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Please calm down both.
 

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Please accept my appreciation on the way you've outwitted & will shortly pauperise Tesla on behalf of the Indian membership here.

Kindly pass on our congratulations to the MSS & thru them onto the CCP & the state apparatus with the message that they ought to replicate this with Apple, Samsung, the entire Western automotive ecosystem like they've done with the solar & wind power sector & then proceed to replicate this move in every sector possible across the West.

The gwailou must pay for the century of humiliation. What better way than to adopt the capitalistic way of the gwailou with Chinese characteristics of massively subsidising Chinese companies across sectors after absorbing technology from the same West thru coercive transfer of technology, stealing, copying, reverse engineering, espionage etc. & then deploying them against the West. Job well done.
 

View: https://twitter.com/DivaJain2/status/1942440250531537137?s=19

Please accept my appreciation on the way you've outwitted & will shortly pauperise Tesla on behalf of the Indian membership here.

Kindly pass on our congratulations to the MSS & thru them onto the CCP & the state apparatus with the message that they ought to replicate this with Apple, Samsung, the entire Western automotive ecosystem like they've done with the solar & wind power sector & then proceed to replicate this move in every sector possible across the West.

The gwailou must pay for the century of humiliation. What better way than to adopt the capitalistic way of the gwailou with Chinese characteristics of massively subsidising Chinese companies across sectors after absorbing technology from the same West thru coercive transfer of technology, stealing, copying, reverse engineering, espionage etc. & then deploying them against the West. Job well done.

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View: https://twitter.com/DivaJain2/status/1942440250531537137?s=19

Please accept my appreciation on the way you've outwitted & will shortly pauperise Tesla on behalf of the Indian membership here.

Kindly pass on our congratulations to the MSS & thru them onto the CCP & the state apparatus with the message that they ought to replicate this with Apple, Samsung, the entire Western automotive ecosystem like they've done with the solar & wind power sector & then proceed to replicate this move in every sector possible across the West.

The gwailou must pay for the century of humiliation. What better way than to adopt the capitalistic way of the gwailou with Chinese characteristics of massively subsidising Chinese companies across sectors after absorbing technology from the same West thru coercive transfer of technology, stealing, copying, reverse engineering, espionage etc. & then deploying them against the West. Job well done.

Let me tell you my opinion, in modern economic terms globalization has not ended.

What do i mean by that?

Let me exemplify it.

China can be the factory of the world, but any factory need customers, The west knows it, and the west is unwilling to let their industries to be destroyed by China.

Result tariffs
, they close their markets, simple like that, then China has overcapacity and that leads to deflation, deflation leads to lower profits and economic crisis, same Happened to Japan.

Now what is Globalization?

Let me exemplify it with aviation.

Day by day technology is increasing sophistication, mass production is increasing and investment in R&D grows, so nations choose joint ventures, Joint ventures lead to free trade,


Free trade is a direct result of joint ventures,
free trade always leads to custom unions, and this to common markets, this ends in common currencies and a common government.


This will lead to a world government.


Example today aircraft are a globalized business, many nations do work in that way, China has JF-17 for example.

Even Russia is offering a Joint venture to India and Latin America in sukhoi super jet.

Embraer is the Airbus of the poor and even Boeing works that way.

China will not defeat the west, Globalization will defeat every one, and the nations that understand better globalization will lead the world government but is not about national power but class struggle that means the Rich will help only the rich, the elite that wins is going to be the best organized.

And in that BRICS can not compete sorry, too much contradictions and to exemplify China sold weapons to Pakistan, is China really India`s ally?
 
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Once regarded as a “wealth-building machine” for a generation, internet cafes flourished with large customer flows and high internet fees, fueling numerous entrepreneurial success stories. However, in less than 20 years, this once-thriving industry has rapidly declined, turning into a “money-losing black hole.” High rent, labor costs, and a shrinking customer base have made it difficult for many internet cafe operators to survive. A small setback could lead to the closure of their business.
 

China discovers significant source of lithium ores​

(Xinhua) 11:01, July 09, 2025
CHANGSHA, July 8 (Xinhua) -- China, among the world's largest holders of lithium reserves, has discovered a massive deposit of 490 million tonnes of lithium ore in central Hunan Province, the provincial department of natural resources said Tuesday.

The deposit, found in the Jijiaoshan mining area in Linwu County, has been classified as an altered granite-type lithium deposit, containing about 1.31 million tonnes of lithium oxide, according to the department.

It also contains other minerals such as rubidium, tungsten, and tin, added the department.

Due to complex geological conditions, the discovery was made possible through advances in exploration technologies and years of exploration work, according to the Mineral Resources Survey Institute of Hunan Province, which led the project.

Xu Yiming, a professor with the institute, said that the newly discovered lithium reserve would provide resources for the city of Chenzhou, which administers Linwu, to further develop its new-energy industry.

Lithium is a critical element with a wide range of applications, including in electric vehicles, energy storage systems, and mobile communications.

The China Geological Survey under the Ministry of Natural Resources said in January the country's lithium reserves had increased to 16.5 percent of the global total, propelling it to the second place in the world rankings.
 
