Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

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Yep, agreed. Honestly, I don't think most of the forum was even aware of all of the weapon systems we used during Op Sindoor and how well everything was integrated and layered, let alone classified stuff.
Ngl, Op Sindoor puts a few things into perspective. The greatest of which, for me, is that much of our rr on this forum is unfounded.

It's sad that we had to mothball those Mig25s. It would have been a potent platform for Brahmos or air launched Agni variants with its speed and altitude, could have possibly been one of the options for the air arm of the nuke triad.
I don’t see anything wrong with targeting Pakistan’s nuclear installations if Pakistan is openly threatening to use nuclear weapons. Why should India tolerate nuclear blackmail?
 
can someone please explain this 23 wala concept?

saw hellfire on X post out these cryptic predictions as well. took me a long time to understand whatever the hell those numbers and colours meant, and even now i am not entirely sure.

they better not edge me and then do a KLPD at the end! :tsk::tsk:


View: https://x.com/hellfire_81/status/1923581508205543444

India announces closure of airspace over Andaman Sea on May 23-24 for planned air activity​


 
I don’t see anything wrong with targeting Pakistan’s nuclear installations if Pakistan is openly threatening to use nuclear weapons. Why should India tolerate nuclear blackmail?
Wrong?!
HELL NAH!
If it were up to me, GoI would absolutely do the big ball move of exposing exactly what they hit at Kirana and other nuclear installations and publish a BDA (Probably Modi would have done it if we were a 10T club member). That would make the US, Russia and China look like little sissies. Ik, we haven't absolutely severed all of Pakistan's "fangs" but goddamn, bombing nuclear storage sites and causing a nuclear meltdown in the 21st century after just 3 days of conflict and the best the nuclear enemy can do is cry to their abbu? The inner circles of the world's "high" societies surely know that the OGs are back in the game and arguably better at it than them in a lot of aspects.
 
I don’t see anything wrong with targeting Pakistan’s nuclear installations if Pakistan is openly threatening to use nuclear weapons. Why should India tolerate nuclear blackmail?
We don't have to. In the coming months, Israel will conduct more strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities. GoI needs to grow a spine, ask the chinese whether they are willing to die for their pets, and then go ahead with neutralizing paki nuke stockpiles and r&d centers with impunity.​
 
Nurkhan Airbase attack and probably the Kirana one had the clues of what went wrong with US that they came suddenly telling that they broke ceasefire.The other point is , even after such a humiliating defeat from Indian Armed forces , PAK army showing that they won the war against India. third Point what transpired between US-INDIA-PAK that after having upper hand , India accepted ceasefire. These three points are important which will set the things in perspective.
My take is , PAK is fully backed by China as well US . China supports openly where as US from Backdoors.
It is Important for both of them (US-CH) to keep India engaged with PAK so the PAK Nuclear boggy was harped. This time around India run out of Patience and they hit PAK which actually targated US.
Suddenly , US mask has come out and we have seen US posture is against India since 10th may. I think India GOV understood that its US doublegame that needs to be trated before fixing PAK. Its also important that China stand will be softened in near future and working relationship will be developed based on mutual understanding as China also understood that now it is not possible for PAK to bleed India because any further attack on Indan soil will call for full militery surrender of PAK by India and in that situation POK and GB will lost by PAK and will hit China much more .so i forsee engagement with China and distencing from USA as siding with UAS will harm more for Make In INDIA as we are developing our own militery infra.
It is also prudent to ask since 2009 or even 2014 , more visibally we have been called partners of USA , what have we gain from then , I do not recall any technology or deplomatic help they have provided to India rather its loss. So I beleive , India was correct in its stance to not getting into USA and just like USA , we have also rendered the leap service to them on deplomacy while charting our path. Probably USA guaged that their plan to pit India against China had failed and so they have renewed their Interest in PAK again!
 
