Operation Sindoor and Aftermath (59 Viewers)

[Noob_Saibot]

yup, i don't get where this delusion about su-57 comes. If we get too many of them we will spend years in terms of manhours and fuck knows how many resources to get it to a decent functional state. This will also means AMCA is just dead in the water

Where is this bs coming from that it is not in a 'functional' state?

It's a more capable platform than anything in our inventory , straight out of the 'shop'.

CAn improvements be made? Sure. Does it need to be i tegrated with Indian tech? Yes.

But this assertion that somehow it is a useless platform that we will need to work for a decade on to get it functional is laughable.

 

[LastMythin]

Japan, Australia and SK are Asian equivalents of the UK and Germany these days, American stooges.

Their foreign policies are well and truly aligned with American goals of continued geopolitical hegemony in all major continents.

They do as their yankee overlords tell em to do...

Japan has been an official US vassal since the 1950's and soko an unofficial one. It is actually uk and germany who were "japanified" post cold war

 

[Noob_Saibot]

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Of course Russia did not stand by us. Our great EAM has been doing their best to piss them off.

But have a cursory look at our short history and see which country has unequivocally backed us in every conflict...

 

[Noob_Saibot]

those many su-57 means AMCA is just gone. We will panic buying 6th gen jets from mars in the year 2045 kek

Not really.

We need a f*** ton of airframes to make up the deficit in terms of squadron sizes.

We will have basically half our fleet retire in the next 10-15 years, potentially more.

Do the maths.

In fact having our hands on a 5th gen Su 57 means we will be able to use the knowledge and tech for accelerating the AMCA.

There is absolutely room for both in our AF in the long run.

As things stand now, we will have nothing.

 

[hit&run]

China just surrendered to usa ad lost the trade war by accepting tariff with allowing of chinese into us universities and removing rare earth metals hold.

So called china rise and superpower gone bust.Seems like those indian strikes made chinese realise that they are still sissies.


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Modi has stirred the swamp.
The US Army is out to protect its 8itch openly.
The Chinese have fallen in line and lost their bargaining chips. G2 is back on track with the Chinese humiliated forever.
India is now free from every compulsion and preaching from the West.
Indians rather getting engaed in ugly debated with Porkistanis work on bilateralism with willing partners and help Russians like China helped USA during cold war as a counter weight against NATO.
Yes, India should flip the paradigm of being a counterweight for others.

 

[indrajit]

US general praises Pakistan, motherlode of terrorism, as a 'phenomenal partner' - Times of India

US News: TOI correspondent from Washington: Despite acknowledging that a Pakistani national plotted terrorist attacks in America as recently as 2024, a top US .

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Shows you the hypocrisy, double standards and unmitigated selfishness of these American btards.

And our dear rulers have been trying to brownose these cu**s for a decade now and call them a 'friend' of India. All our foreign policy eggs have been put in the American basket, for what gains exactly?

And people think they will sell us F-35s...

These are venomous snakes, not to be trusted.

We have economic interests that we need to protect. There is no need to get overexcited at the General's remark. He's head of Centcom, Pakistan is in his jurisdiction. India is not. He wants Pakistani cooperation, he's going to sing praises. Kash Patel & Trump already did that when the Pakis extradited the ISIS guy .

The only point that I found silly was him saying that relations between US-Pak & US-India need not be/or isn't binary, i.e. having good relations with India does not preclude having good relations with Pakistan. Theoretically, he is correct but the US is not the sole arbiter of that. India has a say and that might actually mean that it is a binary position, whether he likes it or not.

 

[Noob_Saibot]

Japan has been an official US vassal since the 1950's and soko an unofficial one. It is actually uk and germany who were "japanified" post cold war

Technically true.

Count Australia in there too. Not to mention all the weak EU vassals in the NATO. Only France has demonstrated SOME independence.

 

[Viper316]

So their allegiances are clear and we should be clear in our foreign policy as well.

Only transactional engagement with Americ***s, where it is mutual interest. No strategic alignment with their geopolitical goals for Asia pacific.

No buying of strategic military assets from the hypocrites.

With China at least we know they are our adversary. They don't pretend to be our friend while funding and arming our enemies.

US was not and will never be a trust worthy ally or partner. The more we stay non aligned it will be embarrassing for US to set narrative on global stage, im afraid the lunatic Trump would arm pak just like West did during 80s & 90s. Operation Sindoor has taught us how to emerge as a dominant force even though no major power stood with us post Pahalgam. The only way to counter US and other bullys is to grow our economy and build stronger military.

