Operation Sindoor and Aftermath (43 Viewers)

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how many loans are they gonna take to buy this :bplease:

like others said , should have gone full blast during op sindoor . golden opportunity lost . truly masterstroke of all time
These won't even leave parking. One thing was made abundantly clear in this op. IAF can hit anywhere, any target in paxtan with impunity. Pakis can't even hang dry cleaning in their airbases without us knowing about it. I think they should buy/beg for a few fancy toys like this. The hair-pulling chimpout next time will be even more glorious, when these are taken out within the first hour of engagement; without doing much or anything. To keep these alive from our strikes, pakis would need better layered AD coverage then the fucking Joos.​
 
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how many loans are they gonna take to buy this :bplease:

like others said , should have gone full blast during op sindoor . golden opportunity lost . truly masterstroke of all time
You know this is like the fish wiggling about. They can feel that their reckoning is coming.

Pakistan's 30-40 year strategic policy has now run it's course, their ability to punch above it's weight using sub-conventional means under the cover of nuclear weapons and deter India from use of force, has now ended.

Conventionally, they maintained a credible force but have no significant war sustainment capacity vis-a-vis India. War fighting has now changed with more focus on non-contact, standoff combat and capturing territory becoming secondary to attriting enemy war-fighting potential. They can fight if limited to few sectors or first few days of campaign (whole front) but after 3-7 days in a 10-I sort of campaign, they will be on their knees. War sustainment capacity needs substantial investment/spending and time, I don't think Pakistan can do this in next few years given their current economic conditions along with the prevailing global uncertainty (security & financial).

Re potential weapons they are getting from China, I think we should not focus on what ISPR and their government PR machinery puts out but rather on official communications and actions by China.

"Khali bartan jyada bajte hain"
For example, recently there has been chatter in Pakistan about having a submarine heavy force to ensure their sea lines of communication. But none of those geniuses care to explain how submarines which are meant for area/sea denial will ensure their sea lines of communication. Will they be shadowing commercial/merchant traffic in and out of Karachi, if so Indian navy will be most happy as that will reduce/limit submarine's primary advantage of stealth and mission flexibility.

If Pakistan think they can present a quid pro quo situation to India, they need to look at the map and geography again. Pakistan has a linear coastline of < 800 km available. India has geographically more favorably aligned coastline of > 1500 km from Mumbai down to southern point and > 2000 km from southern point to Kolkata, with dozens of ports connected to good road and rail infrastructure.

Just like during Op Sindoor, air traffic in Pakistan was pretty much nil, where as in India (Delhi and south) it was life as usual.
Also, Karachi marine traffic is already covered under potential Brahmos coastal batteries (450km) from Gujarat area (Bhuj and Jamnagar)
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OP sindoor report should be presented in parliament. They should present full detailed report on losses suffered by us, loses inflicted on enemy. Also they should tell how many aircrafts went down on may 7 initial attack.Our silence on these led to our narrative failure in international media. Reports should include, reasons for our aircraft downing,and steps to prevent these loses. After JPC should invite Airforce chief to parliament and question him regarding operational deficiencies and succeses. Transparent analysis is required to improve efficiency of IAF in long-term.
 

This asymmetry has been there since the 2019 Nowshera conflict. We are acting like bhikaris in this case since it has not been addressed for 6+ years, and we got lucky with Op Sindoor. Moot question is why is a 4T economy playing catch up?!? We probably need 20+ AWACS considering 2 active fronts and the govt/AF is still pussyfooting. We need this capability now, domestic/foreign does not matter. The domestic option can take its own sweet time to arrive!!
 
OP sindoor report should be presented in parliament. They should present full detailed report on losses suffered by us, loses inflicted on enemy. Also they should tell how many aircrafts went down on may 7 initial attack.Our silence on these led to our narrative failure in international media. Reports should include, reasons for our aircraft downing,and steps to prevent these loses. After JPC should invite Airforce chief to parliament and question him regarding operational deficiencies and succeses. Transparent analysis is required to improve efficiency of IAF in long-term.
Petitions should be filed in courts too and tarik pe tarik drama should also be started. Need to get to the bottom of this.:ghelyon:
 
No not CIA. It had something to do with 100 Paki Uniformed Men in Jaffar Express who were 72horrified. Pehlgam was Complete planning of ISI with help of China. Infiltration was already done in Peak winter, and Reccee was done in Feb+March after Train Hijack incident. Sat intel provided by chinese and encrypted satcom devices with custom made Huawei devices all imported from China. Intel sharing was done by CIA of incoming attack in march to Indian agencies. China wanted India to get involved in long conflict.
CIA thought conflict would be limited to POJ and POK. But when IAF started hitting Jacocabad, Sukur and especially RYK then US administration got worried as those 3 were part of Iran Plan. US admin has told Indian channels to tell Indian Intel to reduce the footprint in Baloch land. This is what is the sore point of Indian and US diplomacy. No assurance of Indian concerns. Purely Strategic and Business interest of US while India feels its interest are getting negated. This is a game of Tug of War being played in Disputed region of Balochistan between India, CHINA and US. India has strategic interests. China has business interests. US has both. And Pakis are Whores who anyone can fuck at their will.
Regards. Jai Hind
I am sure FM Erwin Munir Rommel has promised access to Baloch rare earth/minerals to the orange Nobel prize aspirant to hedge against Indian interference and Baloch liberation. Now there is skin in the game for unkil Sam and PRC. So for India to create to mischief, they need to contend with 3 powers instead of just Pak. Op Sindoor was a God send for us to break Paki land and we effed up by calling it off too soon. Lost sight of strategic objectives for inconsequential tactical gains.
 