Nurkhan Airbase attack and probably the Kirana one had the clues of what went wrong with US that they came suddenly telling that they broke ceasefire.The other point is , even after such a humiliating defeat from Indian Armed forces , PAK army showing that they won the war against India. third Point what transpired between US-INDIA-PAK that after having upper hand , India accepted ceasefire. These three points are important which will set the things in perspective.
My take is , PAK is fully backed by China as well US . China supports openly where as US from Backdoors.
It is Important for both of them (US-CH) to keep India engaged with PAK so the PAK Nuclear boggy was harped. This time around India run out of Patience and they hit PAK which actually targated US.
Suddenly , US mask has come out and we have seen US posture is against India since 10th may. I think India GOV understood that its US doublegame that needs to be trated before fixing PAK. Its also important that China stand will be softened in near future and working relationship will be developed based on mutual understanding as China also understood that now it is not possible for PAK to bleed India because any further attack on Indan soil will call for full militery surrender of PAK by India and in that situation POK and GB will lost by PAK and will hit China much more .so i forsee engagement with China and distencing from USA as siding with UAS will harm more for Make In INDIA as we are developing our own militery infra.
It is also prudent to ask since 2009 or even 2014 , more visibally we have been called partners of USA , what have we gain from then , I do not recall any technology or deplomatic help they have provided to India rather its loss. So I beleive , India was correct in its stance to not getting into USA and just like USA , we have also rendered the leap service to them on deplomacy while charting our path. Probably USA guaged that their plan to pit India against China had failed and so they have renewed their Interest in PAK again!
The thing which is most frustating is there is IAF and GoI always give Pak an off ramp.

If Rafale was shot, why not a Volley of BrahMos toward PAF Kamra Base ( J-10 and PAC production center )

If PAF had the means or PLAAF , Hindon AFS , HAL facilities would be targeted without second thought
 
By the way, the reason i keep bringing up this UNSC+UNGA chudaai angle, is not to pooh-pooh indian fate, but to bring clarity to it.
Inorder to have good strategic vision, one must accept strategic realities.
Strategic reality is, until we get UNSC veto power- which is highly unlikely, as we wont even clear UNGA, let alone bypass all 5 vetos on UNSC- we cannot go fuck over a country the world doesnt want to see fucked over- not in conventional military terms.

So therefore, what we need to do, is asymetric wafare- break Pakistan from within by fanning the flames, infiltration, etc etc- do to THEM what they keep trying to do to us and failing - break their nation from within.
In THIS angle, if we have clarity of vision, koi- maai ka laal cannot prevent the breaking of Pakistan - uncle, chinkle, all the world can do is stare in dismay if there is full scale civil war in pakistan - max the world will do is confiscate its nukes - HOORAY !

And since we cannot do conventional uncle sam or raashia style 'knock knock - FUCK YOU' war, we have to look at our conventional forces from a playing defence sense. whether its offensive defence or defence
defence, our conventional posture mostly has to remain defensive.

And in this, as lord Krishna said - patience, vats. Patience. I think we have been playing this angle for the last 5-10 years max, but to break a country from within, takes time. Give us 25 years - which means another 15 years from this 'strategic shift' and Pakistan ke tukre tukre ho jayengee and we will be the tukre tukre gang.
Let's assume UNSC goes against us! What next , only way they can screw us is on sanctions. Let's face it. There will be a great trouble for India , but i am sure we will come out of it and then what?
our mentality had brought us to this subservient state. " We will eat grass but we will have nuk" , eventually , India has to come to this stage. We will do whatever we want , go ahead whatever sanctions you would like to have. will this happen , but not , because we start shivering the day we do not get electricity in our homes for 4 hours?
 
Let's assume UNSC goes against us! What next , only way they can screw us is on sanctions. Let's face it. There will be a great trouble for India , but i am sure we will come out of it and then what?
our mentality had brought us to this subservient state. " We will eat grass but we will have nuk" , eventually , India has to come to this stage. We will do whatever we want , go ahead whatever sanctions you would like to have. will this happen , but not , because we start shivering the day we do not get electricity in our homes for 4 hours?

India in one top 10 contributors to UN in terms of monetary contributions about 37 million USD (Government) besides that there are significant voluntary contributions from India for non-government sources. They are not going to do anything substantial. Probably something symbolic or slap on the wrist.
Do you think they would want to lose all that money?
 
Bruh they're so bad at everything. :rotflmao:



Either pakis are secretly fans of DD Mahabharat or some idiot basically picked up an "urdu to Hindi thesaurus" and copy pasted whatever came to mind.
very funny Hindi
Never heard such Hindi in India

seems they used online tool or asked diploma holder of Hindi department of Lahore (Punjab University) to translate script! :p
 
Let's assume UNSC goes against us! What next , only way they can screw us is on sanctions. Let's face it. There will be a great trouble for India , but i am sure we will come out of it and then what?
our mentality had brought us to this subservient state. " We will eat grass but we will have nuk" , eventually , India has to come to this stage. We will do whatever we want , go ahead whatever sanctions you would like to have. will this happen , but not , because we start shivering the day we do not get electricity in our homes for 4 hours?
UNSC or no country in world has any "aukad" to sanctions India at any front.
They could not do so it even in 1971, leave alone 2025
 
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