Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

[JConline]

Mods, please delete this if it is a repost.

Very informative interview with Tom Cooper. Worth the 45 mins.


View: https://youtu.be/Lbfo0bUQHKk?si=QkBm8mrw2smy2ncL

 

[Nibbler]

Ward carrol, who is generally a good watch, seemingly has brought on a Pakistani propagandist to "reveal deep intel" on the conflict.

Absolute garbage, needs to be called out.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QWoRVzK2kQ

This includes verifiable disinfo like "BSF S400 operator funeral" etc, a complete sham but on a platform that gets good views.

Why does it need to be called out.

Just don't give it views.

 

[Ajatshatru]

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[Oldworld]

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[Ajatshatru]

Comparing Operation Sindoor to the Balakot airstrikes, it’s clear that the Indian military has learned significantly and addressed past shortcomings. Both the Indian military and government appear to learn quickly from their experiences. In the case of Balakot, there was a lack of publicly available evidence to support the strike’s impact, whereas in Operation Sindoor, a substantial amount of evidence has been presented. During Balakot, India was pressured into de-escalation in exchange for the return of Wing Commander Abhinandan. In contrast, during Operation Sindoor and its aftermath, the Indian military gave Pakistan no such opportunity. It’s evident that the Indian military and government have continued to evolve, and in future conflicts, their responses are likely to be even more swift, precise, and effective.

 

[Nibbler]

Chang runs a $1 trillion dollar surplus while Uncle Sam prints dollars the ccp basically distributed it.

This can buy a lot of influence. They will of course target "trusted sources" with big audiences. The money can find its way into the influencers pocket thru any number of avenues. Not necessarily thru a Chinese lady in ccp uniform.

The average westoid is receptive to this. They hate India and Indians.

Information war is a waste of time until we have the money to do it right.

Just don't engage imo. Good OR bad. I don't give a shit what tom cooper thinks either tbh

Sindoor has killed a lot of dirty pakis and proven indian weapons to the Indian military. Which is what matters.

 

[Ajatshatru]

Chang runs a $1 trillion dollar surplus while Uncle Sam prints dollars the ccp basically distributed it.

This can buy a lot of influence. They will of course target "trusted sources" with big audiences. The money can find its way into the influencers pocket thru any number of avenues. Not necessarily thru a Chinese lady in ccp uniform.

The average westoid is receptive to this. They hate India and Indians.

Information war is a waste of time until we have the money to do it right.

Just don't engage imo. Good OR bad. I don't give a shit what tom cooper thinks either tbh

Sindoor has killed a lot of dirty pakis and proven indian weapons to the Indian military. Which is what matters.

Indian military must always be prepared to conduct surgical strikes within Pakistan, neutralize any Pakistani retaliation, execute effective counter-retaliatory operations, and, in the event of a full-scale war, neutralize Pakistan’s nuclear capabilities.

Pakistan dares to carry out terrorist attacks against India under the bluff of its nuclear umbrella. Neutralise the nuclear bluff

 

[Nibbler]

Indian military must always be prepared to conduct surgical strikes within Pakistan, neutralize any Pakistani retaliation, execute effective counter-retaliatory operations, and, in the event of a full-scale war, neutralize Pakistan’s nuclear capabilities.

Id go further and say India should do a nuclear counterforce first strike if the option presents itself.

Even if it's only 90% of their warheads. Of they can be eliminated with a nuclear first strike they should.

After that we can say if you retaliate the next nukes will be in your cities.

 

[Tumba]

Even if we use current exchange rate of rupees to dollars, even then gov. Budget exceed 550 billion in dollars terms.

Where did you get the 370billion no.?

370 Billion USD is Revenue (Tax Collections etc.), 550 Billion USD is budget that means Indian Govt took 180 Billion USD debt from Internal and external sources.

 

[Tumba]

Tomwahawk was not an air to air missile. It was a cruise missile.

Indian equivalent of PL-15E would be Astra-3 (SFDR) anyway.

Indian equivalent is Astra MK2, duel pulse solid motor both, 2 way data link.

Range will be similar also dont go buy 300 km marketting.

Even if Astra MK2 is fired af 50000 feet and its kept at same altitude due to less friction from atmosphere it will reach 200+ kms.

So for every 10000 feet drop in altitude due to more and more friction one can assume less and less range.

Astra MK2 as per published marketing vouchers reaches almost 100 kms at 20000 feet, PL-15 will be around same.

At sea level I doubt the range for both can be longer than 20-25 kms

Astra MKIII is similar to meteor with solid pulse motor + Ramjet

 

[Ajatshatru]

Id go further and say India should do a nuclear counterforce first strike if the option presents itself.

Even if it's only 90% of their warheads. Of they can be eliminated with a nuclear first strike they should.

After that we can say if you retaliate the next nukes will be in your cities.

India should destroy Pakistan's nuclear weapons at the very outset of any war. The mere fear that India could strike Pakistan's nuclear arsenal will compel the Pakistani military to surrender—even before such an attack occurs, let alone after it.

 

[Nutcracker]

Why does it need to be called out.

Just don't give it views.

Give your one view. But make full use of it. Downvote the video , and upvote pro India comments. He literally brought some Ali Chishti , son of porky heermandi ghashti, pedo mulla guest, that should tell how biased his assesment would've been.

