Operation Sindoor

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Am I seriously gonna have to be the only one who has a problem with this @Mods and fellow DFBians?

The "foreign liabilities" are displaying their professional achievements. The likes of you are putting their faces on an open forum, rife with enemies of the state, and using incredibly objectionable language against them. See the difference?

Also, Japanese wife and Japan and the USA are allies, so Trump has leverage on Jaisahankar?! Tf are you on, man?!

War is over (highly likely). Accountability have to be fixed.

The political leadership must be made to answer: what was achieved at the cost of the precious lives of the Indian military personnel and citizens? What did they die for?
 
So do I, buddy. And I mean REAL close. .
So, you're
1) REAL close to beureucrats
2) Settled/Green Card/Visa to USA

And you wonder why we won't take your opinion seriously?

Are you one of the liabilities we are talking of? Damn, now the aaah public pics aaaah violence by posting LinkedIN aaaah makes sense,😂😂

We are the clowns and ours is the circus.
 
War is over (highly likely). Accountability have to be fixed.

The political leadership must be made to answer: what was achieved at the cost of the precious lives of the Indian military personnel and citizens? What did they die for?

As they should be! Our's is a fucking democracy! Doesn't mean you get to say "India is Pakistan. Our leadership sold our dead just like Pakis do".
 
Meanwhile :lol:
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Honestly, I am disappointed in many forum members. They have more interest in debating if to blame Modi for their angst or not. There should be seperate outrage threads honestly, for every incident in the future. Because otherwise any analysis gets buried under nonsense political discussions and blind SM level outrage, instead of proper analysis. This is a bloody defence forum, yet look at this shit. Nobody is considering this to be:-
  • an evolving situation
  • Where we don't know all the facts (Something many members choose to ignore)
  • Where analysis has been thrown in the dustbin to such an extent that a substantial section of members of this "Defence" forum have been claiming that we have already achieved air superiority over Pakistan just because Paki AAA was shit, C-UAS nonexistent and SAM systems weak to missiles.
  • When the situation was developing, I had red flagged why members are going overboard with their emotions thinking that just because we are doing better than expected on a certain low rung of the escalating ladder, that it means we'll easily win and continue to easily win even when at the higher rungs, different sets of weapons will continue to come into play, along with a changing tactical and operational situation. Our air defences would have been woefully inadequate for a ground invasion into Pakistan, we would have won, but not nearly as easily as a few drone and missile exchanges and a half hearted air campaign had made us believe. And good luck winning Pakistan without a ground invasion.
  • I had also asked members to tell me how exactly we can defang Pakistan' nuclear canines. The best answer I got was that we should let ourselves get hit with nukes as long as we can finish Pakistan once and for all. I had stated that we aren't ready yet, that we should continue to pound the Pakis while taking the next few years to develop a real capability to capture every single Paki Nuke in one swift op. I had proposed opening a new thread to discuss this. Yet here we are days later, no thread on this topic, just members outraging similar to the previous mindless cheerleading. Few members partake in serious discussions and watch helplessly as their analysis is drowned out in a deluge of one liner posts or outrage posts or blackpilker posts or cheerleading posts despite the mods doing their level best to keep the thread sensible.
GET OUT OF YOUR DEFENCE FORUMS FOR A MINUTE AND GO TO TWITTER. THE ENTIRE INDIAN POPULATION IS ANGRY AT THE SUDDEN CEASEFIRE DECISION, EVEN AFTER VIOLATIONS OF THAT FROM PAKISTAN.





For how long IT cells will keep saving Modi's blunder??? All BJP supporters are bashing BJP
Even if it is Modi's blunder, is that the only thing you should be focusing your analysis on? That why and how Modi blundered? Op Sindoor is still not over officially. There's been no debrief yet. But this entire forum is drowning into meltdown, no sign of any attempt to collate information and make sense of it, analyse it. Debate it. No. All we want to do is debate on how our leader failed us or not.
 
Am I seriously gonna have to be the only one who has a problem with this @Mods and fellow DFBians?

The "foreign liabilities" are displaying their professional achievements. The likes of you are putting their faces on an open forum, rife with enemies of the state, and using incredibly objectionable language against them. See the difference?

Also, Japanese wife and Japan and the USA are allies, so Trump has leverage on Jaisahankar?! Tf are you on, man?!
Yes, you're the only one who thinks googling Jaishankar's children, then going to their work pages and then posting it's screenshot is tantamount to divulging super secret state secret to ISI.

Do you think Pakistanis don't have Google or they don't know who the MEA is? I'm very confused.
 
The way India sliced through Chinese ADS with combo of Su30-brahmos yesterday was incredibly stunning..

Nd to tap PAXTAN in to submission we just punched 2-3 missile accross PAF airbases..

That's like conveying a subtle message that we can strike u anywhere nd everywhere.. we know where ur assets are.. nd nothing can save u from us when we strike.. no chinese ADS no nuclear dhamki no R@ndi Rona.. nothing will work.. we will strike u nd strike u at will..