 

[LastMythin]

Where is this bs coming from that it is not in a 'functional' state?

It's a more capable platform than anything in our inventory , straight out of the 'shop'.

CAn improvements be made? Sure. Does it need to be i tegrated with Indian tech? Yes.

But this assertion that somehow it is a useless platform that we will need to work for a decade on to get it functional is laughable.

being a functional plane and being a functional plane suited to our needs are 2 different things. Ruzzia is desperate so they will will agree to integrate a lot of our tech but that just means a few years gone in testing and integration(depending on what is on offer for integration and replacement). Ruzzia wants production in india becoz their production lines are stretched thin as is and it is good way to get mvdizi interested but that will take a few years. The most important thing AL51 IS NOT IN FULL PRODUCTION YET. It will take a few years and work from our end to get it working enough like the work like we had to do with al31s . Su-57 is better than all the 4th gens we have but that is not saying much, Can it be better than the hundreds of j35s and j20s xina is going to be throwing at us in few years?

 

[LastMythin]

Technically true.

Count Australia in there too. Not to mention all the weak EU vassals in the NATO. Only France has demonstrated SOME independence.

All anglo nations are just extensions of america atp. But dolund might be retarded to chase them away kek.

 

[indrajit]

Japan, Australia and SK are Asian equivalents of the UK and Germany these days, American stooges.

Their foreign policies are well and truly aligned with American goals of continued geopolitical hegemony in all major continents.

They do as their yankee overlords tell em to do...

Not so cut and dry. Plenty of nuance. Regardless, it's stupid to piss everyone off. Japan is pretty much funding the bullet train project at interest rates no one else will give. Trump is pissing off all allies and they will look elsewhere for opportunities. No need for us to close any doors.

 

[LastMythin]

Not really.

We need a f*** ton of airframes to make up the deficit in terms of squadron sizes.

We will have basically half our fleet retire in the next 10-15 years, potentially more.

Do the maths.

In fact having our hands on a 5th gen Su 57 means we will be able to use the knowledge and tech for accelerating the AMCA.

There is absolutely room for both in our AF in the long run.

As things stand now, we will have nothing.

Spending within the military is not going up to china level until the 40's in the best case scenario of continued economic growth at same 7%. Also i have zero trust in the abilities of leadership to successfully reverse engineer or get the know why of any tech without causing a incident. We dont have the han's copying talent or uniquely advantageous position they had geo politically

 

[shade2]

We joined because Shinzo Abe asked. Modi told him as much. We have partners other than the US. We don't need to piss everyone off.

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Of course Russia did not stand by us. Our great EAM has been doing their best to piss them off.

But have a cursory look at our short history and see which country has unequivocally backed us in every conflict...

We are a regional power bullying another country on the """"""allegations""""" of terrorism.
That is what Op Sindoor is in it's raw form, we imposing our will on a terrorist shithole, we are strong enough to do this and do not have to ((( prove ))) the """allegations"""

You would expect drama from the gora countries and especially US over sanctions, the Chongs doing something on the border and condemnations like how Ruzzia got, in the past we would be getting arms embargoes on us.

Yet nothing of the sort happened.

Meanwhile Endians just have to do rudali
"SAAAAR NOT ONE CUNTRY GAVE US PHOOOL SAPPORT SAAR, SEE SAAR AZHARBAIJAN, TOORKEY KHILAFA AND CHOWMEIN BHAIJAAN ALL SAPPORT PAKISTAN SAAAR, MUDI MUST REJINE!!!!!!!!!!"

There are no such things as "allies" for us, we are too big to not need 2x superpower abbas and one NATO abba, those who need, acquire such abbas.

As for us you can be assured the Russians, French and Jews would all rush shipments of gear if $$$ had been paid, and excluding the French maybe, the other two would even supply on buy now and pay later.

 

[Noob_Saibot]

We have economic interests that we need to protect. There is no need to get overexcited at the Genera'ls remark. He's head of Centcom, Pakistan is in his jurisdiction. India is not. He wants Pakistani cooperation, he's going to sing praises. Kash Patel & Trump already did that when the Pakis extradited the ISIS guy .

