Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

[jor_se_bolo_pkmkb]

whats the situation at the border ? on the news its like shit ton of something happening there , i thought it was calm before the storm

No way to know whats happening. Fog of war is real and sometimes designed to be that way. Also no need for general public to know everything

 

[Dhartiputra]

1. DFI is a respected forum. Youth members should not indulge in jingoism about war without taking into account every aspect—geopolitics, modern technologies, the China factor (as they arm North Korea to the teeth). Let’s not forget: not having a peer competitor as a neighbor is a long-term strategic advantage. Why should China miss the opportunity to exploit chaos? We also need to consider weather, terrain, and the possibility of internal sabotage. Maintaining internal order is difficult—our police are underprepared for such large-scale disruption.

2. Regarding our strength parity with Pakistan: even during the 1965 and 1971 wars, we had to deploy a significant portion of our forces to guard the China border.

3. Why should we turn our region—essentially us—into a prolonged conflict? It would set us back by decades, just as the rest of the world is rapidly advancing in modern manufacturing and technology. Once we fall behind, catching up will be incredibly difficult.

4. There are many complexities, like the terrain in PoK—it’s hilly and very difficult to dominate without a sizeable air force. Our advantage over Pakistan in that aspect isn’t as big as we’d like to believe.

5. Now, some will ask: “What should we do if we don’t retaliate? Won’t it continue endlessly?” That’s not entirely true. Their doctrine (book kafir must be killed) may preach extremism, but major escalation would invite a massive recruitment of jihadists on their side. Yes, we won decisively in 1971 and could possibly do it again—but back then, they didn’t have a cold-blooded Industrial China which now courting countries to either join them or USA and I genuinely believe China would support them no matter what.

In my opinion, the best time to take revenge on Pakistan is during a Taiwan invasion—when China is fully distracted.

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

We can't dominate airspace. Its the sad reality and thats why we are hesitating for full war. Navy is not a problem. Army if limited to say J &K sector or rotated also is not a problem. But airforce is a serious problem. Even if we kill PAF aircraft at 2:1 ratio, highly optimistic, we will loose nearly 50 percent of our fighter aircraft strength. In that case we will be reduced to 25% of PLA AF strength. Can we really afford it?

Lest we forget, China will certainly try to attack Indian north east and Kanglu horde will join them too. The question is will the rest of the world band together and pick on the chinese. The answer is no!!

The real trump card between Chinese and US hegemony is India. If India is slightly strong US is successful in keeping a check on Chinese.

Maybe mea is discussing some concession to Orange man in return for yanks dealing with chinks

 

[MarDePopins]

We can't dominate airspace. Its the sad reality and thats why we are hesitating for full war. Navy is not a problem. Army if limited to say J &K sector or rotated also is not a problem. But airforce is a serious problem. Even if we kill PAF aircraft at 2:1 ratio, highly optimistic, we will loose nearly 50 percent of our fighter aircraft strength. In that case we will be reduced to 25% of PLA AF strength. Can we really afford it?

Lest we forget, China will certainly try to attack Indian north east and Kanglu horde will join them too. The question is will the rest of the world band together and pick on the chinese. The answer is no!!

The real trump card between Chinese and US hegemony is India. If India is slightly strong US is successful in keeping a check on Chinese.

Lmao what a bucket load of crap.. are u even real ??

 

[Anants]

India has ordered 2000-2500 drones in last few years.. from swarm drones to kamikaze to fpv..

India and Pakistan’s Development of Drones: Implications for Strategic Stability

Drones in South Asia pose the risk of intensifying an arms race between India and Pakistan, impacting regional stability and deterrence.

southasianvoices.org

In above piece written by pakis tells how worried they feel due to rising drone startups and capabilities addition wrt to pakistan.
This is the field where we have absolute dominance on paxtan which depends on chinese dji drones nd few Turkish replicas.. whereas we have more than 200+ drones startup to augment our capabilities indigenously.. we also have various indigenous counter UAS solutions. Our domestic drone industrial capacity is humongous when compared to pakis which can't even manufacture a 70cc moped engine leave drones..

