved to gulf countries,china,japan,korea and south american countries like brazil.

All that was pre-Crimea. Not anymore. Also if there science is so bad how come they have hyper sonics, burevestnik etc? Which "NATO" country matches any of those?

 

[Drwho]

All that was pre-Crimea. Not anymore. Also if there science is so bad how come they have hyper sonics, burevestnik etc? Which "NATO" country matches any of those?

Don’t bother he is chinaman . They do these dirty tricks. For them Indian govt will make decision this way.
Oh let’s go to Bharat forum and see what Craig or chavni pig is saying ohooo nimbler ki baat suno ohhoo bhai forum ke mods se hi final verdict lelo .

We are opinion and they dont matter. For them being in dictatorship means we can’t even have opinions. So they get pissed very easily.

 

[Cyclops]

I could be wrong but I doubt that India hit any American assets in Pakistan during India's military strikes on Pakistan. The displeasure of the US is multifold:

I do hope you're wrong.

I would love to hear years from now that we got a few burgerchods too and that they were scurrying around after seeing only a handful of standoff munition explode so close to them.

My theory:

• Some burgers either were hurt or were very close to being hurt.
• They were in contact with USCENTCOM throughout the whole skirmish.
• Strikes happen, CENTCOM contacts DOD+Washington and confirm IAF is not stopping
• Combine the above with the fear of a balkanized pakistan, they had to say uncle(make pakis say uncle) before IAF pwnage got too extreme.
• The possibility of multiple US servicemen being liquidated in pakistan right after pakis launched a terrorist attack into India would be a major humiliation for everyone(State Dept, Washington, Intel-dipshits & DoD), especially since they would not have a justified reason to riposte militarily against "these bloody Indians". We did all of that without losing escalation dominance.
• Eventually, Vance intervenes, ONLY a few days after he confidently proclaimed to the world that this was not their conflict.

Spoiler: There was like back to back humbling for the burgers those few weeks. :hehe:

>Be Murica
>Send 2 carrier battle groups to pwn the Houthis
>Lose multi million dollar drones to basic bitch SAMs
>Lose FA-18s to "carrier maneuvers", Houthis say they shot them down
>F-35 turns tail after facing Houthi SAMs
>Trump declares victory, promises Houthis will stop, Murican media copes
>HOUTHIS DON'T STOP
>Wake up the next day to Indians decisively pwning your rabid dog
>Indians do airstrikes and A2AD better than you
>Rinse and Repeat

a. India hit Pakistanese nuclear facilities. Keep in mind Pakistan's nuclear weapons are USA's favorite scarecrows against India.

b. India successfully tested Chinese electronic war fighting capabilities and cornered Pakistan decisively.

Operation Sindhoor completely upset the apple cart.

Amen to that.

 

[Doreamon]

Yes many russian ioi,imo,ipho medallist now work for uk,usa and europe some moved to gulf countries,china,japan,korea and south american countries like brazil.

What you are saying is true thousands of Russian scientists have left Russia over years specially after war .. And what he is saying is also somewhat true because Europe particularly not so much eager to entertain Russian nationals .. CERN removed 500 Russian scientists recently . But I doubt any country ll be stupid enough to remove high valued scientists . China has somewhat attracted many talents in the mean time .

This phenomenon is more applicable to Indian scenario due to lack of job offers at high end research . The thing is there are so many of us one go another come out and world goes on

 

[Viper316]

A terror threat from an ex CIA after she got agitated from a random reply from an Indian. Irrespective of whoever comes to power, The Deep state hate against India and love for terroristan is irreversible. Now we started seing meltdown from US officials


View: https://x.com/TPASarah/status/1931850518042939872?t=oIPChd08wUvBePA2pEwCgA&s=19

 

[vampyrbladez]

2 (Jyoti Malhotra and Jasbir Singh) out of 3 people in this photo have been arrested on espionage charges.

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Will Navankur Chaudhary/Yatri Doctor be arrested next? He is currently somewhere near Pitcairn Island, British Overseas Territories per his last video.

Is he planning to jump ship to save himself from arrest and head to UK to save himself from extradition as a 'political refugee' like Khalistanis.


View: https://youtu.be/f9qvGVhHIsU?si=iBpV1oWyO9gvJl9e

Called it before. He has travelled to London, UK to seek asylum.

Passport should have been impounded while he was still in India.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaask87w10k