The only point that I found silly was him saying that relations between US-Pak & US-India need not be/or isn't binary, i.e. having good relations with India does not preclude having good relations with Pakistan. Theoretically, he is correct but the US is not the sole arbiter of that. India has a say and that might actually mean that it is a binary position, whether he likes it or not.

Yes, we do have significant economic interests in the US, whixh is why they have us by the balls in a way and we cannot outright defy them.

But we can definitely take a more neutral position going forward , geopolitically speaking. No quad bs, no toeing the US line on global issues.

And in the long term, think about how we can decouple ourselves economically from the US. We have the largest growing consumer base in the world so no reason why we should be so dependent on US economic ties in the long term.

 

[Viper316]

Americans planning some dirrty works in the land of terroristan. Multiple western military flights landed in pak in last 2 weeks.

 

[shade2]

Yes, we do have significant economic interests in the US, whixh is why they have us by the balls in a way and we cannot outright defy them.

But we can definitely take a more neutral position going forward , geopolitically speaking. No quad bs, no toeing the US line on global issues.

And in the long term, think about how we can decouple ourselves economically from the US. We have the largest growing consumer base in the world so no reason why we should be so dependent on US economic ties in the long term.

What is trying to sort out things with Choyna saar without asking for Uncle Sam's involvement
What is buying oil from Roosi and even having changa si relations with them?

Hell these Amerishart gandus wanted us to buy their F-whatever garbage but even in the Congressi times you don't have the bulk of our hardware coming from there, you have transport planes and P8I type specialist platforms.

Even today Rafale is cucking their F-786 planes the way things are currently going and with the current drama even Stryker seems dead in the water.

Amerisharts have always been snakes like their Anglo abbas, always supported their bitch Paapistan and likewise we have been practicing strategic autonomy

 

[chnvipgz]

Modi has stirred the swamp.
The US Army is out to protect its 8itch openly.
The Chinese have fallen in line and lost their bargaining chips. G2 is back on track with the Chinese humiliated forever.
India is now free from every compulsion and preaching from the West.
Indians rather getting engaed in ugly debated with Porkistanis work on bilateralism with willing partners and help Russians like China helped USA during cold war as a counter weight against NATO.
Yes, India should flip the paradigm of being a counterweight for others.

It's more than that ,china is bowing to usa as g1 and accepting it's hegemony.Whats the use of so called 20 trillion usd economy and ccp lolz.Xi and ccp elites have sold china dignity for their kids citizenship and money in the west complete surrender even worse than plaza accords by japanese.


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[Noob_Saibot]

We are a regional power bullying another country on the """"""allegations""""" of terrorism.
That is what Op Sindoor is in it's raw form, we imposing our will on a terrorist shithole, we are strong enough to do this and do not have to ((( prove ))) the """allegations"""

You would expect drama from the gora countries and especially US over sanctions, the Chongs doing something on the border and condemnations like how Ruzzia got, in the past we would be getting arms embargoes on us.

Yet nothing of the sort happened.

Meanwhile Endians just have to do rudali
"SAAAAR NOT ONE CUNTRY GAVE US PHOOOL SAPPORT SAAR, SEE SAAR AZHARBAIJAN, TOORKEY KHILAFA AND CHOWMEIN BHAIJAAN ALL SAPPORT PAKISTAN SAAAR, MUDI MUST REJINE!!!!!!!!!!"

There are no such things as "allies" for us, we are too big to not need 2x superpower abbas and one NATO abba, those who need, acquire such abbas.

As for us you can be assured the Russians, French and Jews would all rush shipments of gear if $$$ had been paid, and excluding the French maybe, the other two would even supply on buy now and pay later.

Which is how we should play it.

Be 'non aligned' in spirit and practice.

Support those who support us, oppose those who support our enemies...

 

[Doreamon]

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Favouring a Arms deal for geopolitical favor is the most pathetic thing to do . There is no replacement for your domestic industrial and technological capacity . A compromise on that is the compromise on hard as well as soft power .

 

[indrajit]

Americans planning some dirrty works in the land of terroristan. Multiple western military flights landed in pak in last 2 weeks.

I don't know what's happening but something seems to have occured in the last month to have Americans now singing praises of the Pakistan and for the US to welcome Asim Munir for a visit. Makes no sense otherwise. Pakistan has very little to offer and even fewer cards to play for the changed American behavior to make sense.

I have a strong feeling that we aren't getting the full picture. Things that we see simply don't add up.