Seems like message was communicated in an efficient but perilous way..

WE STRUCK ALL OF THERE MAJOR AIRBASES!!

Killed their sq. leader in bholari with few other chaps .. took out their prized swedish AWACS.. nd made PAF Impotent all while tapping couple of brahmos per airbases..

It was a neatly planned offensive from our lads.

As expected PAF didn't had the courage to launch an offensive like what IAF did on 7th may wrt threat it faced from our layered ADS. However they tried to save their face by launching fatah-1 nd 2 MLRS
But to no avail.. all of their vectors were intercepted by MRSAM.. fatah 2 with range of 400km which was touted as S400 Killer in greenghetto circle was intercepted in a blink by MRSAM over sirsa skies.. another chinese greenpainted weishi rocket failed.

Pakis were earlier claiming their ADS nd Radars were off due to our Harop drones roaming above their airspace lol guess what we punched a gapping hole in their ADS with brahmos..

Here are some neetly curated examples of Mujeet coping from greenghetto
Enjoy folks!!

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Buddy, I have got close family members in the top bureaucracy, including a few in the central ministries. It is like a family heirloom.

Indian politicians have deep distrust for the military and rely heavily on the bureaucrats to do their dirty works (babus are aggreable, military officers not so much).

Just look at the number of ex-bureaucrats holding positions in the central cabinet. Modi even granted ticket to a freshly retired ex-ambassador to contest election from Punjab in 2024. Modi is known for relying heavily on the babus since his days as Gujarat's CM.
In all the key meetings, it was Modi, Defence Minister, CDS, three service chiefs, NSA. All service chiefs and CDS had direct ears of Narendra Modi. They were not reporting to some bureaucrat. Rather, they were part of the highest decisions.

How come you start blaming bureaucrats here. Bureaucracy had no role to play here. If you talk about Foreign Secretary, do you think he had more influence than Foreign Minister in the decisions?
 
As they should be! Our's is a fucking democracy! Doesn't mean you get to say "India is Pakistan. Our leadership sold our dead just like Pakis do".

I do get to say that because I am clearly seeing the symptoms. Indian life is not cheap. People have died, those who are responsible for it must tell us what did we get back in return. If they cannot provide a convincing answer then they are not competent enough to hold on to the throne.

A politician's or bureaucrat's career is more expendable than the life of our military personnel.
 
Bataya jaata hai ki PM Bajpai ne clinton ko Pakistan ke nuclear bomb use karne ke threat par bola tha ki main aadhe india ko khatam maan chuka hoon, lekin iske baad pakistan ka naam-o-nishan nahi bachega... I salute him.. Salute Mrs Gandhi who didn't bow before Nixon... Itna darr tha nukes ka to fir Pakistan ke upar attack karna hi nahi tha.. Arabon rupaye kaam me aa gaye honge... jo ab baatein nikal kar aa rahi hain ki nukes ka istemal ho jaata ye ho sakta tha wo ho sakta tha, ye cheejen to pahle bhi aisi hi thi....
Same Vajpayee who didn't allow Indian forces to cross IB causing India to lose 3 times more soldiers to clear the tops? Same Indira who gave away the definite win in the table of negotiations?


Modi did more than any Indian lesder ever did against Porkies since Porkies acquired nukes, yet morons all over India is doing randi rona. What a shame!


It is usually I who get frustrated with Modi. But I now know that there also people who just want to find flaw even in success of Modi. Disgusting level of intellectual failures!
 
So, you're
1) REAL close to beureucrats
2) Settled/Green Card/Visa to USA

And you wonder why we won't take your opinion seriously?

Are you one of the liabilities we are talking of? Damn, now the aaah public pics aaaah violence by posting LinkedIN aaaah makes sense,😂😂

We are the clowns and ours is the circus.
Aaaaannnnnddddd there you go. Cannot refute my arguments, therefore chooses to insult my whole identity.

Why do you low-life retards feel that your not taking "our" opinion seriously matters in the world? Bruh, look closely. You're insulting people with accolades you'd kill to have! Don't fool yourself with any sense of inflated ego just cause you think that "our" lives or "our" accolades are easier to achieve. The fact is, irrespective of what "our" familial backgrounds are, everyone in "our" economic strata (babus included) has the same opportunities. That is the on-ground reality. Your view of babudom is that of an age gone by. Honestly, I'd love to have all those added benefits. But unfortunately, I for one had to pave my own road throughout.
 
>Peaceful negotiations with India to solve longstanding issues including Indus water, Kashmir.

So I guess they will ask us to reinstate IWT and maybe even ask Kashmir(or give up their claim), We would not negotiate on any of it(my guess), or ask for HVTs and Parts or all of PoJK

>Op chuddy banyan ....against religious fanaticism:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :smiley-crying::smiley-crying::smiley-crying::hair:
 
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