Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

[Muzh]

Dude I think you are still underestimating how expensive Patriots are. A single missile launch costs $4 f*cking million. That is more expensive than any Indian missile in arsenal, except of of course Agni IRBM & ICBM. No one is giving Pakis that much money. And I don't think I need to remind you how many missiles one needs to launch during interception.

Bro, Europeans & Americans are struggling to supply Patriot systems and missiles to even Ukraine, the current darling of the west. How do you think that they will supply equipment worth $7.5-10 billion (a single Patriot system is very much insufficient for Pakis) to Pakis? They didn't gift this much even during War on Terror time in 2000s. May be the last such alm to the beggars was during USSR invasion of Afghanistan and its aftermath when they gifted F-16s.

As I said, Pakis would literally go bankrupt in acquisition, operation & maintenance of Patriots.

I personally do not think Pakistan would receive Patriots. I also know that in order to be effective, a large number of batteries is needed. Even Ukraine is facing this problem -- insufficient batteries.

I was simply providing information on how Pakistan finances its weapons' purchase. The financial aid they receive is used to pay for the salaries of staff and procurement of the weapons, among other things.

 

[Zoid Raptor]

View: https://x.com/AjayshreeSamby3/status/1921544185028460830

And many more

• Expedite the development of Project Kusha
• Order 500 each of 52 cal MGS and 39 cal MaRG along with a few Garuda105 from Kalyani to begin with for both paki and chinki front
• Scrap Stryker for good and order Whap variants in large numbers
• Turkey has committed $3-5B for it's TF-35000 engine while South Korea is investing $2.3B for its KF-21 Boramae program. While we select some partner like RR/Safran in the interim, GoI/MoD/IAF should commit ~$5B for the Kaveri program
• Since the missiles dept is one of DRDO's best arm, develop an indigenous alternative for every foreign missile we've used or considered using in the recent conflict along with fastracking the development of existing missiles like Astra-III, Gandiva, SFDR, Rudram-II etc
• Develop and upgrade existing Akash systems to Akash-NG/Prime along with Akashteer Integrated Air Defense Network
• Given the pivotal role of drones in modern warfare, Bhargavastra anti-drone system is the need of the hour
• 156 Prachand are simply not enough and the existing orders will require Helina ATGM
• Pinaka-III with a range in-excess of 300km to counter PLA's forward command structures and most of paki land will be within range
• Loitering munitions like Nagastra along with UAVs/UCAVs like Archer, Ghatak, Tapas etc

 

[crazywithmath]

View attachment 35864View attachment 35865View attachment 35866View attachment 35867Screen shots for bhatida crash dekh ke batao bhai log

First pic is old.

Coming to the other pic, too many theories floating on social media. Things will get clear in the coming days.

 

[gyan]

Still uncontrite in your posts, you are messaging in 'Hinglish' on a defence forum.

@LETHALFORCE @Blademaster

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Dude read the pib report first .in that report it is clearly stated that all pl15 were jammed and We saw 2 day of bvr fight .Morning of may 7 and night of 9th may till 10th morning and pib reported the incident from 7 to 8 may so pl15 were jammed in morning of 7 .so my friend who is more concern about my hinglish plz tell me which missile hits the aircraft

 

[JTP]

No the point of Rafale or any another jet crash from IAF is not about the loss of that jet , But more about what did porki pigs have in their inventory which has brought down those jets , If i rafale has been shot down then i am more curious to know what brought it down then worrying about the crashed jet , remember if they have something up against your silver bullet of airforce and keeps those 35 jets away from the conflict then we are going to face really hard challenges in air battles in future .

No one is crying here about the crash all every one wants to know or the ones curious is what brought it down the AAM, SAM or your own BAM (blue on blue )

This ! This is exactly what concerns me but I was supremely insulted by getting called a Pakistani. I mean.. call me any thing but Pakistani? Yuck !

We certainly have some gaps which could be either technology (vs PL 15) or operations strategy or might be the operational restraint (No DEAD) due to which our fighters have been shot down. Need to fill them up quickly before the next action. Given the new baseline, I don't see a war too far away. I completely trust Pakistan on continuing its terror operations against India and I also completely trust that Modi will do what he has said when a terror attack happens next.

 

[Nibbler]

This ! This is exactly what concerns me but I was supremely insulted by getting called a Pakistani. I mean.. call me any thing but Pakistani? Yuck !

We certainly have some gaps which could be either technology (vs PL 15) or operations strategy or might be the operational restraint (No DEAD) due to which our fighters have been shot down. Need to fill them up quickly before the next action. Given the new baseline, I don't see a war too far away. I completely trust Pakistan on continuing its terror operations against India and I also completely trust that Modi will do what he has said when a terror attack happens next.

You are obviously a pakistani

Go pick your dead bodies up lmao

 

[LETHALFORCE]

This ! This is exactly what concerns me but I was supremely insulted by getting called a Pakistani. I mean.. call me any thing but Pakistani? Yuck !

We certainly have some gaps which could be either technology (vs PL 15) or operations strategy or might be the operational restraint (No DEAD) due to which our fighters have been shot down. Need to fill them up quickly before the next action. Given the new baseline, I don't see a war too far away. I completely trust Pakistan on continuing its terror operations against India and I also completely trust that Modi will do what he has said when a terror attack happens next.

how is PL-15 a gap in technology if :
1) Briefing said most missed their target completely or were duds did not explode??
a non-factor

2) if the planes cannot get close enough to shoot the from fear of being shot down??


