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She may be a collie, but what was wrong in what she was saying in this instance?


When ill educated people with no sense for culture or discipline migrates to a land where there is discipline and decorum, they almost never integrate unlike the educated ones. But the fall outs are also felt by the educated migrants because the ruffians' culture and language is same as theirs, and the foreigners wouldn't be able to distinguish between them.
 
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She may be a collie per your opinion, but what was wrong in what she was saying?


When ill educated people with no sense for culture or discipline migrates to a land where there is discipline and decorum, they almost never integrate unlike the educated ones. But the fall outs are also felt by the educated migrants because the ruffians' culture and language is same as theirs, and the foreigners wouldn't be able to distinguish between them.
What integration we are talking about here ? Is it about complete erasure of ancestral roots ?
Is it about not raising your voice for being called out ?
What is it that Indians in US/UK should do to qualify for this so called integration?
 
LOL! This Brown coolie rightly deserved it......

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He is not brown coolie. He never apologised for him being a Hindu. He never was an Indian and therefore, those expect him to align with India automatically because of his ancestral links, are fools.

He held his own in the minefield that is conservative politics of USA and he hasn't waivered till now.

The problem with us Indians is that we start to believe that anyone with a connection to India should automatically be pro-India. Why? India itself is not homogenous and there are people aplenty living in India and even belongs to the ruling political classes, who acts more like a brown coolie than Vivek ever had.

What Vivek is facing is what he has been facing since the beginning of his campaign and he was never fazed. It is not a news that there are White Supremacist arseholes among the Trump support base. But like the ultra-right-wingers like me in India don't have anyone but BJP to vote, they also cannot but vote Trump and RNC. So, they are just given lip service and it is the independent voters who swung the table toward Trump this time around, and RNC knows that very well. Vivek, Tulsi et al are more like liberals than republicans. But they are smart enough to know that going independent in US is a loss loss scenario.
 
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What integration we are talking about here ? Is it about complete erasure of ancestral roots ?
Is it about not raising your voice for being called out ?
What is it that Indians in US/UK should do to qualify for this so called integration?
The minimum integration is to act civilly, follow the law and don't ask for special privileges that is not available for the natives.

Most ill-educated migrants fail in the first 2 counts and some goes about asking for the 3rd.

Again, not unique to India. When a nation stops filtering the migration applicants or fails to stop illegal migration, these are bound to happen. Happened in US, Canneda, most of EU except likes of Hungary, Poland and Switzerland. All the last 3 nations have strict immigration rules and quick to kick out anyone not towing the lines.

Heck, in India we are seeing how migration of uneducated migrants impact the social fabric. Bangladeshis used to be known as cultured people in Kolkata till the rising numbers of illegals changed that perspective.
 
The minimum integration is to act civilly, follow the law and don't ask for special privileges that is not available for the natives.
So as per you Indian origin people are uncivil? Don’t follow the local laws ? They do crimes ? Form criminal gangs ? Don’t contribute positively to the society?

What privilege are we talking about here that Indian origin Americans/Britons are getting?
And who are the natives btw ? Native Americans?
Most ill-educated migrants fail in the first 2 counts and some goes about asking for the 3rd.
Correct me if I am wrong but Except for demand for caste privileges similar to India by Bhimta gangs, I don’t think anyone is demanding anything there.

Again, not unique to India. When a nation stops filtering the migration applicants or fails to stop illegal migration, these are bound to happen. Happened in US, Canneda, most of EU except likes of Hungary, Poland and Switzerland. All the last 3 nations have strict immigration rules and quick to kick out anyone not towing the lines.

Heck, in India we are seeing how migration of uneducated migrants impact the social fabric. Bangladeshis used to be known as cultured people in Kolkata till the rising numbers of illegals changed that perspective.
No one supports illegal immigration to any country . Whole paragraph is just an insignificant word salad to fill the space.
 
So as per you Indian origin people are uncivil? Don’t follow the local laws ? They do crimes ? Form criminal gangs ? Don’t contribute positively to the society?

What privilege are we talking about here that Indian origin Americans/Britons are getting?
And who are the natives btw ? Native Americans?

Correct me if I am wrong but Except for demand for caste privileges similar to India by Bhimta gangs, I don’t think anyone is demanding anything there.


No one supports illegal immigration to any country . Whole paragraph is just an insignificant word salad to fill the space.
Do you understand the exception and rule concept?

No. India origin people are mostly civil. But there are also certain elements who are not. What do you think is happening in Kanneda? Are those Khalistanis Indian Origin or not? They even have gangs in California.

First understand what I was saying, then respond.

There has been an influx of illegal immigrants from India too in both Kanneda and US as well as EU. Even if most of them stay away from causing stirs, not all are. There has been a recent rise of antagonism against Indian diaspora in Kanneda party fueled by Kahlistanis and partly because various Indian-origin criminal gangs. Do you think those won't affect the reception?

The woman whom you quoted is a collier of west, but she was not wrong in this specific aspect.
 
She may be a collie, but what was wrong in what she was saying in this instance?