When it comes to drone warfare we will absolutely annihilate paxtani.

Both are dependent on china. We have just started taking baby steps for researching on high strength magnets which goes into bldc.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Any large scale offensive against pakis necessitates the obliteration of Skardu airport and PAF Qadri with it. That takes care of PLAAF meddling in to directly support and resupply pakis.

 

[Captscooby]

Are they trying to intimidate us?
OR do they actually think we will attack with our tanks head on what a shit porkies lol.

We are sending that message only if you had done some surfing online and what our armed forces have been posting last two days from different commands

 

[Anants]

The real trump card between Chinese and US hegemony is India. If India is slightly strong US is successful in keeping a check on Chinese.

Make no mistake. US deep state and west wants humbled India. They need Yes Saaar Ji Saar OK Saar India and not fraand India.

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

We can't dominate airspace. Its the sad reality and thats why we are hesitating for full war. Navy is not a problem. Army if limited to say J &K sector or rotated also is not a problem. But airforce is a serious problem. Even if we kill PAF aircraft at 2:1 ratio, highly optimistic, we will loose nearly 50 percent of our fighter aircraft strength. In that case we will be reduced to 25% of PLA AF strength. Can we really afford it?

Lest we forget, China will certainly try to attack Indian north east and Kanglu horde will join them too. The question is will the rest of the world band together and pick on the chinese. The answer is no!!

The real trump card between Chinese and US hegemony is India. If India is slightly strong US is successful in keeping a check on Chinese.

Kangalus are non issue, assam rifles can deal with them, hell even local insurgent will probably also join in. We have to just open few gates in upper brahmputra dam and watch entire kagalustan turn into atlantis

 

[Magadha Naresh]

Make no mistake. US deep state and west wants humbled India. They need Yes Saaar Ji Saar OK Saar India and not fraand India.

Is there a deep state left there ?
Thank Elon chchha for what he has done .

 

[MarDePopins]

Both are dependent on china. We have just started taking baby steps for researching on high strength magnets which goes into bldc.

Ours have more indigenous content we are rapidly raising indigenous content nd now no drone in indian armed forces carry chinese equipment (recently acquired)

It's flawed to put both india nd Paxtan on same ball park where paxtan industrial capacity is non existent.

 

[Ajayant Tripathi]

I don't care who are they with and who are they are not with.

Just as they are entitled to their opinion and being abusive, I am also entitled to my opinion and abuse.

Either no one abuses or the right to abuse is for all to use.

Govt did not kill these hindus. Muslims did.
By repeatedly diverting from that fact and implying the govt somehow is responsible & then abuse them for inaction even after they have repeatedly told there would be, may be acceptable to some but not to me.

There is a difference between disagreement and abuse.
If someone disagrees, we can have a nice civil debate.
if you abuse, then, expect it in return as well.

regarding what Modi has not yet done, I am all for people pushing him for it.
but if you don't take into consideration what he has already done and pretend that he is the enemy of hindus and then heap abuse, then you should be ready to get countered,

Very well articulated. I too can't stand these abusers who abuse the modiji day and night.

Modi has done a lot for the hindus and that too in a fractious Hindu society. Heck Ayodhya people voted for SP candidate. However bad the Ayodhya candidate from BJP was. Just for this election it should have been a vote of confidence in Modiji. But traitors cut him down to size and reduced his strength to 240.

In that environment modi ji is steadily delivering for every section of Hindus and Indian Citizens. The question is not about modiji's intent and ability. Its about will the other wider hindu society accept it
Kahawat hai kutte ko ghee hazam nahi hota. Ye log inhi jaise hai. But chahiye inhe halwa.

Modi is not the bottleneck or drag. Its the wider hindu society that is the drag. Modiji ko blame mat karo faltu mai.