View: https://x.com/Defencematrix1/status/1922533254575292752

 

[Hari Sud]

India and Pakistan Talked Big, but Satellite Imagery Shows Limited Damage

While the attacks were widespread, the damage was far more contained than both sides claimed.

www.nytimes.com

Mujib Mashal an anti Indian reporter hired by NYT after their advertisement to hire an anti India reporter went viral. They found a Muslim Mujib Mashal as the reporter. He is better tuned into Pakistan than India.

 

[gyan]

In this report pib stated the event day by day but concerns me most the causality of paf which is 50+in this report and this figure is clearly from paki twitter or kia or and wia both counted may be

https://www.pib.gov.in/PressReleseDetailm.aspx?PRID=2128748

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Mujib Mashal an anti Indian reporter hired by NYT after their advertisement to hire an anti India reporter went viral. They found a Muslim Mujib Mashal as the reporter. He is better tuned into Pakistan than India.

This is one of the worst newspapers around, I really don't even know too many people who
read print anymore? people get their news most from internet. This is a legacy mouthpiece
staying alive from being funded by places with agendas.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

View: https://x.com/MithilaWaala/status/1920714688842616942

a full intact missile launched from the air . .LOL

 

[JTP]

how is PL-15 a gap in technology if :
1) Briefing said most missed their target completely or were duds did not explode??
a non-factor

2) if the planes cannot get close enough to shoot the from fear of being shot down??


View: https://x.com/Defencematrix1/status/1922533254575292752

1. I probably missed that part of the briefing but if it was said that "Most missed their targets'', it means some connected. I presume we too fired a lot of AAMs at them and a few connected bringing down at least 2 and probably 5-6 of theirs. Thats how AA engagements happen. Most BVRs do not connect.

2. PL is reported to have a range of 200-300kms (domestic version). If this is true and has good radar tech then it is a headache. I always thought meteor had the longest range for an A-A missile that shoots down other fighter sized ACs.

 

[gyan]

View: https://x.com/MithilaWaala/status/1920714688842616942

a full intact missile launched from the air . .LOL

Did you see any ejection seat in bhatinda .in case of jammu it was forest so people might not go there for ejection seat but in bhatinda it was open field but nobody saw any sign of ejection seat .i heard 4 interviews of news no local saw ejection seat and the people were not sleeping at that time because they were taking care of the field(the guy who died was working in the field and from haryana).so i am confused in bhatinda case and all the news channel were reporting as unidentified aircarft.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

1. I probably missed that part of the briefing but if it was said that "Most missed their targets'', it means some connected. I presume we too fired a lot of AAMs at them and a few connected bringing down at least 2 and probably 5-6 of theirs. Thats how AA engagements happen. Most BVRs do not connect.

2. PL is reported to have a range of 200-300kms (domestic version). If this is true and has good radar tech then it is a headache. I always thought meteor had the longest range for an A-A missile that shoots down other fighter sized ACs.

And you believe everything claimed about PL-15 missile after seeing how ineffective they
really are?

 

[Muzh]

This is one of the worst newspapers around, I really don't even know too many people who
read print anymore? people get their news most from internet. This is a legacy mouthpiece
staying alive from being funded by places with agendas.

I think they deliver news through internet these days. Maybe they still deliver through print.

The New York Times - Breaking News, US News, World News and Videos

Live news, investigations, opinion, photos and video by the journalists of The New York Times from more than 150 countries around the world. Subscribe for coverage of U.S. and international news, politics, business, technology, science, health, arts, sports and more.

www.nytimes.com

 

[LETHALFORCE]

I think they deliver news through internet these days. Maybe they still deliver through print.

The New York Times - Breaking News, US News, World News and Videos

Live news, investigations, opinion, photos and video by the journalists of The New York Times from more than 150 countries around the world. Subscribe for coverage of U.S. and international news, politics, business, technology, science, health, arts, sports and more.

www.nytimes.com

They are not a news source that anyone i know goes to first. This is a legacy newspaper
which will eventually close shop after funding ceases. When I was little there were only 3 channels
where i lived (upstate NY) NBC,ABC,CBS all three were the only news source. Do you know anyone that really watches them today?? Or get news from them?? My kids and relatives don't even watch ANY
news and joke about me still watching or reading it.

 

[Muzh]

They are not a news source that anyone i know goes to first. This is a legacy newspaper
which will eventually close shop after funding ceases. When I was little there were only 3 channels
where i lived (upstate NY) NBC,ABC,CBS all three were the only news source. Do you know anyone that really watches them today?? Or get news from them?? My kids and relatives don't even watch ANY
news and joke about me still watching or reading it.

Nope I think they are agenda driven news outlet. Therefore, it warrants to call them a propaganda outlet. It is weird that this newspaper takes so much interest in India related issues. It suggest that people who finance it have an axe to grind with India.

 

[Vinash]

Dekh ke batao bhai log kon sa jet hai

Banned for 1 month.

This account is more interested in going out of the way to post possible crashes. Also posts like a low IQ Desi mulla.

 

[Vinash]

Warning to Blackpillers:

Jets are merely tools. Losing a Jet isn't the end of the world. When you go on the offensive, you'll inevitably lose some equipment. Only a low IQ Chutiya would expect no losses on an offensive of the scale we did. Hitting 11 Air bases isn't normal, it's a humongous achievement.


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