Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

Do you think a Military response going to happen?.


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Something is amiss this time. The noise and hula-hoopla is too much. You don't do military operation with so much overt, visible actions.

For example, overt provocative statements, high-intensity meetings, announcement of spectacular air excercises, moving of navy.

Feels like either a diversion or bluff. Hope its not the latter.

it is neither.
Its called posturing about intent to war.
What this does, is it FORCES your adversary to match combat deployment to the minimum security detterent level they can.
Which is what we want.
Whether we go to war or not, what we DEFINTELY want to do, is to exhuast PakMil strategic fuel reserve. Its far smaller than India's, their ability to source it within home ( as refined product - strategic military reserve isnt crude but refined oil) and pak refining capabilities are a joke.

We did this in 1971 too btw most people dont know - we postured around for six months, forcing pakMil to match us and burn through their strategic oil reserve. THEN we attacked.
This is why Pakistan in 1971 had strategic fuel reserve for 3 week war when they finally went for broke.
 
Something is amiss this time. The noise and hula-hoopla is too much. You don't do military operation with so much overt, visible actions.

For example, overt provocative statements, high-intensity meetings, announcement of spectacular air excercises, moving of navy.

Feels like either a diversion or bluff. Hope its not the latter.

It's a bluff or a stunt to bleed them by keeping them in perpetual readiness mode.

Muneera green-lit this attack expecting a retaliation for which they are prepared, it would be dumb to attack them head on, and with the usual low intensity saargical straikes and balakot bombing.

Knowing our old man it's most likely a sequel to Op. Parakram though, all smoke and no fire.

As I said have no expectations
 
I can't believe how some of us here can be so high to think that full blown war is in India's best interest. It is not. Not in any way. Its the last resort and it has to be escalated and imposed by pakistan on us.

Some of you guys here have ascribed our slow economic growth to terrorism. It is categorically wrong. From 2000-2016 we faced regular terror attacks even in our metro cities still our country continued to grow. It was our economic policies that had put a spanner in our economic growth. It is those policies which lead to the birth of naxalism in India. It is only after liberalization it became feasible and tenable to rid mumbai of its mafia raaj.

Yes, Terrorism takes a toll. Also, we can't let the foe spill the blood of our innocent civilians. Its the duty of the state to protect them and guarantee the security of our Hindu population. Invaders shall not enjoy that protection.

So, a detterent and exemplar action must take place. If need be let us go to full war. But try to do it without full scale war. We have more to loose in a full blown war. We can achieve the same objective differently. Our objective is to solve the problem of terrorism. Its biggest inspiration is pakistan and the idea of pakistan. So, its destruction of pakistan state that is our objective. Not annihilation of green pigs alone. We need to think strategically guys. We need to leverage our strengths and impose a cost on pakistan. To this effect we need to know who will inherit that geography. That new geography should not exist in the form of pakistan. It should exist in the form of Nation State of Sindh, Nation State of Baluchistan, Nation state of punjab, Nation state of Paktunwa. There should be no pakistan state but multitude of states.

How we do that? A full blown war just annihilates the pakistan govt and not state. Pakistan military brass is happy to throw expendable green meat in the grinder. They have enough Airforce and military to inflict heavy casuality on us. By destroying lahore or islamabad we don't hurt them much. Those are usurpers they will loot from their own civilians. Our govt can't. Even destruction of Delhi will cost us a trillion dollar atleast. I am sure they can inflict that cost on us in full scale war. How much cost can we inflict on them. Also we don't even achieve our objective.

So, our only reliable and sure pathway is slow cooking of the pakistan. Let us impose economic blocade on them make them land locked. Now, there supply chains will run from Iran and Afganistan. It helps insurgents baluchs and taliban more. They can entrench themselves more in their regions. Let us seize them and starve them. We should couple it with by locking their military personnel on Indian border. The more we lock them on International border the less they can interfere with insurgents. Our objective is to empower insurgents. We should not let the conflict zone extend more than 30KM from our borders. We should slowly creep forward montly in this war.

A full scale war is more harmful to us and redundant when we can achieve the same objective in much more economical way. We have the leverage and we should put it full use. The objective is to finish the idea of pakistan. If you don't have any idea how to do it. Then please don't do your rona dona here. Full Scale war response is not the correct response.

Its just like Americans fighting in Vietnam. You are not killing the idea of vietnam. You are just favoring a form of govt. Our objective is to kill the idea of pakistan. WE can do so only when the insurgents in pakistan are powerful, just like East pakistan of 1971. India succeeded at that time because East Pakistan had it enough with west pakistan. So, we need to have sindhi's, baluch's, pastun's to have it enough with punjabi dominated pakistan. We can do it when we starve them. Thats why IWT is important. Now we will gain ability to control their water. An informal naval blocade will make them landlocked and their supply chains will run from Iran or Afganistan. It empowers the baluchs and talibanis more. Locking their personnel in a low intensity limited conflict over an extended period of time allows the insurgents to bridge the power gap between pakistan army. This is what we need to do. We need to slow cook them and splinter into pieces. We can do all it while ourselves gaining economic weight and lubricating our industrial complex. Let us choose the best option.