Abusing modiji when the fucking import bahadurs are not even buying from Indian vendors and are doing trial after trial.

So, The idiots who blame modiji should just shut up okay.

 

[brat4]

1. DFI is a respected forum. Youth members should not indulge in jingoism about war without taking into account every aspect—geopolitics, modern technologies, the China factor (as they arm North Korea to the teeth). Let’s not forget: not having a peer competitor as a neighbor is a long-term strategic advantage. Why should China miss the opportunity to exploit chaos? We also need to consider weather, terrain, and the possibility of internal sabotage. Maintaining internal order is difficult—our police are underprepared for such large-scale disruption.

2. Regarding our strength parity with Pakistan: even during the 1965 and 1971 wars, we had to deploy a significant portion of our forces to guard the China border.

3. Why should we turn our region—essentially us—into a prolonged conflict? It would set us back by decades, just as the rest of the world is rapidly advancing in modern manufacturing and technology. Once we fall behind, catching up will be incredibly difficult.

4. There are many complexities, like the terrain in PoK—it’s hilly and very difficult to dominate without a sizeable air force. Our advantage over Pakistan in that aspect isn’t as big as we’d like to believe.

5. Now, some will ask: “What should we do if we don’t retaliate? Won’t it continue endlessly?” That’s not entirely true. Their doctrine (book kafir must be killed) may preach extremism, but major escalation would invite a massive recruitment of jihadists on their side. Yes, we won decisively in 1971 and could possibly do it again—but back then, they didn’t have a cold-blooded Industrial China which now courting countries to either join them or USA and I genuinely believe China would support them no matter what.

In my opinion, the best time to take revenge on Pakistan is during a Taiwan invasion—when China is fully distracted.

so basically dont take any action even if they come and kill in numbers because we are scared of china.
and we need to be scared of pak because they can recruit jihadis.

wwah..

 

[Anants]

Is there a deep state left there ?
Thank Elon chchha for what he has done .

Deep state is ephusiuem for a mechanisim yesteryear colonial powers/industrialists. They are all entrenched in Western world and elsewhere. Trump may force it to lie bit low but it isn't out.

 

[shitsandgiggles]

we should never occupy towns.
There is no scenario where India goes into pakistan, occupies areas with plenty of muslims and comes out a winner.
Urban warfare is nasty and will bleed us.

Do salamy slicing of land which sparse population, rinse and repeat.

Very hard agree! We can look at Israel for example

 

[shitsandgiggles]

Maybe mea is discussing some concession to Orange man in return for yanks dealing with chinks

Last time around at time of galwan i recall US wanted us to escalate. we might not even have to give them concessions

 

[Ajayant Tripathi]

Lmao what a bucket load of crap.. are u even real ??

Its you who are a tank full of crap.
Just check the number parity of aircrafts duffer. No war is an isolated event. There are other players behind the curtain. Those who think Pakistan is alone and doesn't have strategic depth will soon find Pakistan just has new shiny modern weapons. Guess where they will come from china. and yes china will deliver them and why shall it not. Its not like China is not hostile to us. Have you forgotten Doklam and Galwan?

It clearly shows you are nothing but hotheaded person who is looking for a spectacle and doesn't care about future of India.

 

[Captscooby]

Even US is not using dedicated bomber like B52, B1 and B2. They are using C-130 which we have. In this case it depends on pilot to do basically fly inside Paki territory and put this big son of gun.

Uncle has just flown his Big Eagles to indian ocean base just few weeks ago and they are stationed for mission command ..

 

[Captscooby]

Will GoI use IN ? Using IN to just blockade is the maximum GoI under maulana will do I feel. Bombing Karachi to hell will cause Porkie to go nuclear, don't think Maulana has guts to stomach that.

Enough to keep the entire PN inside the karachi dockyyard only ...

 

[THESIS THORON]

lol


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