Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

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The top management itself has said that this is the age on IW. So why give out a tidbit that, to an ordinary person, will seem is one thing but has more "profound" meaning on a deeper level. Should not communication be clear & crisp, unless ofc, everything he said has been vetted by the highest civilian authority for reasons that would become apparent in the coming days/weeks/months.

outside of deliberate gaslighters who have political motives, public generally learns and adapts to new realities.

look up high concepts and low concepts. even our cinema wallahs apply this in their stories.
 
I think what many of us are disappointed and perhaps angry is not because CDS chose to confirm our jets were downed (though tbf he said A jet was down, which means singular and bloomberg intentionally ran with unspecified numbers), he chose to give the info to foreign anti India rags instead of our own. The result - all the operational successes which have collaborated satelite imageries go for a toss and they are running with confirmation of downed Indian jets and showing that specific part of the clip.

If he did choose to do it in front of foreign media then he chose to give a straightforward answer and discussed about tactical mistakes, the exact kind of statements they were looking for. Are our military officers that naive? Couldn't he stuck to the official line of few weeks ago that we will release the details at the right time? Reuters and bloomberg were running articles and new stories how PAF downed 5 of our jets, couldn't he counter questioned them about on what evidence they were running those propaganda pieces? He had a good chance to expose them instead he was letting them know about the events which even our media have not been made privy to.


Also what's up with these praising Pak military as some rational and professional force? Have you ever heard a single military general or top ranking officer of theirs mention anything remotely good about ours? They kill our civilians through their terror proxies, intentionally target our civilians and even places of worship, threaten nukes at the drop of a hat and yet they are somehow a rational force. We never ever learn. Remember Kargil, when their subhuman army refused to take back the dead bodies of their men and instead we were recommending gallantry awards for their men. IIRC in all the wars with us they have never acknowledged or recommended any of our soldiers for their bravery while we might have done multiple times. Once I had a discussion with a Paki who was trumpeting this fact saying their soldier"s bravery is even acknowledged by the enemy and letting me know the reason Pak military have never done the same to us is because they couldn't find a single instance of bravery from our side. That's the mindset they have, from their top generals all the way down to their poorest.
We need more of our military leaders to have mentality of someone like General GD Bakshi. His analysis of Paki army has always been spot on.
 
CDS's responses were academic like actually discussing in an academic discourse where you show traits of sportsmanship and generally discuss things in good faith and objectively. But I agree the platform should not have been the interviews to these outlets first.
Even in the 1971 war video somebody shared where the the Col of the Swines was clear he wanted to kill the enemy whereas our Indian Army chap was sporty and said he did not hate pakistan or their soldier and loved a good fight and was surprised when the Pigs killed our unarmed captured soldiers. We have to come out of this gentleman's mindset for the Pigs.

Also what's up with these praising Pak military as some rational and professional force? Have you ever heard a single military general or top ranking officer of theirs mention anything remotely good about ours? They kill our civilians through their terror proxies, intentionally target our civilians and even places of worship, threaten nukes at the drop of a hat and yet they are somehow a rational force. We never ever learn. Remember Kargil, when their subhuman army refused to take back the dead bodies of their men and instead we were recommending gallantry awards for their men. IIRC in all the wars with us they have never acknowledged or recommended any of our soldiers for their bravery while we might have done multiple times. Once I had a discussion with a Paki who was trumpeting this fact saying their soldier"s bravery is even acknowledged by the enemy and letting me know the reason Pak military have never done the same to us is because they couldn't find a single instance of bravery from our side. That's the mindset they have, from their top generals all the way down to their poorest.
We need more of our military leaders to have mentality of someone like General GD Bakshi. His analysis of Paki army has always been spot on.

Indian Hindu secular upbringing versus Pakistani Muslim supremacist upbringing
 
Indian Hindu secular upbringing versus Pakistani Muslim supremacist upbringing
Indian Army should be renamed as Indian secular forces
Like pak army is Pak a and forces
If India doesn't imposes Hindu supremacy now our future position would be weaker than this with a much larger economy and green population
 
When someone is preparing for JEE ADVANCED, to get in cse IIT Bombay were seat is limited to 35 for open category and only top 35 CLR is needed criteria to which you need a score of 320+ out of 360, however tough the paper in terms of lengthy calculation, out of syllabus questions. Students prepare from all point of view, and he or she has zero chance to do tactical mistake....