BEIJING (Reuters) -China's producer deflation deepened to its worst level in almost two years in June as the economy grappled with uncertainty over a global trade war and subdued demand at home, piling pressure on policymakers to roll out more support measures.

While consumer prices rose for the first time in five months, the uptick was marginal as a prolonged housing market downturn in the world's second-biggest economy added to headwinds from U.S. President Donald Trump's tariffs on trading partners.

The producer price index fell 3.6% in June from a year earlier, worse than a 3.3% decline in May and the largest drop since July 2023. That compared with forecast of a 3.2% slide in a Reuters poll.

Some export-oriented industries are under pressure in price terms, said Dong Lijuan, NBS statistician.
"The uncertainty in the global trade environment has affected the export expectations of enterprises," Dong said.

China's factory activity shrank for a third month in a row in June, albeit at a slower pace, with employment and new export orders still languishing.

"We expect demand to weaken later this year, as exports slow and the boost from fiscal support diminishes," said Zichun Huang, China economist at Capital Economics.

Market reaction to the data was cautious as Trump ramps up his trade war. China's Shanghai Composite Index was up 0.3% by the midday break, while Hong Kong’s benchmark Hang Seng traded down 0.7%.

As subdued domestic demand remains a drag on China's economy, companies have resorted to price discounts to boost sales, prompting the authorities to urge an end to the auto industry's bruising price wars.
Highlighting the tepid consumer market, Chinese e-commerce giants Alibaba and JD.com have pledged heavy subsidies over recent months to expand aggressively into fast deliveries.

A diverging trend in consumer prices likely indicates "the effects of the consumer goods trade-in scheme," Huang said, but added that "with this boost likely to fade soon, we expect underlying inflation to decline again later this year."

The consumer price index edged up 0.1% last month from a year earlier, reversing a 0.1% drop in May and above a Reuters poll prediction of an unchanged outcome.

The consumer price uptick was "mainly due to a rebound in industrial consumer goods prices," NBS's Dong said.

On a monthly basis, the CPI was down 0.1% versus a 0.2% decline in May, and in line with economist forecasts of a 0.1% drop.
Core inflation, excluding volatile food and fuel prices, spiked to 0.7% in June from a year earlier, the highest in 14 months.

Lynn Song, ING's chief economist for China, said the recent relative strength of the yuan and persistently soft inflation will give the People’s Bank of China room to cut rates further later in the year.

"With activity data softening slightly in recent months, but not signalling a sense of immediate urgency, we currently expect the next rate cut to come in the fourth quarter."

(Reporting by Qiaoyi Li and Ryan Woo; Editing by Shri Navaratnam)




China's snaps 4-month consumer decline but factory price deflation deepens

 

Let me ask you a Public apology, I was rude with you, please I ask try to see the truth, the truth is we are all humans, and in the world there is good and bad actions, people choose either one or the other, Toxic nationalism is bad, a WWIII will affect us all the same, no winners or losers, there in the world people who only look for power, not for love and truth, we have to be those who look for truth and follow the golden rule, which is basically do to others what you want them to do unto you.

The forum is to exchange ideas, we might not always agree, but sincerely I wish you the best, and ask you an apology for being rude regardless i was right or wrong, being tolerant is also part of the truth.

Regards
 
Let me ask you a Public apology, I was rude with you, please I ask try to see the truth, the truth is we are all humans, and in the world there is good and bad actions, people choose either one or the other, Toxic nationalism is bad, a WWIII will affect us all the same, no winners or losers, there in the world people who only look for power, not for love and truth, we have to be those who look for truth and follow the golden rule, which is basically do to others what you want them to do unto you.

The forum is to exchange ideas, we might not always agree, but sincerely I wish you the best, and ask you an apology for being rude regardless i was right or wrong, being tolerant is also part of the truth.

Regards

Apology taken, and i also apologize for some of my aggressive words. Peace and Love!
 


There are misinformation in the vid and you bought it.

I think the video mixed some clips of bull poop into the normal muddy party.

The muddy party normally inspired by Rock & Roll tradition, especially of Woodstock festival.

 
Apology taken, and i also apologize for some of my aggressive words. Peace and Love!
You do not need to worry, all we deserve respect, and there is a term in Judaism called hilul Hashem, it means when religious people by doing evil, make God and Judaism look bad, I have an atheist Brother, who likes China he is my real elder brother, he is 62 years old, he knows moral values and has a decent behavior, sometimes better even than me, I have Jewish family in Israel, but we always study the Torah (old testament). I have also Jewish family in Mexico

If you want to know why I say Jerusalem is the world capital is because it is written in the old testament that, I see history and prophecy together, and there are many prophecies regarding China`s ascend as world power, and if you want to know Chinese are semites, not in current language but in origin according to the Jewish scriptures.

Anyway you can not understand me if you do not know where my ideas come from. I am Christian anyway.

I know both India and China are great nations, but like i said to you I am western in nature, and I have a western world view, regardless If I am right or not, but everybody deserves respect and all of us, we are humans with the same rights and importance.

