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I don't know where your views come from, but in my discussions with a few IA veterans, who themselves were parts of 71', 87' and a few who served+lost kins in Kargil, Russians are the best strategists in warfare and tough as nails when it comes to war.Russia and ukraine both suck at fighting tbh. Even pakis fight better than them. Russian/Ukrainian combined arms doctrine is different than Western style doctrines, which India and even Pakistan follows.
Funny how it's the 2nd time in a row they couldn't track and destroy an incoming BrahMos, despite being on alert this time unlike in 2022 when it came as an unexpected surpriseis a Nuclear capable missile... Just saying India can hit them bulls-eye with tactical nukes
The most important for India for this kind of aerial operation is, for me, not here.All the above members. On a fine day early morning, whey you guys come out of house for morning walk, picking milk packets, newspapers. You will encounter an cat. The cat is friendly and you will try to pat him. The moment you go near, he will take his hidden AK and shoot you at Point Blank.
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I have given some ideas on IAF Problems, some of them were achievable in 5 years.
1. 97 Extra Tejas.
2. MIG 29 Upgrade including AESA
3. Mirage 2K with AESA Upgrade.
4. SU30MKI Upgrade
5. Additional Rafale orders
6. Purchasing commercial EMB145 and make Netra MK1 (Increase the AWACS count).
7. Order extra C-295 to replace the AN-32.
8. Assuage Trump chacha by buying Chinooks, C-130 and getting F414 Production in India.
These are achievable in 5 years.
Mostly true howeverWhat are you talking about?
1. Already confirmed that order will be completed by 2031 at the earliest, if no further delays
2. Already gone through one upgrade and 40 years old. No airframe life left for another upgrade
3. Same as 2
4. Only 90 planes planned to be upgraded in the first phase, and that itself will take more than 5 years.
5. Orders possible. Delivery for RafaleM itself will take 5 years
6. We are already going for bigger awacs on A321 platform, which won't fit on Emb145 anymore. So again not happening.
7. Mostly will happen
8. Mostly will happen
PAF has HQ9B with 260km range so it was employed with volleys of sams launched against all attacking IAF vectorsThere are three wreckages so far
Bhatinda, Akhnoor and Pampore. Akhnoor is not even a confirmed wreckage, may just be a drop tank with no wreckage close-by.
Bhatinda has clear visual evidence and its a Rafale (MICA and M88). Other two are unknown.
Also, based on how deep these are in Indian territory, whether they are Pakistani wreckages or Indian, I can only conclude one of two things
1. Hot pursuit by PAF fighters well into Indian territory
2. Attempted retaliation by PAF last night and these wreckages of Indian interceptors or their interception.
I personally don't care, all IAF airmen are home safe. They have hit their targets hard. Losses are always to be expected - we are fighting Pakistan not Hamas.
However, if it was 2, we need to expand the conflict and hit PAF air bases.
I don't know where your views come from, but in my discussions with a few IA veterans, who themselves were parts of 71', 87' and a few who served+lost kins in Kargil, Russians are the best strategists in warfare and tough as nails when it comes to war.
This came from folks who actually fought wars so I respected their judgement.
This was also before twitter/insta age when internal news/psyops etc. were pretty primitive and Russian army internal stories and inefficiencies were not out in the open.
Depends on what the instructions will be by GOI.. when Pakistan responds .PAF has HQ9B with 260km range so it was employed with volleys of sams launched against all attacking IAF vectors
We are only talking about loses however there were multiple aircrafts which bombed paxtan at the same time while successfully dodging various SAM missiles aimed at them.. paxtan wanted max attrition however they could only target 3 or albiet 2..
Now whatever loses we had were during when aircrafts were retreating after dropping it's PGMs..
IAF for all it's ill i hv to admit hv earned my max respect they fought with their arms tied against their arm where they had clear instructions of only targeting terrorist infrastructure..nd they did achieve their objectives successfully that's some massive resolve nd courage.
Now coming to PAF when faced with threat of facing S400 nd meteor they simply chickened out of fight..
Russians used weather to their advantage; a great strategy of drawing in the enemy in until the russianRussian battles need to be studied, from WWII. Even when they didn't have superior weaponry, they kept on sending waves of soldiers to drive the enemy to attrition.
When they do have superiority, they adjust accordingly.
It was Russians that won WWII, the US simply dropped a copule of bombs when it was already over.