And here we are warplaning and we know what happened in 2019, what were the loopholes, still we go in such fashion were we do tactical mistake, is blunder in terms of IIT preparation parallance...
 
Indian Army should be renamed as Indian secular forces
Like pak army is Pak a and forces
If India doesn't imposes Hindu supremacy now our future position would be weaker than this with a much larger economy and green population
Indian Hindu secular upbringing versus Pakistani Muslim supremacist upbringing
Yes our schools and universities are breeding grounds for woke and anti hindu ideologies but even in NDA its not much better.
 
Yes our schools and universities are breeding grounds for woke and anti hindu ideologies but even in NDA its not much better.
Then indian institutions must be taken care of first
Judiciary must be the first one to be purged because they would block any move by government to bring any reform
We don't wanna become like Islamist hellhole but we need to become more based in indic warrior tradition rather than the bullshit that we have now
 
My fren, asked me about this interview.
I told him what he said , bless his heart he said , ki " proof pe baat karte nai behen ke l...e". about bloomers .
His basic line of argument was kya proof haj ?
I told him kaake, kaboolna hi proof hai.
Tu ye to dekh kaboola kisne hai !
BRo understood finally why I was angry .
 
Stop Coping mate

You don't need a Crane and Cordon to retrieve a Drone Wreckage at Bathinda

3 Jets is minimum ( Tom Cooper thinks it might be more than 4 )
Some of the drones are quite large. Have you stood next to an MQ9B? Possible that aircrafts went down, but where those transport aircraft’s, jets, UAVs, drop tanks, or older MiGs used as decoys?. Do we know anything? If high value aircraft did go down, why then use a fake picture of Rafael with BS001 marking? Why would the CDS deny Pakistan’s shoot down of 6 jets? Too many open questions.
 
That RSS thing was for domestic consumption. They did manage to build a narrative in west that Pakistan is terror supporting state (although it was helped by Pakistan housing Al-qaida operatives itself).

Congressis do have lot of personal relationships in western media and among other liberal political parties in the west. What does BJP have ? Is there one international media that is pro BJP ? Have they been able to create an international media to create a narrative ? All their so called international media efforts are also directed towards getting vote domestically.
Generally media is left wing. Right wing media has now become a force in the USA but not in Europe or elsewhere.
 
Sensible, but there should have been a very strongly worded post interview indictment of Bloomberg, that would be very visible or audible. Accusing them, rightly, of being obsessed with revealing Indian losses, to the eclusion of everything else!
That should of course read " to the exclusion of everything else"

I am wondering if someone in the government, military or media could make a measured yet emphatic statement about the behaviour of the international media, large sections of it, during this war. Suggest that they make Pakistan the base of their correspondence, not India. Or perhaps some other country in the neighbourhood. Mention their qualities like negative, disdainful, supercilious, sensational, imbalanced, then advise them that perhaps that they should set up shop in some country other than India. It's overdue that someone make a statement to this effect.
 
Opposition is absolutely right in questioning government.. When we are lead by incompetent fools opposition should pitch in ask for accountability
Its not opposition fault that government has chosen a grade 1 stupid man for such a high post
The only issue here is opposition is every more stupid ones like top class ones . going on splitting the country in the name of caste . language. tax spend and all nonsense . a sensible opposition would have been more helpful one for the functioning of democracy not this clown circus ones we have . who keep absolute mum on murshidabad or any other issues and only scream their lungs out if it suits their narrative ..
 
Then indian institutions must be taken care of first
Judiciary must be the first one to be purged because they would block any move by government to bring any reform
We don't wanna become like Islamist hellhole but we need to become more based in indic warrior tradition rather than the bullshit that we have now
Easier said than done. Any single paragraph addition/deletion in school textbooks become national news that govt is changing history. People are product of their times. Our people has been brainwashed into this sickular mindset where every Hindu tradition is backwards and toxic. It was also drilled into our minds from young age that Gandhi single handedly won us freedom and all the Muslims stayed back because of loyalty and rejection of Jinnah. Now in the age of social media the young impressionably minds are poisoned by leftist and Islamist propaganda. Unless and until Hindus unite under a common identity and vote and show street power accordingly nothing's gonna change much, even if BJP is in power for another decade.

