Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

[eastern_bhartiya]

Who cares what Paxtan thinks or feels ? People in places of influence know exactly what the situation is . As far as international lay man's opinion goes that's ALREADY in favour of Paxtan coz that's how the narrative is constructed in the western media.

As far as the ordinary Indian is concerned he's completely aware that we've had Paxtan by the scruff of their neck . What he'd be angry about is Leaderji letting them off when we could've probably finished them or maximised the damages !

Coming to the Rafale if it was truly brought down , it's important to know the circumstances in which it occurred.

To repeat myself if it has indeed been brought down by the HQ IADS system or the J-10CE + PL-15 combination then it's not good going for these aren't front line systems as far as the Chinese go whereas the Rafale is our tip of the spear when facing up to the PAF or PLAAF .

It brings into question their semi stealth characteristics especially SPECTRA which is touted to be the best EW suite available outside of the US perhaps next to the EW suite of the F-35.

This also happens to be one of the principal selling points of the Rafale & one of the main reasons the IAF preferred it over the Eurofighter for PURELY in terms of aerodynamics the Eurofighter is a better FA than the Rafale .

One question, did IAF conduct sufficient SEAD/DEAD ops before they did the strikes on terror hubs on 7th may, because to me it seems like their initial goal was to just strike those 9 spots and return, it its the case then that would explain why we lost any airframes. We did conduct SEAD ops after this incident with drones and Standoff missiles.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1924123117745533422

 

[Tumba]

Had the operation gone on for any longer, it would 100% be a war. Those runways would and hangars could get further fucked to the point that Pakis would have to operate their air assets as far behind as from Quetta to stand a chance at doing anything. We had them by the balls, there's no sugarcoating it. As much as a lot of people love to shit on the IAF for it's horrendous procurement strategies (myself included), it has invested in a very potent rocket force and air defence system. Credit where it is due.

Quetta, Gwadar nothing is out of reach a MKI flying over 100 kms inside can launch in Hi Hi Lo mode and it can reach any location inside pakistan, nothing is out of reach.

pakis air force would not be safe unless they run some foreign nation which they would have done eventually

 

[Azaad]

I have a hunch that Spectra is probably not as good as it is being advertised to be or it may become less effective in the future given the advent of AESA seekers in BVR missiles.(the PL15 I believe has an AESA seeker). We may have to look at augmenting its capabilities by carrying external jamming pods.

Another idea might be to have dedicated EW aircrafts like the Growler accompany them on the mission to provide escort jamming. But not really sure if that's ever going to happen given how the state of IAF's much more basic and essential AEW procurement is.

And in future if IAF does decide to procure more rafales, we'll be mostly likely be paying an eye-watering ~$300M a bird. Since it anyway lacks structural stealth, if the digital stealth capabilities are not as good, then it just isn't worth it. Only the IAF knows its capabilties.

Dassault was supposed to have undertaken the upgrade to GaN based AESA under their F4 upgrade program which they've rescheduled now as part of the F5 upgrade which is a massive H/w & S/w upgrade along with a brand new TF , new avionics , massive upgrade to SPECTRA ( as per the French members in Strat Front ) , a new data link , MUM-T with the nEUROn , etc scheduled for 2030 , with F4 now being restricted to only S/w upgrades.

Dassault chief Trappier outlines roadmap for F5-standard Rafale

Dassault Aviation's planned F5-standard Rafale fighter will have more powerful engines, improved survivability and data links, and will be accompanied by an unmanned combat air vehicle (UCAV) weighing more than 10t, according to the French airframer's chief executive.

www.flightglobal.com

This IMO is a huge setback for us . The alternative would be we approach Dassault & offer to fund part of the development of the GaN based AESA radar system , which we should've done 2 years ago when this news was out . I don't think I need to tell you how the penny pinching babooos of MoD & our equally money minded PM would respond to this .

 

[Azaad]

One question, did IAF conduct sufficient SEAD/DEAD ops before they did the strikes on terror hubs on 7th may,

We didn't.

because to me it seems like their initial goal was to just strike those 9 spots and return, it its the case then that would explain why we lost any airframes. We did conduct SEAD ops after this incident with drones and Standoff missiles.

 

[Cheepek]

View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1924123117745533422

Giving trauma to pakis

 

[Darth Malgus]

Note that 11 airbases were targeted. We only have images from 3-4 Pakistani airbases. Many of the targets have not been revealed by either the PAF or the IAF. IAF because we don't have direct video evidence of the strikes taken by locals. This is basically Kargil 2.0. Pakistanis will slowly and steadily come around in a few years and accept they got their asses kicked.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

View: https://x.com/westerncomd_ia/status/1924129896781209637?s=46

 

[Numero]

To those who really think Chini lizards have made a 5th gen fighter jet that even Russia is struggling with.


View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1924039564663857309?t=y8Ll7vDAWH66deBKwCzTsg&s=19

This on the other hand is serious and we should raise cost for lungis for attempting this.


View: https://x.com/MumbaichaDon/status/1924066682110156945?t=t3slbYR3KLX3iLWf4DFtJg&s=19

There's nothing within Bangladesh's capacity that they can use against India. Doesn't matter how many shits they get. It's a landlocked deprived nation that couldn't even afford to run without bailouts, let alone having jets to counter India.
Keyboard warriors are driven by social media sensation.