 

[Azaad]

was thinking about this the other day, this opinion expressed above is common among all Indians who watch this space.

one of the things that never happened, is that atleast in public discussions no Indian has ever put this question to any american knowledgeable about this topic, and let them explain their view. it's always some Indian or brown coolie, explaining India's stand to goras. how is it that our exfarts don't seek any explanations from goras on positions they hold !!!

some thing along the lines of "what is the hold that paki state has on murican state, that every time pakis are in trouble, they are bailed out?".

the line of questioning from our people is usually in the line of 'oh great white one, tell us, share us your infinite wisdom, are we doing the right thing?". the goras and their brown coolies always frame their responses, in a manner that the Indian interacting starts thinking defensive. same with brits as well.

this need not be an antagonistic interaction, but our people also need to learn to frame their questions in a better manner that elicits the info we need. minds need to be applied on how to get answers from gora/brown coolie apologists.

View: https://youtu.be/wDou5m_s638?si=vXIbpdZ1o7ZojnDu

 

[Nibbler]

Give your one view. But make full use of it. Downvote the video , and upvote pro India comments. He literally brought some Ali Chishti , son of porky heermandi ghashti, pedo mulla guest, that should tell how biased his assesment would've been.

Nah

No views. no interaction. no acknowledgment.

Why spend effort trying to convince people who dont want to be convinced?

I don't think info war matters.

Dead pakis matter and there's 100s of them.

 

[Nutcracker]

even as percentage of central budget, defence budget has been reduced. You could say indigenization has compensated for some part of it, but more is needed for sure.

Based on what % of GDP

Its not this simple, GDP is not real money real money is the tax collections GOI gets and GOI takes debt on top of same to release budget …

So always see how much percentage of central budget goes to Defence…

4 Trillion GDP means nothing is when Indian Govt revenue is barely 370 Billion USD and spending almost 80 Billion from that is all India can do for now

Can you please show the tweet from Putin, it's banned here in UK

It's RT video.

View: https://x.com/DadaShastoni/status/1926073151487627730

 

[Nutcracker]

That slide with Mirage kill was for some drones, not Mirage 3/5s of pakistan, yes pakistani mirage were downed.

Just few pics in those collage were drone parts. whoever made it was quite stupid to use those pics with Mirage title, when OSINT had debunked it. But We literally have video footage of Atar engine of Mirage3/5 with soliders surrounding the debris. Mirage3/5 crash is reality.
@GaudaNaresh if porky Mirage3/5 crash is not reported on MB site, maybe seats are too old to be fitted with automatic report, or porky pilot did not eject , and went Kaput.

 

[Tumba]

Just few pics in those collage were drone parts. whoever made it was quite stupid to use those pics with Mirage title, when OSINT had debunked it. But We literally have video footage of Atar engine of Mirage3/5 with soliders surrounding the debris. Mirage3/5 crash is reality.
@GaudaNaresh if porky Mirage3/5 crash is not reported on MB site, maybe seats are too old to be fitted with automatic report, or porky pilot did not eject , and went Kaput.

There is no way for any MB seat ejection there is any signal sent to Britain, that basically means UK can track any fighter jet from overseas.
Don't believe this bull shit, there might be some homing beacon on seat which can be tracked locally thats different thing altogether.

So unless the buyer themselves dont accept any loss MB will not tweet anything.

 

[concard]

Now the real test is whether our supreme leader can go a extra mile and strike Porki military preemptively without reacting to another terror attack? Give it a few months, come fucking October take a big hit on one of their military assets. Keep increasing the cost for Porki military.

Until then keep a track of all their military assets and where they are stationed. We should have a heavy reconnaissance over all their forward air bases. We did operation sindoor without any element of surprise. Imagine with a element of surprise? Make up a story about one of their air bases being supply base for terrorists and level the damn thing to the ground. It would be great until then we know where their air defenses are and where exactly they have stationed J-10 fighters. From the looks of it because how strong our air defenses are it's likely they are stationed away from forward bases. I am sick and fed up of us simply reacting to these pigs.

Recently, we developed more powerful explosive than TNT called SEBEX-2. Build a powerful glide bomb with it to take out entire air base. If we have to destroy this abomination called Porkistan we need to rise the economic cost for them. Simply increasing our military budget is not enough.

 

[Tumba]

Now the real test is whether our supreme leader can go a extra mile and strike Porki military preemptively without reacting to another terror attack? Give it a few months, come fucking October take a big hit on one of their military assets. Keep increasing the cost for Porki military.

Until then keep a track of all their military assets and where they are stationed. We should have a heavy reconnaissance over all their forward air bases. We did operation sindoor without any element of surprise. Imagine with a element of surprise? Make up a story about one of their air bases being supply base for terrorists and level the damn thing to the ground. It would be great until then we know where their air defenses are and where exactly they have stationed J-10 fighters. From the looks of it because how strong our air defenses are it's likely they are stationed away from forward bases. I am sick and fed up of us simply reacting to these pigs.

Recently, we developed more powerful explosive than TNT called SEBEX-2. Build a powerful glide bomb with it to take out entire air base. If we have to destroy this abomination called Porkistan we need to rise the economic cost for them. Simply increasing our military budget is not enough.

I dont get this supreme leader nonsense,

Was there ever any precedent set in Republic of India history where any terrorist attack is responded by attacking terror camps inside pakistan proper and later basically decimating morale of paki military by striking at every nook and corner of pakistan?

What do u think would have happened if raul vinci or momotha begum PM at this juncture?

 

[Muzh]

Apart from the nuke angle any idea if working US defence personnel were also 72d when we struck the F16 hangars ? Is that why Orangegutan went ape shit ?

There were reports that two Turkish drone pilots were killed in Indian air strikes. I do not think US had any military personnel on any of the Pakistanese military bases. I could be wrong though.