Air India AI 171 Crash in Ahemdabad (22 Viewers)

Likely causes..

1.Flaps up before gear up…basically stalling the lift…fully human factor.

2.Both engine fail…impossible to recover.

3.Single engine fail…recoverable.

4.Flight control surface jammed…hard recovery specially at 400 ft.

5.Fuel flow compromised or fuel corrupted.
 
COLDHEARTED AVIATOR said:
Some new footage i saw where the plane seems to be in clean configuration ie no flaps.
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Hm. It's increasingly looking like pilot error then as things stand. I hope something comes out of this incident - whether it's shoddy training (doubtful, for pilots as experienced as those at the cockpit for the doomed flight), overworked/tiresome schedule or even corruption of some sort. These passengers shouldn't have to have perished for nothing.
 
Decahex said:
Hm. It's increasingly looking like pilot error then as things stand. I hope something comes out of this incident - whether it's shoddy training (doubtful, for pilots as experienced as those at the cockpit for the doomed flight), overworked/tiresome schedule or even corruption of some sort. These passengers shouldn't have to have perished for nothing.
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8000 hours captain

2000-3000 hours first officer

This is a experienced crew.
 
iNorthernerOn9 said:
Just my musings:

Crash of an "Air India" plane which is made by "Boeing" and maintained by a "turkish" firm in "Gujarat" one month after paki getting thrashed.

Air India: which was recently sold to tata by BJP

Gujarat: Home state of PM

All planned to put muck on BJP and put GOI on backfoot.
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One more...

Comes days after tata joining hands with Dassault for Rafale manufacturing in India... effectively shutting any chance for American origin 4.5 generation jets.
 
COLDHEARTED AVIATOR said:
It can be manually deployed but why would the pilots do that.

They didnt even lift the gear up.
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To me so far it looks like a dual engine failure, this is supported by RAT deployment.

Had it been not a complete engine failure i.e. they were still getting much lower than expected thrust, then they would not have deployed RAT.

Flaps is what I struggling to explain, maybe they retracted it to reduce drag to clear the medical college complex. The probability of them taking off with wrong flap settings and experiencing dual engine failure too, is minuscule (almost an impossibility). The crash was inevitable once they took off and suffered dual engine failure, I think retracting flaps was a mistake as they lost whatever lift they had and maybe could have avoided the medical college.
 
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