Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

[Azaad]

I have a strong feeling GOI is waiting to catch hold of the terrorists & capture the proof of their irrefutable Pakistani identities as proof before launching the brutal force of attack they have planned on Pakistan. This is to avoid any unnecessary interference by other countries or International Orgs.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-v_iv1einI

That's what it may look like but I doubt they can be taken alive assuming they can be tracked down to begin with .

That shouldn't prevent us from trying though & build up a fool proof dossier thru the offices of the NIA.

The latter's record in obtaining convictions is excellent , said to be ~ 90% .

 

[shade2]

Daily reminder there is NO incentive for the GoI in a "retaliation" 1 month+ from the date of the massacre like the cope currently is,

• Every day this massacre fades out of public memory slowly but surely,
• There will be calls from the W*st where they threaten us to de-escalate, if we retaliate in 1 month+ we will be the """""aggressor"""""
• Because of the above """"aggressor"""" labelling opposition dogs will also bark that "mudi is a warmonger"
• Many more investor pigeons will nest here with their factories or commitments to build them, they will fly away to never come back the popular "wisdom" says
• The Chings will threaten to intervene against "Indian aggression"

 

[shade2]

That's what it may look like but I doubt they can be taken alive assuming they can be tracked down to begin with .

That shouldn't prevent us from trying though & build up a fool proof dossier thru the offices of the NIA.

The latter's record in obtaining convictions is excellent , said to be ~ 90% .

dossier-dossier was tried after 26/11.

Unless this whole dossier and nia thing is sarcasm

 

[ezsasa]

as usual, CNN laying the groundwork for India the aggressor narrative.​

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Pakistan accuses India of baseless blame for Kashmir attack​

View: https://youtu.be/aZofzLDuyrs

India blames Pakistan for Kashmir's massacre​

View: https://youtu.be/bTLSZXI1DFI

 

[samsaptaka]

If at 40 you haven't understood democracy

You're right here, never did understand democrazy, never will....I only see it as an obfuscating mechanism to keep Hindus chained down in endless sickular shenanigans while the real enemy aka the 'miniorites' are allowed full freedom to slaughter us and cows in broad daylight while we can't even make a squeak against them without getting arrested

 

[Azaad]

dossier-dossier was tried after 26/11.

Unless this whole dossier and nia thing is sarcasm

No it isn't. We aren't going to handover these dossiers to Islambarbaad if that's what you mean. However if the NIA is involved they'd have to file a closure report assuming all the terrorists are killed off in an encounter or we're unable to catch them which are two likely scenarios.

The reason for involving them apart from the fact that they're the investigating organization for such crimes duly authorised to do so by an act of the constitution , is to document such cases. It's akin to building a narrative.

The FBI plays this role in the US. This is essential if you want to study patterns in order to predict the next attack or at the very least become acquainted with the terrorists's MO.

 

[spikey360]

0) You mean Paxtan will be undertaking all this preparation in isolation without the world knowing anything about it leave aside India ?

1) What do you want bombed ?

2) Please elaborate what are the targets you want destroyed .

3) I ask you once again short of complete annihilation thru a N war assuming it happens one day & is sufficient to take them all out what in your opinion can or should you do with ~ 250 million people of whom a substantial set are radicalised ?

4) You think those terror camps would still have those occupants after what happened at Balakot ?

5) And ...?

6) They've been doing that even otherwise.

7) I think both of us were around when 7/10 happened in Israel. What was the voice coming out of all those western capitals then ?

0) If so, that means your assertion is India has some capabilities to detect and pre-empt. Where are these capabilities now, then?
1) The terrorist camps.
2) The terrorist camps.
3) You did not get my question..
4) Yes- if they acted quickly enough. They cannot vacate terrorists camps overnight considering the kind of man and material they have in place in some of these.
5) And now they are prepared for the onslaught in a far better way which they would not have been had they had not this extra time to prepare.
6) The urgency has increased, so has the justification.
7) There is a big difference between Netanyahu and Modi. Modi is a people pleaser, likes to make everyone happy, God forbid the day he would do anything that displeases USA! And o, did I forget, this is not an era of war overhang. So one cannot compare Netanyahu and Modi and say that since Benny did not care about the opinion of western capitals, Modi will disregard them all in the same manner as well. You cannot make equal equal of Modi and Netanyahu, it is laughable.

Was it Israel is completely justified in seeking justice or revenge ? That they could take their own sweet time about it ? That they could entirely depopulate Gaza & the world would sit around & watch ? I seem to forget.

Once again, Israel's Godfather had their back, so the world opinion matters nothing to them. Hope you remember this, at the least.