 

[MasterChief]

It was a bilateral treaty facilitated by World Bank,

It was based on premise of “Goodwill and Frienship”

Which was never practiced by pakistan,

India doesnt recognise any international courts and specially for bilateral matters India doesnt give a fck.

IWT in all practical purposes is trashed now, work is already started to build more capacity on existing dams.

Probably China will go to Permanent court of Arbitration like South China sea case.. or ICJ..
But we can act like China and refuse to recognise their jurisdiction

 

[ThE BrOkEn HeArT]

View: https://x.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1924138377260978242?t=1kY52Z-cfouXj0-JzRCvRA&s=19

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

There's nothing within Bangladesh's capacity that they can use against India. Doesn't matter how many shits they get. It's a landlocked deprived nation that couldn't even afford to run without bailouts, let alone having jets to counter India.
Keyboard warriors are driven by social media sensation.

This base will be at the receiving end of 100s of missile at short notice. I would like to see what is future for kangalus , given their chaddi baniyan industry get obliterated.

 

[ThE BrOkEn HeArT]

View: https://x.com/westerncomd_IA/status/1924129896781209637?t=AoHzIKUE59kb7ynneY9iXg&s=19

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

No single AD system can effective for all kinds of threats, you need to tackle each threat separately , thats why we saw IACCS succeed and HQ-9 fail. without a powerful system of integrated Air surveillance command, any defense system is incomplete, matter of fact is pakis can't maintain such system, drones proved effective in cucking their entire AD network.

Good thing for us, we're maturing rapidly in AD department ,mainly because of how far our Missile and radar tech has come, DRDO is quite good in these two things specifically. Project kusha , combined with DEW based anti-drone system is will be backbone of our future airborne operations.

 

[Nicky]

There's nothing within Bangladesh's capacity that they can use against India. Doesn't matter how many shits they get. It's a landlocked deprived nation that couldn't even afford to run without bailouts, let alone having jets to counter India.
Keyboard warriors are driven by social media sensation.

We should really working on regime change in this shithole.

Look at the temirity of the father of this vile cu*t. Arrest him and put dandda where the sun doesn't shine.


View: https://x.com/IndiaWarMonitor/status/1924042338038390851?t=kWzgCoPocRm_xHo4plb8TQ&s=19

 

[Miss Firing]

Inbred head banging NaPaki terrorist gutter beggar -

Pakistan cricketer Akmal makes provocative statement on PM Modi: 'One person putting India on the line for his politics’​

Pakistan cricketer Akmal makes provocative statement on PM Modi: 'One person putting India on the line for his politics’

Former Pakistan cricketers Kamran Akmal and Basit Ali appeared were panelists on a show hosted by Waseem Badami on ARY News, with Badami going to the extent of describing Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi as a “fool playing with the future of a billion people'.

www.firstpost.com

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You shameless two faced inbred goat shagger, your military has been eating all your money. Worry about that

 

[MasterChief]

Operation Sindoor is only paused for now

IAF obviously does not want porki & cheeni radar specialists to currently know if they shot down actual fighter jets or just decoys. Without this knowledge, they can`t update their databases to refine threat identification

This confusion will be useful if GOI decides to reactivate the operation. Porkis will be forced to fire SAMs at every target painted by leftover radars, many of which will turnout out to be towed decoys or Banshees

Also.. hope GOI declares that a "major terror attack" with foreign links will be considered an act of war..deserving a hit on Pakistani military.

IAF used HAMMER to hit Terrorist bases on 7th May accurately with minimum collateral damage.. Limited range of Hammer meant IAF fighters like Rafale had to get really close to the border (also confirmed in an article).. RULES of Engagement by Modi meant that IAF couldn't fire first at Pak aircraft or Air defense, as Government had already declared that we will hit only terrorists.. PAF like during Swift retort were explicitly allowed to hit Indian military aircraft.. IAF bravehearts still went ahead with one hand tied.. and Modi was really lucky that none of the pilots died, else it would have been on him..

Also, PAF like all previous wars like 1971 and 1965 went on to a defensive stance once ROEs were revised and IAF could hit PAF assets ..

 

[fire starter]

45cm target.

View: https://x.com/rajfortyseven/status/1923353633694896259?t=JT4i1mwStP2GRCFsQfqhZw&s=19

 

[iNorthernerOn9]

People who consistently bring up Kangladesh on this thread or other with reference to the perceived increase in their military might and as a future threat... may have never seen the actual map of Kangladesh... this is map of Kangladesh... 100s of rivers and "most" of them don't have concrete bridges(necessary for heavy vehicular movement)... it means bangladeshi military has to follow a snakes & ladders pattern of movement to reach their frontiers.



To defeat Bangladesh we won't even need to target their military assets... just bomb 15-20 main bridges and all of the kanglu grand plans will come to a grinding halt.

 

[MasterChief]

One question, did IAF conduct sufficient SEAD/DEAD ops before they did the strikes on terror hubs on 7th may, because to me it seems like their initial goal was to just strike those 9 spots and return, it its the case then that would explain why we lost any airframes. We did conduct SEAD ops after this incident with drones and Standoff missiles.

And the tragedy is that even after Operation swift retort when PAF fired on IAF aircraft first.. Modi still had rules of engagement that forbid IAF from engaging Pakistan military first..
We are just lucky that IAF pilots didn't lose lives..