Hindus show of strength is according to their castes and even for their region but never for their Hindu identity. Even in the language wars our people get into its always the H vs H. Have you seen a single M sitting in Chennai/Bangalore/Trichy arguing with another M in Law cknow/Delhi arguing about Tamil or Malyalam vs Urdu? Since they only care about their M identity and Urdu is lingua franca of subcontinental Ms they will never bad mouth it. And here we couldn't do the same for Sanskrit.
 
Like what? They got outranged in 2019 by AMRAAM, they got outranged in 2025 by the PL-15. They still are struggling with AEW&CS fleet and Meteors not yet integrated/under integration. People don't understand paki doctrine... for them it is "shoot down any Indian asset by any chance" just for the sake of PR. They lobbed half a dozen AMRAAMs only to score one kill. They must've lobbed a similar number to get 2-3 aircrafts down since 3-4 are recovered.




If pakis don't retaliate (which they obviously will) then well and good, if they do then we will go up the escalation ladder.

Paki doctrine is focussing more on air to air combat coz that sells in their awaam, our focus is in A2/AD. Only way to properly humiliate them would be visible aircraft losses while none on our side, or loss of territory. Otherwise you can flatten up a quarter of karachi and they will still kang on victory by shooting down some other fighter plane, especially Rafale or Tejas (for obvious reasons).


Terrorism won't end unless their military is decapitated by loss of important assets.
Absolutely pin point they have not put all their investment in doing only one thing , Get a single jet shot down and then there is nothing to worry about even if 100 places inside our country gets hit . they will claim victory . when you know they are waiting only just to bring an aircraft down and do nothing else . we should have first bombed their AD and bases or we could have done this entire operation using CMs why even waste aircrafts the same hit could have done using brahmos tooo

ROE fucks us and will always fucks us because we are trying to play under the rule book set by our masters

Paki pigs don't care a shit about anything they will even fire a BM and chill as if they did nothing wrong

when you are dealing with a Mad Wild Boar the only way you can come out is killing it

we should have ran the missile campaign and strikes on bases for another 48 hours more and bombed mulitple missiles on single hangars instead of doing just piece meal action which can be visible in a satellite image which pakis will claim nothing was hit and clear up after few days ..

Visible and documented Humiliation is the only thing Pakis have proven to understand based on our past experiences then why change ROE now for these pigs
 
Easier said than done. Any single paragraph addition/deletion in school textbooks become national news that govt is changing history. People are product of their times. Our people has been brainwashed into this sickular mindset where every Hindu tradition is backwards and toxic. It was also drilled into our minds from young age that Gandhi single handedly won us freedom and all the Muslims stayed back because of loyalty and rejection of Jinnah. Now in the age of social media the young impressionably minds are poisoned by leftist and Islamist propaganda. Unless and until Hindus unite under a common identity and vote and show street power accordingly nothing's gonna change much, even if BJP is in power for another decade.

Hindus show of strength is according to their castes and even for their region but never for their Hindu identity. Even in the language wars our people get into its always the H vs H. Have you seen a single M sitting in Chennai/Bangalore/Trichy arguing with another M in Law cknow/Delhi arguing about Tamil or Malyalam vs Urdu? Since they only care about their M identity and Urdu is lingua franca of subcontinental Ms they will never bad mouth it. And here we couldn't do the same for Sanskrit.
India has a flawed secularism.

It should go pure Attaturk if it has to develop

Laikik is the way.

Scientific temperament needs religion to take backseat.

Muslims will also lose thier religion like Turks and central asians.

By advocating Hindu Rashtra.

You are falling for the Hindu Pakistan narrative trap.
 
The one thing I have to agree with almost everyone here is why not in India but in Singapore? Why now? Why Bloomberg or Reuters? Is it because of the international reach? Why not first post? Why not DD India? It does not make sense. That is what everyone is asking from Twitter to here. Was some kind of deal struck with Paki CDS to make some revelations to calm the masses? Why?
 
got it.
Now we just need to wait for all hindu men to join military.

pretty sure you are joining military since this is your plan, right?
Have you expanded your ambit of going after anyone from Modi to now...everyone appointed by him? 😅

Literally, is anyone being criticised not going to be defended by you as long as they're even tangentially close to BJP?
 
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