 

[spikey360]

It will automagically calm down as time passes.
These are only IT Cell spindoctor articles to do "waow Gobi dodged a bullet, didn't fall into pakistan's trap, master stroke!" later on, like Maunmohan's "I am proud to have exercised restraint "

The leftists have already taken the initiative. Bunch of janaeu-burning-brahmin-surnamed Leftists already forwarded me how Aishnaya Dwivedi (morphed BBC reporting) said "Govt had abandoned us".
Also, a narrative being pushed is - all Kashmiris are innocent baby rabbits. Why was there no CRPF for Army in the area?

 

[concard]

These inbreeds have such low IQ, it clearly shows in their knowledge whenever they post crap like this. So let's see their claim whether what they have claimed is true or not.

Claim: 4 IAF Rafales Jammed for 4 minutes by their air force.

There are 2 types of aircrafts which can Jam a sophisticated fighter Jet like Rafale. One is their fighter Jets and the other is their SAAB Erieye 2000 which is an AEW&C.

All their fighter Jets are single Engines. The chances of their old junk Mirage III, Mirage 5, and F7 have anything to do with this is NIL. These are old aircrafts from 1960's with no sophisticated electronics to speak off. Besides they won't be sending these old Junk to face off Rafale if they have a brain. So we can easily rule out these aircrafts out of this scenario.

This leaves us with F-16, JF-17, and J-10. As I have explained in my previous post, their F-16s are old. None of the F-16s are equipped with AESA radar. Just look up the engines powering F-16, JF-17, and J-10. They barely produce enough power for onboard Radar, avionics, and subsystems. For a single engine fighter jet to jam a double engine powered fighter jet, it needs to produce enough thrust to not only power the onboard electronics but also jamming equipment. These aircrafts are no F-35 to be producing such power. So there is no way any of their fighter Jets are capable of jamming a Rafale.

The only other aircraft is SAAB Erieye 2000 which is an Airborne Early warning and control(AEW&C). It is powered by a Turboprop not a Turbofan. It has a range detection of 450km. It's radar coverage is 300 degrees. There is 60 degrees gap which it cannot cover. For this aircraft to Jam Rafale it has to be within 450km range and the Rafale has to be within it's line of sight. Unless they are morons they would not be having a strategic asset like this aircraft flying anywhere close to the border given our air defenses.

SAAB Erieye 2000 is powered by AESA radar based on Gallium Arsenide(GaA) not on Gallium Nitride(GaN) which is more power efficient. The longer the distance between this aircraft and the target aircraft(Rafale) the more power you need to jam the target aircraft. I highly doubt a Turboprop would produce such immense power to jam an aircraft that far, and I highly doubt Rafale would be in it's line of sight for 4 minutes.

As usual it is Porki scums telling their sweet bed time stories to feel better at night.

 

[Prasad]

Guy's a hawk, but need more like him in MSM to put pressure on Maulana & gang to not remove the foot off the pedal and finish this Paikhanistan problem once & for all....

If he is Maulana, why would Paki be finished?

Must be retarded Abdul's logic eh..

 

[Azaad]

0) If so, that means your assertion is India has some capabilities to detect and pre-empt. Where are these capabilities now, then?

Are you conflating a bunch of terrorists maybe a few 100 at the most scattered across Paxtan with the mobilization of the whole of PA for that's what it'd take to launch an invasion or partial invasion of India ?

1) The terrorist camps.
2) The terrorist camps.
3) You did not get my question..
4) Yes- if they acted quickly enough. They cannot vacate terrorists camps overnight considering the kind of man and material they have in place in some of these.

If I were from the ISI in charge of these activities I'd ensure the terrorists vacated those camps & seminaries much before something like a Pahalgam was executed , especially after we executed Balakot & 3 other such sites which people tend to forget .

If you think they'd do so after Pahalgam , I don't think you've understood the game .

5) And now they are prepared for the onslaught in a far better way which they would not have been had they had not this extra time to prepare.
6) The urgency has increased, so has the justification.
7) There is a big difference between Netanyahu and Modi. Modi is a people pleaser, likes to make everyone happy, God forbid the day he would do anything that displeases USA! And o, did I forget, this is not an era of war overhang. So one cannot compare Netanyahu and Modi and say that since Benny did not care about the opinion of western capitals, Modi will disregard them all in the same manner as well. You cannot make equal equal of Modi and Netanyahu, it is laughable.


Once again, Israel's Godfather had their back, so the world opinion matters nothing to them. Hope you remember this, at the least.

I think it's more a function of the kind of opposition we're up against vs what Israel is up against. Moreover I was referring to public reactions of the foreign ministries of various western countries.

They've always advocated peace & restraint around the world including for Israel which is what led Jaishankar to make those now legendary remarks in Europe - Europe has to get out of the mindset that Europe's problems are the world's problems but the world's problems are not Europe's problems . If it is you it's your problem , if it's us it's the world's problem.

Finally , if at your age with the kind of experience you've had in forums , if you still take politicians at face value it says more about you than it does about them . You've my sympathies.

