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[Azaad]

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In recent years, there has been a significant disparity between the number of Chinese students studying in the US and the number of US students studying in China. While nearly 300,000 Chinese students are enrolled in US institutions, the number of American students studying in China is significantly lower, with estimates ranging from around 700 to 12,000.

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And China's supposed to have 5 universities among the top 100 universities in the world.

The world's top 100 universities

Discover the top 100 universities in the world, based on the latest QS World University Rankings.

www.topuniversities.com

 

[rockdog]

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And China's supposed to have 5 universities among the top 100 universities in the world.

The world's top 100 universities

Discover the top 100 universities in the world, based on the latest QS World University Rankings.

www.topuniversities.com

Not correct, just HK has 5



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How US suspicion is pushing Chinese researchers into Beijing’s arms

How US suspicion is pushing Chinese researchers into Beijing’s arms

Amid worsening China-US relations, many beleaguered Chinese academics and researchers targeted by the US government are choosing to return to China. Lianhe Zaobao senior correspondent Chen Jing tells us more about what this means for academia in both China and the US.

www.thinkchina.sg

Reverse Brain Drain? Exploring Trends among Chinese Scientists in the U.S.

Reverse Brain Drain? Exploring Trends among Chinese Scientists in the U.S

sccei.fsi.stanford.edu

 

[Azaad]

Not correct, just HK has 5

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How US suspicion is pushing Chinese researchers into Beijing’s arms

How US suspicion is pushing Chinese researchers into Beijing’s arms

Amid worsening China-US relations, many beleaguered Chinese academics and researchers targeted by the US government are choosing to return to China. Lianhe Zaobao senior correspondent Chen Jing tells us more about what this means for academia in both China and the US.

www.thinkchina.sg

Reverse Brain Drain? Exploring Trends among Chinese Scientists in the U.S.

Reverse Brain Drain? Exploring Trends among Chinese Scientists in the U.S

sccei.fsi.stanford.edu

Good , that's 10 universities in the top 100. So how come 3,00,000 Chinese students are studying ONLY in the US.

If we collate information about other western countries it'd likely be double that of the statistics for the US.

Besides with 10 universities in the top 100 universities in the world ranking list how come only 12,000 US students are studying in China ?

You can add the ones in Hong Kong to the list as well . Say another 12,000 students. Do note these are on the higher side.

So we've some 24,000 US students studying in China compared to 3,00,000 Chinese students in the US. Now the US is no friend of China which is the reason they're curtailing access to the Chinese students in a lot of areas .

Yet Chinese students flock to the US. And as per Great Helmsman 2.0 China's already a developed nation striving to be the most developed nation in the world , displacing the US , by 2049 - the centenary of the establishment of the PRC.

At the outset of WW-2 you didn't have German students in the UK or France in such huge numbers or vice versa. This points out to a very fundamental flaw in the way Zhongguo is operating.

 

[rockdog]

At the outset of WW-2 you didn't have German students in the UK or France in such huge numbers or vice versa. This points out to a very fundamental flaw in the way Zhongguo is operating.

Ghandi was educated in UK, he knew how to fight with British in 1947.

Nehru also did, but didn't quite understand Eastern and China, part of reason his mismanagement in 1962.

 

[rockdog]

Good , that's 10 universities in the top 100. So how come 3,00,000 Chinese students are studying ONLY in the US.

If we collate information about other western countries it'd likely be double that of the statistics for the US.

Besides with 10 universities in the top 100 universities in the world ranking list how come only 12,000 US students are studying in China ?

You can add the ones in Hong Kong to the list as well . Say another 12,000 students. Do note these are on the higher side.

So we've some 24,000 US students studying in China compared to 3,00,000 Chinese students in the US. Now the US is no friend of China which is the reason they're curtailing access to the Chinese students in a lot of areas .

Yet Chinese students flock to the US. And as per Great Helmsman 2.0 China's already a developed nation striving to be the most developed nation in the world , displacing the US , by 2049 - the centenary of the establishment of the PRC.

