Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

username unkown said:
Calm down guys that pl15 with jf 17 post was porki it handle it claims pl 15 range to be 200 km where chinease themselves caim it to be 140-148km sometihing and thease numbers are over exaggeration all of the time so actual range might be 120-130 km which is no match for meteor

And that bvr missile was looking more similar to pl12 as it pl 12 some one confirm i could be wrong

If that is pl 15 in jf 17 than it won't be able to guide it without awacs as its air cooled radar it won't be detecting anything
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The no of platform s from which the missile can be fired also matter s
They have 26 j10c
And jf17 blk3 number s are unknown,might be 50+
 
so , rafale is one thing. what else do we have on air to air fight against pl 15e ?
and what about the aesa radar ? sorry , havent been much active until recently
 
jaishrikrishna said:
The gap does not change like that. Before 1971 war, Paki saw themselves equal or superior. After 1971, the gap widened.

No fight, gap will not change.
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Wrong diagnosis. We were an assistance to Eastern Pakistan. Eastern pakistan already wanted a separation we helped them. If their was no separatism in East and West Pakistan we could not have achieved it. Punjabi pigs messed it up. They still in previous wars have extracted heavy price from us.


So, Don't draw wrong conclusions from it. So, We need to prepare similar conditions in present day map.



About gap, the gap can be increased either by we gain more weight or we lighten the enemy. In 1971 we got the opportunity to lighten the enemy. We untill, had slight more weight than pigs but pigs could absorb more blows. So from battle perspective pigs and us were near parity upto 1971. Thats why we had multiple wars with them upto that year. In 1971 Eastern Pakistan decided to separate. It was a golden oppurtunity for us. So, yes going for it was the need of hour. We just didn't show up and cut up the Pig. We can't at our wish do it. Today is not that condition in Pig country. Yes some pigs are dissatisfied but they are not yet entrenched. So, we can't lighten the pig without wasting significant weight of our own.

Now, Post 1971 Pigs were no longer existential threat to us. We had the definite upper hand against them.

In present day, our existential threat comes from dragon not from pigs. Pigs are now playing second fiddle to the dragon. The dragon is using the pigs to lighten us for them. Pigs know it and they are more than happy to oblige. We don't have that urgency now to go after pig. We can on our own without doing anything will overtime gain more and more weight. This battle is about relevance of pig to their master Dragon. For us its not. So, there is no point on going head to head with pigs. We gave the decisive blow in 1971 let the pigs cry in corner. Let them sulk. Let us not give them extra attention and definitely not waste our strength on an enemy whom we can always trample on. They are no longer an existential threat, Dragon is and do not forget it. Keep our focussed sight on gaining enough deterrence weight against the dragon.

Thats why i say 2030. A lot of our technologies will mature by that time. We would be able to give credible deterrence to Dragon in post 2030 world. We may not win the dragon but we will be capable enough to give it a blow which will allow uncle sam opening again.

There are two levels of gameplay now.
Dragon vs Eagle. Both of them can go head to head but India can tip the scale. If we aligh with eagle, dragon will be confined. It can't take Eagle and the Garud head on. So it needs to clip the Garuda's wings. Whom to outsource it well the pigs. Pigs can do their job in just this 5 year period after that it will be hard to clip the wings of garuda.

So, the game is not between Pig and the Tiger. It is between Eagle and the Dragon and the Garuda is theatre.

We are the theatre and the proxy battlefield. Let us not give them it. There is a reason why suddenly PBM and Congress and Pigs want to go us on war. They smell the blood. Hindu blood.
 
Corvus Splendens said:
Pakis are not member of MTCR, their missiles don't go 200km. Putting a 200km range missile on the Jeff is pointless because it doesn't track and lock anywhere near that range, neither it can run radar for extended time because of it's air cooled architecture.
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Again, I've argued this in DFI many times that DPRM PL-15s are not intended to hit a highly manouvering target like fighter jets. It is the Choynese solution to hit enemy force multipliers like AWACS and Refuellers and is hailed as the best missile and alien ship killers only by stupid porks and wumao propogandists. The guiding fin design doesn't allow much drag that is sufficient to perform a high G manouver(especially looking at the length of the missile).
 