 

[Prasad]

Are you conflating a bunch of terrorists maybe a few 100 at the most scattered across Paxtan with the mobilization of the whole of PA for that's what it'd take to launch an invasion or partial invasion of India ?

If I were from the ISI in charge of these activities I'd ensure the terrorists vacated those camps & seminaries much before something like a Pahalgam was executed , especially after we executed Balakot & 3 other such sites which people tend to forget .

If you think they'd do so after Pahalgam , I don't think you've understood the game .

I think it's more a function of the kind of opposition we're up against vs what Israel is up against. Moreover I was referring to public reactions of the foreign ministries of various western countries.

They've always advocated peace & restraint around the world including for Israel which is what led Jaishankar to make those now legendary remarks in Europe - Europe has to get out of the mindset that Europe's problems are the world's problems but the world's problems are not Europe's problems . If it is you it's your problem , if it's us it's the world's problem.

Finally , if at your age with the kind of experience you've had in forums , if you still take politicians at face value it says more about you than it does about them . You've my sympathies.

That guy is a BJP hating retard.
You would have more success teaching a pig than reasoning with these BJP haters.

They don't care about revenge or justice or dealing a blow to Pakis.
For them the narrative is important.
If BJP attacks fast and we lose soldiers, these same BJP hating retards would go after BJP.
Since BJP is taking it's time to plan, these guys will keep abusing because they have a cause.

We have seen these retards for a while now.
They are just playing politics here. They don't care about hindus or India or our military,

Imagine these retards saying guts is all we need to attack.
That's the kind of retards we got here now a days.

 

[haldilal]

View: https://x.com/i/status/1918636174416945554

 

[Prasad]

Paki nuclear bomb threat is fake and India knows it very well.

Paki military is not run by rabid islamists. Their NCO's may be but not their officers and definitely not anyone above Colonel rank.
These guys run billion dollar business and live a life of comfort beyond what ordinary Pakis imagine. Paki land is basically a country that is there to make the military establishment happy.
Paki military uses Islam and islamists as an extension to keep their grip on the nation.

The idea of attacking India with a nuclear bomb will not even these Paki generals brains. They know exactly what the consequence of them doing that.
There is no country they and their families will be able to live. Basically, the moment a nuclear bomb is used, the military would have signed it's death warrant.
There won't be a country that will support them. And when they lose the war, there won't a country that will give them and their family shelter.

As long as their core interests are not threatened, these Paki generals would let Paki land burn.

 

[spikey360]

If I were from the ISI in charge of these activities I'd ensure the terrorists vacated those camps & seminaries much before something like a Pahalgam was executed , especially after we executed Balakot & 3 other such sites which people tend to forget .

If you think they'd do so after Pahalgam , I don't think you've understood the game .

Consider the fact that in both the cases, the revenge was taken after a long time, and any quick reaction would surely have broken that assertion this time around and caught them unaware.
In fact, Modi now walked into the trap which Pakistan and China was hoping for.
Go into prepare paralysis and in the meantime, they pull the levers to ensure the any kind of blow is well predicted before time and is handled with utmost preparedness from their side.

That guy is a BJP hating retard.
You would have more success teaching a pig than reasoning with these BJP haters.

They don't care about revenge or justice or dealing a blow to Pakis.
For them the narrative is important.
If BJP attacks fast and we lose soldiers, these same BJP hating retards would go after BJP.
Since BJP is taking it's time to plan, these guys will keep abusing because they have a cause.

We have seen these retards for a while now.
They are just playing politics here. They don't care about hindus or India or our military,

Imagine these retards saying guts is all we need to attack.
That's the kind of retards we got here now a days.

Unfortunately for you @Prasad , MaoMao knows me from way back, so your gaslighting ways will not work on him.

 

[Ajayant Tripathi]

Nowhere did I ask for Instagram action, I am only saying that what the GoI is doing now is actually kneejerk, like deporting porkies living amongst us, banning porkie imports etc...from day 1 maulana could have treated pork as enemy terrorist state, why did he choose not to do so ?
In what way did they deserve kid glove treatment.
Same is true for BD & rohingya infiltrators. Not one has been deported over the 11 yrs bhajipao has been in power. Will it take another 50 hindus killed by rohingyas in WB for maulana to take action ?

Khangress is a 75yr old party? So fkng what ? Doesn't disprove what I wrote regarding their strategy does it ?
You keep going on tangents instead of addressing specifics.

It is all easy to say. Rant and whine. Its been just a week and the Kashmiris have now started denying the phalgam hindu massacre by islamic terrorists. Even when the PM has declared a firm response and when national security is paramount J&K HC has found it inhumane to deport an illegal enemy state's citizen. This all is happening under the cloud of possible national mobilization. You really thought we could do it in peacetime. No! We couldn't. These greens protested even when CAA didn't concern them. You really believe we could have deported them before. No, Clearly not.

