Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

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The Chinese attack will come in North East. We came to blows in 2020, they have started aggressive incursions since then. But their Intent was clear since 2017 doklam. Even if Indian Navy is involved and decimates Karachi, if you end up losing even a few inches of land in Ladakh/Arunachal or your air force ends up overwhelmed by Paki, Chini combined force and the mainland cities are attacked kinda like Op Sindoor. It's as good as a defeat.

Any Chinkie attack from North or North East would end terribly for Chinkies in case of a war.
Himalayas is the last terrain any country want's to cross on this earth to wage war on another.
Chinkies would be skewered and decimated in that sector.

They can pay money to Myanmar and enter from there, that would offer Chinkies bit better survivability.

North or North East, good luck getting them men and arms across the mountains and fight.
All India would have to do bomb two or three roads and the chinkies are fked beyond belief, trapped like rats.

There are no easy solutions for Chinkies to attack us. Thank god for nature providing us impregnable mountains.
 
STAR is only a supersonic target missile which mimics sea skimming supersonic missiles and anti radiation missile to test our ADS against real world threat of supersonic missiles.

It's an analogous to US GMQ-163A Coyote.
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technology (LIQUID RAMJET) from STAR will be used to develop variants like AAM to target AWACS nd anti radiation missiles which will be cheaper than brahmos NG.
STAR implies that there is a domestic liquid ramjet engine available. Future missiles can be built around the same.
The STAR as it is will do it's work as a target.
Many here suspect that the first application of a domestic liquid ramjet is not a weapon is because of a deal with the Russians regarding brahmos.
 
A 2 front war will turn nuclear especially for Paxtan.

The armed forces upgradation / modernization & theater ization program of the Chinese armed forces will be completed by 2027-28 as per schedule. So far there's nothing to indicate they're behind schedule.

Hence any action against any actor by China in its neighbourhood will be after 2028. Add a bit of buffer to it & we're looking at either 2029 or likely 2030.

I'm of the opinion the Chinese will start out against India before moving on to Taiwan. I don't expect Paxtan to be around then , going by the events of the last 1 year in Paxtan especially its internal security , its economy & deep political unrest among other equally critical issues it faces.

I don't buy your argument about Chinese first coming after us and going for Taiwan later for simple reason. They don't know or for that matter anyone knows whether any war with India will be contained or spiral out of control. There is that risk factor. If it spirals out of control then they will be losing their precious trained soldiers and military assets. These things are needed for the big war against Taiwan/US. Now my point is, let's say they are arming themselves to the teeth to take on US to get Taiwan. In the event they succeed to take Taiwan, they will be numero uno in Asia. They can do what ever they want later. War against India will only set them back many years and by that time they recover their supreme leader will be on his death bed.

Their supreme leader will be 77 years old by 2030. Still few more years left of his life to see Taiwan part of PRC. Would he make the mistake of chewing more than he could handle at that time? I don't think so. But I won't fully rule your theory out. Because Chinese have never fought a modern war. That thing will be on their minds when they straight away jump into real war with a bigger enemy like US who are always trigger happy and military hardened.
 
Posting history of such posters is a give away.

Post terrorist attack & prior to Op Sindoor - Constant taunts/attacks on BJP/Modi using a number of phrases/terms.

Remain silent during the course of operation.

Post operation, rant about how it has not been that big a success or Modi did it to shore his image or as to how "international analysts" say Modi did this just as a token action/no permanent solution or "Muh Indira Gandy" without any Geo-political context whatsoever.

Constant factor is down-playing any achievement of BJP/GOI/Modi.

You would think these posters would have settled down.
Nope.

They jump from one thing to another to another trying to desperate find and even misrepresent to target BJP and Modi.
I am beginning to think these folks hate Modi and his guts for some reason.
 
A 2 front war will turn nuclear especially for Paxtan.

The armed forces upgradation / modernization & theater ization program of the Chinese armed forces will be completed by 2027-28 as per schedule. So far there's nothing to indicate they're behind schedule.

Hence any action against any actor by China in its neighbourhood will be after 2028. Add a bit of buffer to it & we're looking at either 2029 or likely 2030.

I'm of the opinion the Chinese will start out against India before moving on to Taiwan. I don't expect Paxtan to be around then , going by the events of the last 1 year in Paxtan especially its internal security , its economy & deep political unrest among other equally critical issues it faces.

This is incorrect assessment of the Chinese. The chinese will NOT attack India, unless one or both of these conditions are met:
1. It wishes to come to Pakistan's aid in a direct military loss to India of 1971 proportions
2. It is reasonably certain it can deliver a 1963-esque victory and capture a sizeable chunk of land it claims from india- most preferrable in Arunachal Pradesh.

Just like how India perceives Pakistan, China percieves India and in the Chinese info-sphere and Chinese culture-sphere, anything less than the above two will be seen as a misadventure/pointless and even a loss in worst case scenario - because even if Chinese inflict air casualties on us, they wont go unscathed and unless they can hold ground or they have zero reasons to go into a missile-lobbing fest with india and blow up its bases ala Pakistan style, on its own, to 'teach india a lesson'.
Chinese nationalism is very land-oriented, i shall remind u Mao 'taught India a lesson' by gobbling 50,000 sq km of our land. Xi would have to enter that ball park and eat at least half that number in some significant population areas for China to consider this a venture worth taking on its own.

Our China angle is not overly complicated - its to play to our strengths and plug our weaknesses, where our strength is far more extensive montane combat experience and training in montane combat, while our weakness is defence and logistics infrastructure near the border.

if our army has enough capability to contain China to a doklam/galwan like situation, China will not escalate beyond that, especially given India has means to hurt China economically, given China runs huge trade surpluses with India and while net trade with India doesnt enter Chinese top 10 trade partners, their +ve score in export-import category, ie, where they EARN their cash, India is #2 singular nation, after the US.