At the outset of WW-2 you didn't have German students in the UK or France in such huge numbers or vice versa. This points out to a very fundamental flaw in the way Zhongguo is operating.

China has fairest and hardest entrence exam as gaokao.

This yr 13millions students were participated. only score matters. mid and upper class wants to QS100, only go abroad. It allows low class and rurual kids enjoy super cheap college system inside China.

I remember in 1999, our tuition for semester in college was 4500rmb, now It's 5500rmb (800USD), almost didn't changed for 25 yrs.



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[rockdog]

Good , that's 10 universities in the top 100. So how come 3,00,000 Chinese students are studying ONLY in the US.

If we collate information about other western countries it'd likely be double that of the statistics for the US.

Besides with 10 universities in the top 100 universities in the world ranking list how come only 12,000 US students are studying in China ?

You can add the ones in Hong Kong to the list as well . Say another 12,000 students. Do note these are on the higher side.

So we've some 24,000 US students studying in China compared to 3,00,000 Chinese students in the US. Now the US is no friend of China which is the reason they're curtailing access to the Chinese students in a lot of areas .

Yet Chinese students flock to the US. And as per Great Helmsman 2.0 China's already a developed nation striving to be the most developed nation in the world , displacing the US , by 2049 - the centenary of the establishment of the PRC.

At the outset of WW-2 you didn't have German students in the UK or France in such huge numbers or vice versa. This points out to a very fundamental flaw in the way Zhongguo is operating.

China has fairest college entrance system, only socre matter. The whole society think fair education is the bottom line.

A movie star, created $0.3billion box office, cheated in Gaokao 15 yrs ago. Now She got fully banned forever on stage.

Chinese society is 0 tolerance on cheat in Gaokao.



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[Azaad]

China has fairest and hardest entrence exam as gaokao.

This yr 13millions students were participated. only score matters. mid and upper class wants to QS100, only go abroad. It allows low class and rurual kids enjoy super cheap college system inside China.

I remember in 1999, our tuition for semester in college was 4500rmb, now It's 5500rmb (800USD), almost didn't changed for 25 yrs.



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So in other words for all those billion dollar bullet train projects to nowhere & the hundreds of ghost towns you create , you say you don't have resources to create 100 new universities or is this tacit acknowledgement of the fact that you simply lack capacities to compete with the west ?

Or perhaps those Chinese universities in the top 100 are there only coz the CCP funds it to boost the rankings of these universities in the world as part of its propaganda but they can't replicate the same across more universities in the country.

Moreover not a single child of the CCP membership leave alone your top leaders have not had a foreign education ever since Comrade Deng launched his reforms.

This doesn't have anything to do with low fees or capacities , which is also a genuine problem , this has more to do with the widespread perception in China that the best universities in the world are in the west & the best of Chinese universities don't compare to their counterparts in the west.

These are not just perceptions , I may add , these are just plain facts.

 

[rockdog]

So in other words for all those billion dollar bullet train projects to nowhere & the hundreds of ghost towns you create , you say you don't have resources to create 100 new universities or is this tacit acknowledgement of the fact that you simply lack capacities to compete with the west ?

Or perhaps those Chinese universities in the top 100 are there only coz the CCP funds it to boost the rankings of these universities in the world as part of its propaganda but they can't replicate the same across more universities in the country.

Moreover not a single child of the CCP membership leave alone your top leaders have not had a foreign education ever since Comrade Deng launched his reforms.

This doesn't have anything to do with low fees or capacities , which is also a genuine problem , this has more to do with the widespread perception in China that the best universities in the world are in the west & the best of Chinese universities don't compare to their counterparts in the west.

These are not just perceptions , I may add , these are just plain facts.

You can build HSR and skyscrapers in 5 yrs, but universities need time to accumulate, based on decades scale.

Mid and upper class family, want to bring kids to QS100, if the kids not capable in China, then send to them abroad.

Here are 13million kids this yr, if 20% are rich mid class, which means 2.6 million kids, and China only has 20-50 QS200.