Saludos and sorry if I was rude to you
 
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Chinese Cars Were A Laughingstock. Now They're Dominating Safety Charts​

Crash tests reveal what nobody could imagine a decade ago: Chinese-made cars are now some of the safest out there.​


Iulian Dnistran
By: Iulian Dnistran
Jul 11, at 6:21am ET
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  • Chinese-made cars, and EVs in particular, dominate this year’s European safety charts.
  • Euro NCAP, the independent body that crashes cars to find out how safe they are, has given 18 five-star awards so far this year.
  • Most of them are Chinese-made EVs.
Chinese cars used to be known for being ripoffs of Western cars. Many of them were janky, with designs that looked like they were phoned in, and powertrains that had a habit of not working. Safety was not on the priorities list, either, but that has changed dramatically in the last few years.

We’ve been saying for a while here on InsideEVs that the Chinese car industry is way ahead of the United States. And now, looking at the latest crash test results from Europe, it’s clearer than ever that Chinese companies are here to disrupt the old way of doing business.

Five stars. That’s what most automakers out there are aiming for when bringing a new car to the market. Customers who are concerned about their safety are also looking for the same thing. Euro NCAP’s crash test safety rating, along with its global equivalents such as Latin NCAP and ANCAP, is the gold standard in the industry, and it’s one that can make or break an up-and-coming automaker’s future. The same goes for the American IIHS and NHTSA testing.
So here comes the reality check. Out of the 28 cars tested by Euro NCAP this year, 18 got the highly coveted five-star rating, and 13 of them are made in China. Moreover, out of the five-star models, 11 are Chinese-made EVs.

Sure, some of the models on this list are the products of European or American companies, such as the Tesla Model 3, Mini Cooper E, and Polestar 3, but there’s no denying that the engineering that went into them had a great deal of input from China. Moreover, let’s not forget that a fair few Chinese-based automakers also made the cut, including Zeekr, Voyah, Geely, Cherry, Hongqi and Jaecoo. MG, which is British at heart but based in China, also has a five-star EV.

Some of you might remember an old episode of Top Gear where two of the hosts went to China to test the country’s cars. Suffice it to say, it was anything but impressive. However, in that segment, which aired more than a decade ago, the hosts agree on the fact that “everybody will be driving Chinese cars,” seeing the industry’s rate of progress.

So, here we are now. China went from the laughingstock of the car industry to a leader in EV powertrains, in-car infotainment systems, and now safety ratings. This leaves Western automakers to play catch-up with a country they once dominated.
 

Chinese Cars Were A Laughingstock. Now They're Dominating Safety Charts​

Crash tests reveal what nobody could imagine a decade ago: Chinese-made cars are now some of the safest out there.​


Iulian Dnistran
By: Iulian Dnistran
Jul 11, at 6:21am ET
Share
5
Comments
  • Chinese-made cars, and EVs in particular, dominate this year’s European safety charts.
  • Euro NCAP, the independent body that crashes cars to find out how safe they are, has given 18 five-star awards so far this year.
  • Most of them are Chinese-made EVs.
Chinese cars used to be known for being ripoffs of Western cars. Many of them were janky, with designs that looked like they were phoned in, and powertrains that had a habit of not working. Safety was not on the priorities list, either, but that has changed dramatically in the last few years.

We’ve been saying for a while here on InsideEVs that the Chinese car industry is way ahead of the United States. And now, looking at the latest crash test results from Europe, it’s clearer than ever that Chinese companies are here to disrupt the old way of doing business.

Five stars. That’s what most automakers out there are aiming for when bringing a new car to the market. Customers who are concerned about their safety are also looking for the same thing. Euro NCAP’s crash test safety rating, along with its global equivalents such as Latin NCAP and ANCAP, is the gold standard in the industry, and it’s one that can make or break an up-and-coming automaker’s future. The same goes for the American IIHS and NHTSA testing.
So here comes the reality check. Out of the 28 cars tested by Euro NCAP this year, 18 got the highly coveted five-star rating, and 13 of them are made in China. Moreover, out of the five-star models, 11 are Chinese-made EVs.

Sure, some of the models on this list are the products of European or American companies, such as the Tesla Model 3, Mini Cooper E, and Polestar 3, but there’s no denying that the engineering that went into them had a great deal of input from China. Moreover, let’s not forget that a fair few Chinese-based automakers also made the cut, including Zeekr, Voyah, Geely, Cherry, Hongqi and Jaecoo. MG, which is British at heart but based in China, also has a five-star EV.

Some of you might remember an old episode of Top Gear where two of the hosts went to China to test the country’s cars. Suffice it to say, it was anything but impressive. However, in that segment, which aired more than a decade ago, the hosts agree on the fact that “everybody will be driving Chinese cars,” seeing the industry’s rate of progress.
So, here we are now. China went from the laughingstock of the car industry to a leader in EV powertrains, in-car infotainment systems, and now safety ratings. This leaves Western automakers to play catch-up with a country they once dominated.

Yes

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