I agree with all of your points. But there is one problem with your argument. We have another enemy who has claim to our territory and undermines us where ever possible. This enemy also supports the enemy which we want to destroy. Now in the near future we have to go up against this bigger enemy. If we have an all out war and if we are weakened, don't you think we will be giving a cake walk to China? How do you defend your argument if China is in the equation?
 
🚨Flash News:

Following India's decision to stop the Indus river water to Pakistan, local in Marala Headworks report that water level in the Chenab river is drastically gone down

Date : 24/04/2025
Location:
Marala Headworks
Chenab River
Sialkot, Punjab,
Pakistan
 
1) Ceasefire and Shimla agreement officially are revoked.
2) Nearby areas and villages next to LoC are being emptied
3) Heavy mobilization of equipment and essentials in the last 24 hrs (2 C17s and Israeli support)
4) IWT annuled and impacts are being felt in the water flow
5) INS Vikrant now stationed close to where it should be (for a potential blockage if things go south)
6) Russia and other countries pulling their citizens from Pak (maybe a comms went out to friendlly countries from MEA)
7) Exercise Aakraman in the Central Theater with Rafaels and even good old Bison 21

All the above are tell tale signs that its not going to be another balakot strike and back More likely Special ops....It'll definetely be bigger and possibly PoK capture...The objective here should be pretty simple convert loc to IB . Push enough area to clear all rats in PoK , GB etc to establish a clear IB...Capture and start the fencing process.
Priest King annoucing stuff is English is optics for the world...On ground UD needs to make a foolproof plan submit to HM and finally get greenlighting from DM and Priest King.
More like Sunday evening or Monday evening...Till then relax and enjoy.
How accurate is the information is there any source as i myself is situated near a sensitive zone and i dont see anything unusual.
Ins vikrant i can confirm but mobilization and villge evacuation i need to verify.
 
Somewhat un-serious topic, but it seems the Atmanirbhar Defense bros on twitter, and Import-khor orop bootlicker accounts have called a truce, and both groups are ratios pakis and other mlecch swines wherever they are found.
 
Source based... no need to believe.

What's currently going on in internal areas of that state are cleaning operations to ensure that logistics are not targeted behind the army's back once they put their foot forward. There are 100+ SSG trained elements inside waiting for this very purpose once it escalates.
 
.eons ago there was something called cold start
. during op parakram lot of cauality occured during mobilization accidents
.balakot strike
,op retort, friendly fire
. recently there was example of Russia Ukraine warfare

There were lot of learning done, if lessons are properly imbibed results will be our tactical and strategic victory

. Loss of equipment and manpower and small sliver of land will happen in any skirmish (aka smo)

During china conflict 1960s
people of chinese descent were put in camps , maybe expelling of pakis is to avoid that.

Anyway SMO may happen or maynot happen but as a keyboard warrior we should be thinking of real world , actual choices and actions that are possible etc..
 
1) Ceasefire and Shimla agreement officially are revoked.
2) Nearby areas and villages next to LoC are being emptied
3) Heavy mobilization of equipment and essentials in the last 24 hrs (2 C17s and Israeli support)
4) IWT annuled and impacts are being felt in the water flow
5) INS Vikrant now stationed close to where it should be (for a potential blockage if things go south)
6) Russia and other countries pulling their citizens from Pak (maybe a comms went out to friendlly countries from MEA)
7) Exercise Aakraman in the Central Theater with Rafaels and even good old Bison 21

All the above are tell tale signs that its not going to be another balakot strike and back More likely Special ops....It'll definetely be bigger and possibly PoK capture...The objective here should be pretty simple convert loc to IB . Push enough area to clear all rats in PoK , GB etc to establish a clear IB...Capture and start the fencing process.
Priest King annoucing stuff is English is optics for the world...On ground UD needs to make a foolproof plan submit to HM and finally get greenlighting from DM and Priest King.
More like Sunday evening or Monday evening...Till then relax and enjoy.

Well Well Well, we are special operations.


Source based... no need to believe.

What's currently going on in internal areas of that state are cleaning operations to ensure that logistics are not targeted behind the army's back once they put their foot forward. There are 100+ SSG trained elements inside waiting for this very purpose once it escalates.

0.5 front removal. I want to shut down all media near the alleged War zones if we are going.
 
Somewhat un-serious topic, but it seems the Atmanirbhar Defense bros on twitter, and Import-khor orop bootlicker accounts have called a truce, and both groups are ratios pakis and other mlecch swines wherever they are found.
A lot of people fighting on minor issues unite to kick pkaistan's ass everytime. I think even hindi vs kannada/marathi/tamil language warriors must have given up differences temporarily
 
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