Are porky jeff Blunders even equipped with PL15 ? Most of the sources use morphed and edited pics. Chongs wont integrate their top of the line missile with Blunder considering that it will hamper their J10CE sales to Porkistan and rest of prospective customers.

username unkown said:
Calm down guys that pl15 with jf 17 post was porki it handle it claims pl 15 range to be 200 km where chinease themselves caim it to be 140-148km sometihing and thease numbers are over exaggeration all of the time so actual range might be 120-130 km which is no match for meteor

And that bvr missile was looking more similar to pl12 as it pl 12 some one confirm i could be wrong

If that is pl 15 in jf 17 than it won't be able to guide it without awacs as its air cooled radar it won't be detecting anything
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I hope members here have mercy on people who are looking for new information or any new kind analyses about the present situation whether it's military or economically speaking. It is becoming tiring to scroll page after page with same information and few lines of nothing comments.

So I was just checking out their military arsenal mainly air force and navy. Most of F-16s have become old. Lot of them are above 20 years and some even 30 years. Without Uncle Sam's cooperation it is impossible to keep them in flying condition. Since the days of Uncle Sam giving freebies is over, Porkis every now and then strike a deal for spare parts, missiles, and some small upgrades of their F-16s. Recently, Trump did approve $400 million for F-16 fleet maintenance. Since it is very recent you can bet this will take a long time to upgrade them.

With respect to their Chinese weapons, none of them were given for free including recently bought J-10s. With the failure of CPEC where Chinese have sunk billions with no hope for recovery anytime soon, you can bet given their stinginess they will not part with single cent to Porki scum. All the missiles like P-15, P-10 they are supplying to them are for a big price.

Coming to the present, remember this important point. Porki scum have no manufacturing base. Every time they fire a expensive missile like AIM-120 from F-16, P-15 from J17 or J-10, their bank balance would be draining at the rate of minimum $1 million - $2 million when they press fire. Same applies to their navy as well. Their military have been built up during good times when US and China were little generous. If India takes out their aircrafts mainly F-16, JF-17, J-10, submarines, ships etc, it will set them back by 20-30 years. There is no free lunch in today's world. Their stockpile of missiles used by their air force and navy might barely last for a week of combat.
 
concard said:
I hope members here have mercy on people who are looking for new information or any new kind analyses about the present situation whether it's military or economically speaking. It is becoming tiring to scroll page after page with same information and few lines of nothing comments.

So I was just checking out their military arsenal mainly air force and navy. Most of F-16s have become old. Lot of them are above 20 years and some even 30 years. Without Uncle Sam's cooperation it is impossible to keep them in flying condition. Since the days of Uncle Sam giving freebies is over, Porkis every now and then strike a deal for spare parts, missiles, and some small upgrades of their F-16s. Recently, Trump did approve $400 million for F-16 fleet maintenance. Since it is very recent you can bet this will take a long time to upgrade them.

With respect to their Chinese weapons, none of them were given for free including recently bought J-10s. With the failure of CPEC where Chinese have sunk billions with no hope for recovery anytime soon, you can bet given their stinginess they will not part with single cent to Porki scum. All the missiles like P-15, P-10 they are supplying to them are for a big price.

Coming to the present, remember this important point. Porki scum have no manufacturing base. Every time they fire a expensive missile like AIM-120 from F-16, P-15 from J17 or J-10, their bank balance would be draining at the rate of minimum $1 million - $2 million when they press fire. Same applies to their navy as well. Their military have been built up during good times when US and China were little generous. If India takes out their aircrafts mainly F-16, JF-17, J-10, submarines, ships etc, it will set them back by 20-30 years. There is no free lunch in today's world. Their stockpile of missiles used by their air force and navy might barely last for a week of combat.
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Exactly the reason why we should go to war of attrition with Pakistan. Excellent analysis.
 
Nutcracker said:
Are porky jeff Blunders even equipped with PL15 ? Most of the sources use morphed and edited pics. Chongs wont integrate their top of the line missile with Blunder considering that it will hamper their J10CE sales to Porkistan and rest of prospective customers.
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pl 15 ? i think porkies have pl 15e not pl 15 which has an reduced range of about 150km which in it selfs seems exaggerated
 
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