We should appreciate that Mr. Modi atleast acted now. These measures are more meaningful than some symbolic kinetic action. Its the time when we could firm our divorce from pig farms. I am really disappointed Mr. Modi didn't retaliate against Kanglus in similar manner. But that is the task that can be done some other day. I am sure kanglus will give us an opportunity to severe ties from them too.


The public atleast now is aware about how much pakistani pigs live off on Indian Taxpayer money, How our country was running like a Dharmsala. These are now on record. The recent measures to severe logictical ties are another step to firm our distance from pork land. These are more meaningful than some airstrike which just stews some pig meat.

I however, we will like govt. to take severe actions even in Kinetic Domain. I want the govt. to eradicate this anathema. I don't want some symbolic kinetic actions. I want objective kinetic actions aimed at accelerating the bankrupticy of PIg Farm. It is time we apply pressure on them and keep it up.

The best route for us is to deny their shipping lanes under one excuse or another. Keep their forces tied up at IB and LoC. Use their internal factions to sabotage their military installations. Buy time for local freedom fighters to entrench and establish themselves.

For example: We should ensure that baloch freedom fighters get atleast 6 months to control the Quetta City. It will be very hard to dislodge them than. Colonist Punjabi Army thinks that they can aerialy bomb them and than establish control again. Thats why we also need to keep the punjabi air force occupied too. The more we stress their conventional military assets the more harder it will be form them to take control back. A confined limited kinetic reponse is must if we want to accelerate the collapse of imperial punjabi project. It will need all our three branches to work in tandem. Our Navy should be used to destroy the punjabi naval assets. Our Carrier Battle Group should keep a part of the punjabi air force engaged in arabian sea. We should not aim for a deeper invasion but enough to keep the war inside the pakistani territory. Our aim is not to capture excessive territory but some strategic positions. Our army can do it. Its a full spectrum war but limited in its geographical scope. It may be locally intense but is low in decibel. It doesn't overflow into a nuclear war. It is the only war that delivers our stated objective and solves the problem permanently.

Even if intensity decreases later we should keep their airforce in air too. We need to keep those aerial assets away so that they are not used to carpet bomb freedom fighters.

 

[Patriots]

View: https://x.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1918956062557790219

 

[spikey360]

dossier-dossier was tried after 26/11.

Unless this whole dossier and nia thing is sarcasm

Imagine USA building a dossier for the world to see before they invaded Afghanistan.
Imagine USA building "foolproof" evidence chain against Saddam WMD before invading Iraq.

Let's face it - dossier is a game of the weak, colonised mind. At this point, seeing the reaction of BJP in last 11 days - there is zero difference between their reaction and a hypothetical Congi reaction.

 

[spikey360]

as usual, CNN laying the groundwork for India the aggressor narrative.​

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Pakistan accuses India of baseless blame for Kashmir attack​

View: https://youtu.be/aZofzLDuyrs

India blames Pakistan for Kashmir's massacre​

View: https://youtu.be/bTLSZXI1DFI

I don't get what they like about dirty, smelly looking followers of desert cult.
Democrats have always favoured Muslims over even their own Christian brethren, so it is no surprise that a democrat pushing channel like CNN will organise chai-pe-charcha sessions with dirty smelly pigs.

 

[Azaad]

Consider the fact that in both the cases, the revenge was taken after a long time, and any quick reaction would surely have broken that assertion this time around and caught them unaware.

Quick reaction would depend on what we're targeting. I wrote before Modi could've gone in for a high profile strike with TV cameras attached to our Fighters which would've beamed back 4k resolution pictures showing a few buildings at various sites destroyed with a few casualties , in graphic detail.

Makes for very good optics. But zero impact for as I put it to you , those birds would've long flown the coop much before Pahalgam was attempted.

Ironically this is what Fauji Foundation may have gambled on but they're now realising they've bitten off more than they can chew. All they can do is mobilise troops & parade up & down the LoC & IB or carry out exercises ( limited given the state of the economy ) in the hinterland.

I also wrote you wouldn't have seen Hapig Saeed or Malauda No sood for I'm Muslim Azhar for weeks in public before Pahalgam & you're not likely to see them in public for a long time if at all.

Finally for us to have the kind of preparation as you're suggesting we need to instead be involved in pre emptive strikes. I think we'd see that going into the future.

All these things need to be graduated over a period of time. We can't get to the last step of the escalatory ladder without climbing all or most of those steps.

In fact, Modi now walked into the trap which Pakistan and China was hoping for.
Go into prepare paralysis and in the meantime, they pull the levers to ensure the any kind of blow is well predicted before time and is handled with utmost preparedness from their side.

You're assuming Paxtan wouldn't be getting ISR from China , even if we were to act immediately say within 48 hours of Pahalgam.