A sudden war-time scenario will almost certainly see that trade surplus cash evaporate and put further stress on Chinese economy - China will only risk this if one of the two above conditions are met.
 
Dr. Sudhir Mishra who is Ex DIR GEN of Brahmos aerospace revealed some information to news media about Brahmos which I thought should have never been revealed. This is what I knew about Brahmos before he revealed this information to news media.

  • Brahmos - Land attack version - launched from land to strike a target on land.
  • Brahmos - air launched version - launched from fighter aircraft to strike a target on land.
  • Brahmos - Ship launched version - launched from Ship to strike another ship.
But Dr. Mishra went on and revealed there are 2 other versions of Brahmos which are:

  • Brahmos - Land to ship - launched from land to strike an enemy ship.
  • Brahmos - Ship to Land - launched from ship to strike a target on land.
I did not know last 2 versions existed before. It is good they exist. But I wish this should not have been revealed to the media. Having said that, we need massive inventory of all versions of Brahmos. We need hypersonic Brahmos with 1,000 kms range soon. We should fully indigenize Brahmos and churn out loads of them or at the very least churn out critical parts which can be assembled quickly during war time.
 
Dr. Sudhir Mishra who is Ex DIR GEN of Brahmos aerospace revealed some information to news media about Brahmos which I thought should have never been revealed. This is what I knew about Brahmos before he revealed this information to news media.

  • Brahmos - Land attack version - launched from land to strike a target on land.
  • Brahmos - air launched version - launched from fighter aircraft to strike a target on land.
  • Brahmos - Ship launched version - launched from Ship to strike another ship.
But Dr. Mishra went on and revealed there are 2 other versions of Brahmos which are:

  • Brahmos - Land to ship - launched from land to strike an enemy ship.
  • Brahmos - Ship to Land - launched from ship to strike a target on land.
I did not know last 2 versions existed before. It is good they exist. But I wish this should not have been revealed to the media. Having said that, we need massive inventory of all versions of Brahmos. We need hypersonic Brahmos with 1,000 kms range soon. We should fully indigenize Brahmos and churn out loads of them or at the very least churn out critical parts which can be assembled quickly during war time.

1. if you have air to ship, you almost always have land to ship - that is a no-brainer really, you just need logistics of a land based launch platform - the missile itself is capable, since anything that can target a moving target while it itself is moving and doesnt have fixed coordinate, can obviously target the same moving target while it is fixed, aka not moving itself.

2. Ship to land is an easier version of air to land - its opposite clause of #1 - striking a static target while you the missile yourself is not a fixed coordinate. in ship based version, its easy mode, because ships dont go as fast as a plane, so the target bearing at moment of launch is much easier and faster to calculate, owing to your slower changing coordinates.
 
STAR implies that there is a domestic liquid ramjet engine available. Future missiles can be built around the same.
The STAR as it is will do it's work as a target.
Many here suspect that the first application of a domestic liquid ramjet is not a weapon is because of a deal with the Russians regarding brahmos.

DRDO has developed indigenous LFRJ engine of 350mm diameter which will be used in both brahmos ng nd STAR (it's derivatives)

We don't depend on russia now for LFRJ with upcoming brahmos NG

Even with STAR and it's derivatives nothing will come close to brahmos NG because of its complex design..
 
This is putting word in his mouth. He didn't said anywhere "pakistani were informed before hand", watch the clip. He said they informed Pakistani side about our attack on 9 terrorist camp after the initial strike were successful. That's it. Nothing new. Rai Ka pahad banana inn bhosdapiller se koi sikhe. I don't like Jaishankar, he is overrated as FM. But this kind of misinterpretation of statement to push a false narrative by these bhosdapiller is not something anyone should tolerate. This doesn't help India.

The bhosdapillar chu you are responding to routinely quotes congressi trad handles on the politics thread and has his own agenda. There is an ignore button, make use of it.
 
DRDO has developed indigenous LFRJ engine of 350mm diameter which will be used in both brahmos ng nd STAR (it's derivatives)

We don't depend on russia now for LFRJ with upcoming brahmos NG

Even with STAR and it's derivatives nothing will come close to brahmos NG because of its complex design..

Old ass pic of the 350mm indigenous LFRJ.👇Who knows how far DRDO already has gotten.

350mm liquid fueled ramjet by DRDL.webp
 
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The OP Sindor even though looks neutralizing PAK terror and calling out their bluff about NUK , but the way India carried out this OPS , it has far reaching implications. US , China and EU politics works on Military equipment suppliers market. During this OPs India went through defense of F-16/JF-17 and many chines defence equipment they boast . Similarly the Turkey Drones which came to lime lite after Ukraine war were also decimated. So we took on many so called established players and shown our Bhramos Power which can penetrate all above . This has proved detrimental to this markets and they all have come together to demean us.
We are on right path , we have to develop out tech in such a way to keep ourselves ahead and this way protect us from any future such efforts by world community till we become economic power.It was very necessary to demonstrate hard power to world (which we have shown) to pay attention to your views on world platform.In my view , india taking out PAK to its knees in just 4 days has bigger impact because no country has fought war we country having NUK , its only INIDA could do and win!
 


Ideally we should be able to handle Porkies with 20-25% of our resources and we save the rest for Chini.

My sense is that Chini will definitely go for an offensive against us, either initiated by them or they will insert themselves while we are banging Porkies.

They both want to be sure of their weapon systems before engaging the US and want us depleted to prevent interference from their western borders.

We need to ramp up domestic industry at war footing churn out the weapons we can and plug the gap by acquisition where we have no domestic alternative.
 
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