Air India AI 171 Crash in Ahemdabad (5 Viewers)

Maybe the alarm system failed. It happens too.

The alerting, if programmed, would be 3 ways -
- on MFD
- sound alarm
- Master Caution LED blinking

Within the limits of speed the aircraft doesnt show any warning..and with gear extended you cannot reach high speed or high altitude.
Ok, the article says they flew at 230 knots throughout, that's below gear limits.
But then the avionics programming is a gamble with damaging the aircraft & lives of passengers & crew.
This should be considered as potendial danger warning - low speed flying alert for extended period at higher altitude.
Also, 737 for example has 3 LED indicators for LGs. But 787 doesn't seem to have them.
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The SOP of announcing, performing, checking & acknowleging the actions was not followed.
But just glancing the MFD for a quick check would have revealed the LG positions.
The rectangle with DOWN in green color changes to box with UP in white color.

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Usual conversion tactics. Whole list of it.
But this should be investigated.
If this was a CIA job then what would USA gain by dowing its own MNC's jet?
Perhaps they want to defame our private sector as we are not in mood for F-35 & PPP for AMCA is coming up.
I'm not buying into the whole conspiracy thing. It could just be Boeing being shitty as a plane maker. Recent events have made it abundantly clear that they are indeed cutting cost at the expense of safety.
 
Be it a technical malfunction, sabotage by an enemy state or pilot error. Whatever may be the reason behind the ill fated Air India Boeing 787's crash, we will know everything in due time, or at least what the Indian government wishes to make public to the world.

To everyone, I understand that this is a time of grave confusion for the Indian & Global Aviation community but all I see are more and more conspiracy theories.

I won't bring them up here but one thing that really upsets me is how some people are using this incident to engage in content farming. I just saw some idiots online post the video of Yeti Airlines Flight 691's crash (Which happened back in early 2023 in Nepal) and title it as "Air India Flight 787's Final Moments caught on tape" + some stupid emojis + ridiculous BGM.

Also I saw one account post a video of a mummy's corpse from Egypt (Or some other place) and title it as "Dead body of Gujarat's EX CM Vijay Rupani", seriously? How stupid is that, and it's even more surprising how some people are so gullible enough to fall for it.

One more thing that I didn't like was seeing people upload videos of the bodies from the crash site. Just the other day I saw my account watching some reels on Instagram showing the dead burnt remains of the passengers, it was absolutely sickening for me to watch them. I do not think that it's a right thing to upload such horrific visuals online, without any "gruesome" spoiler alert. And the most disgusting thing with respect to this incident isn't the people doing content farming or posting gruesome visuals of the bodies of the victims, but rather the flood of racist comments by Westerners and ofcourse from our neighbours. Seriously, have people lost all of Their humanity? Kaha gaye ap sabke insaaniyat? Westerners were literally rejoicing over the dead bodies of the passengers and passing vulgar and racist comments. And also those people who were posting those laughing emojis on FB on that post. Can't believe what this world has stooped down too.
 
Be it a technical malfunction, sabotage by an enemy state or pilot error. Whatever may be the reason behind the ill fated Air India Boeing 787's crash, we will know everything in due time, or at least what the Indian government wishes to make public to the world.

To everyone, I understand that this is a time of grave confusion for the Indian & Global Aviation community but all I see are more and more conspiracy theories.

I won't bring them up here but one thing that really upsets me is how some people are using this incident to engage in content farming. I just saw some idiots online post the video of Yeti Airlines Flight 691's crash (Which happened back in early 2023 in Nepal) and title it as "Air India Flight 787's Final Moments caught on tape" + some stupid emojis + ridiculous BGM.

Also I saw one account post a video of a mummy's corpse from Egypt (Or some other place) and title it as "Dead body of Gujarat's EX CM Vijay Rupani", seriously? How stupid is that, and it's even more surprising how some people are so gullible enough to fall for it.

One more thing that I didn't like was seeing people upload videos of the bodies from the crash site. Just the other day I saw my account watching some reels on Instagram showing the dead burnt remains of the passengers, it was absolutely sickening for me to watch them. I do not think that it's a right thing to upload such horrific visuals online, without any "gruesome" spoiler alert. And the most disgusting thing with respect to this incident isn't the people doing content farming or posting gruesome visuals of the bodies of the victims, but rather the flood of racist comments by Westerners and ofcourse from our neighbours. Seriously, have people lost all of Their humanity? Kaha gaye ap sabke insaaniyat? Westerners were literally rejoicing over the dead bodies of the passengers and passing vulgar and racist comments. And also those people who were posting those laughing emojis on FB on that post. Can't believe what this world has stooped down too.
There is a saying in Punjabi ..
Never laugh at someone's death , someday people will die at your house ..
These racist comments of the neighbors and firangs will be replied in kind ..
 
Be it a technical malfunction, sabotage by an enemy state or pilot error. Whatever may be the reason behind the ill fated Air India Boeing 787's crash, we will know everything in due time, or at least what the Indian government wishes to make public to the world.
One reason why I want GOI to leave the investigation to the appropriate parties.

It is the job of the investigating authority to determine what caused the accident and to report its findings. It is not the job of the investigating authority to determine what caused the accident but to report findings palatable to GOI.
 


I guess like me many people got angry that why media is NOT circulating the original high-res video.
And finally it is reaching the pilots & professional analysts.

If i was an independent journalist, i would have directly tagged all those media channels & asked why are they still playing "video of video". :mad: :rage:

So guys please don't waste your time on any old "video of video" with endless speculations, just for TRP.

But the pilot Steve says now that the loud bang heard by lone survivor was RAT deploying.
There is some discrepancy in this.
RAT deploys quickly in a second but does it cause a bang noise?

The blackbox decode could take few days after AAIB, NTSB, DGCA guys assemble & the prelim report could take up to 1 month.

Meanwhile for discussion, we can try to arrange things in a timeline -
- the bang, what exactly - short circuit, eternal object hit, sabotage, etc.
- loss of primary electricals &/or hydraullics
- flickering of passenger cabin lights
- loss of thrust
- RAT deployment
- loss of altitude
 
On possibility of software glitch:

A historical example of dual engine shutdown:
The ANA 787 incident happened in 2019 & if we deep-dive into the cause then it is complicated.
Boeing clarified that the engines can shutdown as thrust reverser were activated too quickly before ground condition achieved which activated the TCMA or Thrust Control Malfunction Accommodation system which guards against inadvertent asymmetrical high thrust situations. The TCMA would notice high thrust at idle or low speeds on ground w/o decceleration, so engine would be shutdown to reduce speed.
It is like FADEC logic suspects intentional suicidal kind of attempt by pilot & tries to prevent it w/o checking that the high thrust is for reverser, not forward thrust. Now that's obviously programming glitch.

But this is takeoff situation. So i can think of an ECC glitch,
any other system glitch?
 
Debunking Captain Steeve

Pilots Dogfight over RAT

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Many people already debunked him since beginning.

Leave pilot, engineer, other techies, a sensible citizen/enthusiast should say "1st show me the original video", the system diagrams.
But these days even pilots want popularity. On smallest scoop they'll make a video.
Very few try to educate public.
 

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