This asymmetry has been there since the 2019 Nowshera conflict. We are acting like bhikaris in this case since it has not been addressed for 6+ years, and we got lucky with Op Sindoor. Moot question is why is a 4T economy playing catch up?!? We probably need 20+ AWACS considering 2 active fronts and the govt/AF is still pussyfooting. We need this capability now, domestic/foreign does not matter. The domestic option can take its own sweet time to arrive!!
Yeah somewhere around 60-70 years
By then nobody would be using AEWACS
 
Muniri lal k haseen sapne... They ain't giving such things to bhikaristan. It's all jumla by goat shaggers to keep their jahil qaum happy. No chance of China giving them their state of the art missiles which can easily fall in the hand murican engineers on a golden platter.
Even if they manages to get their hands on hypersonic missiles it wont make a big impact against a momoth industry which can churn out thousands of similar capable missiles indigineously . A failed nation who cannot design a 2stroke bike engine will not survive a prolonged war, operation sindoor exposed 2 realities, porki army & AF both are over hyped entity will surrender once we take down their air force assets, 2nd indigenisation is the game changer, state of art indigenously built will win us any war at any day
 
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I don't know how 90% of members in this forum will react when they come to know the real truth behind which side first flown the white peace dove and what was the compulsions .. its better to leave it here . Leadership believes they achieved a deterrence and its followers also think next time an attack happens it will be even more dramatic . all we can do this just wait and watch ..its only after the next attack we will come to know did actions on May 7th to 10th have created that deterrence which our side has think it achieved ..

Its purely in the hands of porki pigs now to call that bluff ..

until then we will just have to wait
Hey @Captscooby what did you mean by this?
Because everything now points to Pakistan being the one running for a ceasefire.
Maybe I misunderstood what you wrote here.

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how many loans are they gonna take to buy this :bplease:

like others said , should have gone full blast during op sindoor . golden opportunity lost . truly masterstroke of all time
They need a good air defence system more than anything 😂
Why do they add game changing to everything?
I hardly think that China will trust them now.
China is sending weapons to Iran & these these buggers are busy giving airspace to Americans for attacking Iran.
The whole nation is a dumb fuck.
 

I don't want to comment any more on that what i quoted .. I will stick my neck out again and say we were not in mood to escalate at all after 9th . We were given exit option for porki pigs too to have face saver exit but it was the asset loss and the pressure from forces to give a full free hand for one night operation led to do those base attacks and them immediately curtailed by the baboons ..i am still pointing my fingers to the leadership and not towards our forces and their determination and commitment . White flag was shown by our side first .
 
I don't want to comment any more on that what i quoted .. I will stick my neck out again and say we were not in mood to escalate at all after 9th . We were given exit option for porki pigs too to have face saver exit but it was the asset loss and the pressure from forces to give a full free hand for one night operation led to do those base attacks and them immediately curtailed by the baboons ..i am still pointing my fingers to the leadership and not towards our forces and their determination and commitment . White flag was shown by our side first .
I'm not trying to be combative here but you can't simply throw out these kind of snippets without any proof, that too in face of proof of the exact opposite.
 
I'm not trying to be combative here but you can't simply throw out these kind of snippets without any proof, that too in face of proof of the exact opposite.
okay let me say i was wrong or i am wrong , I won't be able to share proof of who shared that information to me . lets move on and stick with what the official narrative is the only one ..
 
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I don't want to comment any more on that what i quoted .. I will stick my neck out again and say we were not in mood to escalate at all after 9th . We were given exit option for porki pigs too to have face saver exit but it was the asset loss and the pressure from forces to give a full free hand for one night operation led to do those base attacks and them immediately curtailed by the baboons ..i am still pointing my fingers to the leadership and not towards our forces and their determination and commitment . White flag was shown by our side first .
I am also thinking on similar lines. Modi wanted the incidents of May 7th to be a "one night thing" and had no plans beyond those initial bombings. EAM Jaishankar who complained about "We told Pak that we will bomb only terrorist hideouts and not Pak civilian and military centres and strikes would be of non escalatory nature." left even his most ardent admirers wondering if this guy an upscale fool. The loss of Indian air assets because we did not perform SEAD/DEAD beforehand, pissed off Indian defence establishment so much that they asked Modi and Jaishankar to STFU and sit down carried out the mission of demolishing PAF. It was only when US assets were hit or came under threat that Doland rang up both the sides.
 
The below flight activity recorded 2 days before, as per the call sign and aircraft registration it is supposed to be UAE airforce bombardier but in actual flight history of UAF1303 it never entered pak airspace.

Did porkis used UAE airforce registration to spoof us at LOC.? Or if it is a UAE AF registered aircraft what was it doing in GB

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okay let me say i was wrong or i am wrong , I won't be able to share proof of who shared that information to me . lets move on and stick with what the official narrative is the only one ..
No, actually, I apologize for doubting you. I didn't realize you are the same person from DFI. My bad.
 

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