When ill educated people with no sense for culture or discipline migrates to a land where there is discipline and decorum, they almost never integrate unlike the educated ones. But the fall outs are also felt by the educated migrants because the ruffians' culture and language is same as theirs, and the foreigners wouldn't be able to distinguish between them.

In Britain the local Mirpuris rape the blone haired and blue eyed native little girls and engage in all sorts of other criminal activities and not a peep is heard about them from the Anglo masses because of "Islamophobia".

The Police, Bureaucracy and Political class brushes this under the rug so nothing is heard from them either.

At the end of the day it is how much political and other power an immigrant group wields, a direct function of it's unity and cohesiveness.

Indians in both the North American countries in general seem to lack this.
 
So as per you Indian origin people are uncivil? Don’t follow the local laws ? They do crimes ? Form criminal gangs ? Don’t contribute positively to the society?

What privilege are we talking about here that Indian origin Americans/Britons are getting?
And who are the natives btw ? Native Americans?

Correct me if I am wrong but Except for demand for caste privileges similar to India by Bhimta gangs, I don’t think anyone is demanding anything there.


No one supports illegal immigration to any country . Whole paragraph is just an insignificant word salad to fill the space.
I think he is talking in context of unregulated Indian immigration to Canada. and Umrica. Untill 2010 the migrants to Western Sphere were mostly vetted and Britain was more of a "ajao kuch na kuch kar lega" state. The recent immigrants to Canada do not care to understand the customs of Gora nations and just immigrate without a thought. The dehati going to Canada arent white collar skilled workers or Valuable Graduates but are just another Bsc pass looking for toilet cleaning and waiter job. They are not their to excel but thrive and make it or even if he fails he knows that Canadas support system will rescue him. I doubt the desi guys lining up for food banks are people with Stable high paying jobs. The former wont do this but a dehati has no shame, he has habit of exploiting back home and he will do the same in Canada.

You see lad I have a feeling that Indians can never truly Integrate into White Western society even more so than black. Why is that? because we know who we are and where we came from. Indians who leave India still look upto India the Whites of America dont look back to Europe as much even black dont because they don't have any memory of Africa.

There are reasons for this:-
Not the same Religion: White who moved here practiced Christianity same for Blacks and Latinos.
A native population: The closest kin to these immigrants live in India many immigrants still have family back home so they will continue to have connection with their Original landmass.
A connection with native culture: Modern media allows Indian immigrants to still be connected to its heritage. This wasn't possible back in the 1800s for European when most of their Migration happened and so European migrant shed their previous identity and adopted the Collective American culture.
 
In Britain the local Mirpuris rape the blone haired and blue eyed native little girls and engage in all sorts of other criminal activities and not a peep is heard about them from the Anglo masses because of "Islamophobia".

The Police, Bureaucracy and Political class brushes this under the rug so nothing is heard from them either.

At the end of the day it is how much political and other power an immigrant group wields, a direct function of it's unity and cohesiveness.

Indians in both the North American countries in general seem to lack this.
It is not porkies but Islamists in general who manipulate the democracy disproportionate to their numbers because of their herd mentality where they pick a pack leader and follow fatwas of his or corum made of such pack leaders without a second thought. Their lack of proper education or even enlightenment that could provide them with basic individual moral or ethical code make it possible for creating such herd. This is common everywhere they gather. They gradually grow into numbers and then dominate by manipulating the democracy. Same is happening for Khalistanis in Kanneda.

Hindus - especially the educated ones - can never be moulded into such a group because independent thought is a basic part of being a Hindu. Unfortunately when this individualistic character growth helps a person on individual level, their political dominance become even more muted than what their numbers would otherwise represent.
 
Hindus - especially the educated ones - can never be moulded into such a group because independent thought is a basic part of being a Hindu. Unfortunately when this individualistic character growth helps a person on individual level, their political dominance become even more muted than what their numbers would otherwise represent.

There is another tribe that prides itself on muh independent thought and muh intellectoolism
That (((Tribe))) was thrown out of it's homeland some 1500 years ago and after being genocided and pogrommed for a total of 3000 years before and after they decided to be united and organize...

And actually regained their ancestral country

I really wish our diaspora organizes on the whole 9 yards, GoI support, rich individuals lobbying and donating to r*ndi academics and think tanks and politicians, large votebanks forming, diaspora boys getting into police,military, bureaucracy without being coolies.

Otherwise everyone will step on them.
 
Do you understand the exception and rule concept?

No. India origin people are mostly civil. But there are also certain elements who are not. What do you think is happening in Kanneda? Are those Khalistanis Indian Origin or not? They even have gangs in California.

First understand what I was saying, then respond.

There has been an influx of illegal immigrants from India too in both Kanneda and US as well as EU. Even if most of them stay away from causing stirs, not all are. There has been a recent rise of antagonism against Indian diaspora in Kanneda party fueled by Kahlistanis and partly because various Indian-origin criminal gangs. Do you think those won't affect the reception?

The woman whom you quoted is a collier of west, but she was not wrong in this specific aspect.
I was talking about the India Americans specifically and that too related to this H1b incident
 

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