You actually no need to bring ideology in every post to debate.

It's purely as economic choice: education is marketing supply, if you can't get enough supply domestically, you go abroad to purchase.

 

[helin]

You can build HSR and skyscrapers in 5 yrs, but universities need time to accumulate, based on decades scale.

Mid and upper class family, want to bring kids to QS100, if the kids not capable in China, then send to them abroad.

Here are 13million kids this yr, if 20% are rich mid class, which means 2.6 million kids, and China only has 20-50 QS200.

You actually no need to bring ideology in every post to debate.

It's purely as economic choice: education is marketing supply, if you can't get enough supply domestically, you go abroad to purchase.

It doesn't matter whether it's a black cat or a white cat

A cat that catches mice is a good cat.

The founders of these great Chinese technology companies, such as Huawei, ByteDance, deepseek, BYD, CATL, Tencent, Alibaba and DJI, were all cultivated by Chinese universities

 

[Azaad]

You can build HSR and skyscrapers in 5 yrs, but universities need time to accumulate, based on decades scale.

China opened up to the world in 1979 . That's more than 45 years ago whereas Peking University & Tsinghua University were already in existence then .

Besides while it may take longer to establish a world class university it's nowhere as expensive as creating a ghost city or building a 5 billion USD HSR line to nowhere which doesn't report profits even a decade after operation nor does it carry the number of passengers intended.


This means there was no need for such an HSR in the first place except to boost GDP numbers . That money could've been utilized to establish not one but ten world class universities but that wouldn't boost up your GDP or give bragging rights to the CCP since as you rightly pointed out these things take time.

Mid and upper class family, want to bring kids to QS100, if the kids not capable in China, then send to them abroad.

Not true for all such kids. Most don't even bother about Gaokao if they have the money to go abroad & get admission to top most universities of the world much better anything Zhongguo has to offer.

Even you would do it if you passed the Gaokao & had the money to go abroad. Unfortunately for you , you failed Gaokao , didn't have enough money to go abroad & conveniently had an uncle well placed in the CCP to land you into the MSS in spite of lacking the requisite qualifications & here we are.

Here are 13million kids this yr, if 20% are rich mid class, which means 2.6 million kids, and China only has 20-50 QS200.

Yes I asked you why didn't the CCP create that many colleges & universities after making education universal & state subsidised ?

After all they've been in power for 75 years or in any case as I've pointed out earlier it's been 45+ years since the reforms of Comrade Deng .

Why didn't the CCP foresee with better standards of living would come more aspirations especially in a country like Zhongguo which has always prized education ?

Result - now you've highly qualified people with no jobs , CCP not releasing unemployment data at all or data for the age group between 21-40 & Great Helmsman 2.0 making speeches asking the Chinese youth to "eat bitterness " reminiscing about his experiences as a student during the cultural revolution.

Besides , you don't see a proportionate number of Japanese or South Korean students vis a vis their populations studying in the US do you ? How come it's true only of China ?

You actually no need to bring ideology in every post and debete.

It's your ideology which is responsible for a lot of wrongs in Zhongguo especially lop sided developments & priorities.

Also another reason the TFR in China is rapidly plunging. Near 100% literacy , focus on women's education & emancipation as per CCP ideology & policies . Successfully curb population growth & then realise this is counter productive.

All those women you've educated aren't going to get married & have children just because the CCP thinks that's the right way now.

It's purely as economic choice: education is marketing supply, if you can't get enough supply domestically, you go abroad to purchase.

That's exactly the problem here. You have forgotten the ways of your ancestors. They didn't commercialise education. It's the present generation which has done so with the result you're seeing what you are.

 

[helin]

China opened up to the world in 1979 . That's more than 45 years ago whereas Peking University & Tsinghua University were already in existence then .

Besides while it may take longer to establish a world class university it's nowhere as expensive as creating a ghost city or building a 5 billion USD HSR line to nowhere which doesn't report profits even a decade after operation nor does it carry the number of passengers intended.


This means there was no need for such an HSR in the first place except to boost GDP numbers . That money could've been utilized to establish not one but ten world class universities but that wouldn't boost up your GDP or give bragging rights to the CCP since as you rightly pointed out these things take time.



Not true for all such kids. Most don't even bother about Gaokao if they have the money to go abroad & get admission to top most universities of the world much better anything Zhongguo has to offer.

Even you would do it if you passed the Gaokao & had the money to go abroad. Unfortunately for you , you failed Gaokao , didn't have enough money to go abroad & conveniently had an uncle well placed in the CCP to land you into the MSS in spite of lacking the requisite qualifications & here we are.

Yes I asked you why didn't the CCP create that many colleges & universities after making education universal & state subsidised ?

After all they've been in power for 75 years or in any case as I've pointed out earlier it's been 45+ years since the reforms of Comrade Deng .

Why didn't the CCP foresee with better standards of living would come more aspirations especially in a country like Zhongguo which has always prized education ?

Result - now you've highly qualified people with no jobs , CCP not releasing unemployment data at all or data for the age group between 21-40 & Great Helmsman 2.0 making speeches asking the Chinese youth to "eat bitterness " reminiscing about his experiences as a student during the cultural revolution.

Besides , you don't see a proportionate number of Japanese or South Korean students vis a vis their populations studying in the US do you ? How come it's true only of China ?



It's your ideology which is responsible for a lot of wrongs in Zhongguo especially lop sided developments & priorities.

Also another reason the TFR in China is rapidly plunging. Near 100% literacy , focus on women's education & emancipation as per CCP ideology & policies . Successfully curb population growth & then realise this is counter productive.

All those women you've educated aren't going to get married & have children just because the CCP thinks that's the right way now.

That's exactly the problem here. You have forgotten the ways of your ancestors. They didn't commercialise education. It's the present generation which has done so with the result you're seeing what you are.

The status of the quality of Chinese universities in the world

The same as the total gdp - second in the world

 

[helin]

Not correct, just HK has 5

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And

How US suspicion is pushing Chinese researchers into Beijing’s arms

How US suspicion is pushing Chinese researchers into Beijing’s arms

Amid worsening China-US relations, many beleaguered Chinese academics and researchers targeted by the US government are choosing to return to China. Lianhe Zaobao senior correspondent Chen Jing tells us more about what this means for academia in both China and the US.

www.thinkchina.sg

Reverse Brain Drain? Exploring Trends among Chinese Scientists in the U.S.

Reverse Brain Drain? Exploring Trends among Chinese Scientists in the U.S

sccei.fsi.stanford.edu

The university rankings in Hong Kong and Singapore are both excellent

The reasons are huge investment, English education and internationalization.

However, university education in Japan cannot be denied

The first in Asia is China and the second is Japan

 

[Azaad]

The status of the quality of Chinese universities in the world

The same as the total gdp - second in the world

Are you normally in the habit of seeing a movie after the intermission ? Scroll up to check out all the posts made by me in this regard.

 

[helin]

Are you normally in the habit of seeing a movie after the intermission ? Scroll up to check out all the posts made by me in this regard.

I've seen them all.

Universities in China are as excellent as high-speed railways.

This is the greatest miracle in 40 years

 

[Azaad]

I've seen them all.

Universities in China are as excellent as high-speed railways.

This is the greatest miracle in 40 years

Good then also be content with 300000 of your compatriots going to the west for education in spite of "your education being as excellent as your HSR "which you think is "the greatest miracle in 40 years."

 

[rockdog]

The university rankings in Hong Kong and Singapore are both excellent

The reasons are huge investment, English education and internationalization.

However, university education in Japan cannot be denied

The first in Asia is China and the second is Japan

I think universities ranking for HK and Singapore in QS are exaggerated, since QS is more considering factors with international communications.

Plus lots Chinese universities are hiding on the list.

eg. PLA S&T universities (国防科大)，even demanding similar scores as Tshinghua and Peking universitiy.
And there are 10 PLA universities with toughest entrance score as other C9 colleges.