Chit Chat

[Ultraman]

It's not a ceasefire.

View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1921199994008129550?t=kwoP3lr_YWWXkXDJo2vpmw&s=19

told u , its temporary

possible proper cease fire will be negotiated or its back to booom booom

 

[arjuntank]

Prithviraj syndrome again .
We don't know what to do with enemies and muslims.
Hindus fate is destroyed by too much magnanimity.
Prithviraj showed Kindness and got destroyed and India was taken over by muslims.
Then when Marathas were doing well in 1700s, India was conquered by British. And now war after war we are giving free hand to porks.

 

[The Shrike]

Who is lying man MEA presser says no one intervened then why did we agree for ceasefire at jet speed in an hour?
Orange man claiming he mediated. What kind of cuck diplomacy is this.
Seriously we shouldn’t trust these orange burger yankees. Man I’m worried for our Tejas MK1A and MK2 which has yankees engines they can show us middle finger anytime.
Hope safran/ rollys Royce agree to produce joint engines with us holding IP rights. IAF should stay far away from that fatty F35 if we need 5th gen desperately go for half baked su 57 which will give us strategic autonomy to operate.

Orange retard's admin may or may not have facilitated the ceasefire but he will take full credit for it - Also if it breaks down expect him to take it as a personal insult and apply even more pressure on us.

 

[Aseny2k]

View: https://x.com/AMK_Mapping_/status/1921215882501464474

 

[asaada]

Guys pak asked to stop IAF air raids on Pakistan that is bombing their Air bases and we agreed. The LoC is disputed so CFV continues as usual. They keep shelling we will respond for their shelling.. poor people across LoC will suffer as always

My heart goes out to the people living in the border areas. The amount of people who have been killed or injured, whom will never see justice is truly heartbreaking. These people are always the first to be pushed into the meat grinder. As a nation, we’ve done a great disservice to our own by letting these inbred, genocidal freaks go scot free.

 

[Divine Light]

And who is in-charge of MEA? Who heads the council of ministers that the MEA is a part of? Such a big thing as a ceasefire with a country you are at semi-war with couldn't possibly have come if not for Prime Ministerial assent. Modi has a right to claim his wins such as eradicating terrorism from everywhere but J&K (and some adjacent areas), repealing Article 370, etc but he has to own up to the losses and this ceasefire as of now looks like a loss to me as of now (I'll apologize if he pulls le masterstroke with this somehow).

So that's your logic. Then abolition of Article 370 is an achievement of MHA and MEA, modi has nothing to do with that.

Faltu excuses mat do.

I am not trying to defend Mudiji here despite declaration as his slave.

If we focus on only Mudiji, the MEA will go scot free again. What will the leader do if his whole office is against his decisions?

GoI is not legislative alone. That's reality of GoI. But judges and baboons hide behind politicians and let politicians take the hits.

 

[Vikram314]

earlier today i wrote that some guys are overanalyzing this de-escalation thing. I would like to apologies for that. You guys were correct. No amount of trillions or economic gain will change our gandhian mindset. Every time our military delivers, babus cuck out at the end.

• Anyway few lessons to learn here

1. We have to improve our Information warfare game. GOI and MOD have to think this domain like any another battlefield and improve on it.
2. increase our offensive and defensive cyber capability( looking at china)
3. air defense is flawless but an indigenous version of s400- project kusha should be operationalized as soon as possible.
4. An indigenous jet engine is no brainer, we need this as soon as possible with FastTrack operationalization of lca mk1a and mk2. Also FastTrack AMCA program.
5. buy whatever artillery baba Kalyani has. Buy as much indigenous stuff as possible.
6. Next time allow NAVY to play on the frontfoot.
7. Fastrack super sukhoi program( complete this within 5 years).
8. Bury mrfa and buy 100 + rafale.

this is pretty much i can think of right now.

Lastly have to thank armed forces for completely dominating the pigs in offensive and defensive ops.

 

[Divine Light]

Modi gives direction to the MEA babooze

His goals were, from what we have seen and we can guess,

>Banging the Piglets in a visible way to sate the desire of supporters for vengeance
>Clapping them back properly for any Swift Retards
>No damage to our Ekanami and investor pigeons
>No Ching involvement with a hot war

All goals have been met.

From our perspective we have landed a few good hits on the piglets in Op Sindoor, parried all their counters in the next 2-3 days, and then just before we could slit their throat, Sultan Dolund held our hand.

I am not being an IT Celliya here or master-stroker but just telling the guys to temper their expectation.

Finishing the Paki problem doesn't seem to figure in the Govt's priorities, it is always dealt in an ad-hoc manner so there is no point being hyped for a paki bund-blasting war that will delete their conventional capability.

Immediate objectives are met. But longterm are effed up by MEA.

 

[Aseny2k]

View: https://x.com/Tar21Operator/status/1921212362637394112

 

[phakepraful]

Is there a confirmation that Operation Sindoor has ended?

 

[jaijaganath]

My heart goes out to the people living in the border areas. The amount of people who have been killed or injured, whom will never see justice is truly heartbreaking. These people are always the first to be pushed into the meat grinder. As a nation, we’ve done a great disservice to our own by letting these inbred, genocidal freaks go scot free.

Tbh
Losses haven't been announced yet on both the sides
Everyone has taken considerable losses
And I personally have no problem about the hits we have taken
Doesn't matter we lose rafale or any other aircraft
Doesn't matter we lose men in uniform
Doesn't matter if our cities being targeted by enemy drones and loss of common man's property happen
Doesn't matter our citizens on borders due

If we obtain any significant objective
All we took was for Americans?
Bcoz they are ultimate beneficiary of this entire conflict
They got unimaginable leverage over pakistan, now they will cut all chinese influence and make pakistan their dog again
In return they will arm pakistan in order to kill kafirs
Who said abrahamic religions don't have unity

 

[indus_markII]

So this 56 inch gorment couldn't even demand immediate handover of Azhar and Hafiz Saeed as a pre-condition for ceasefire?

As I think more about this ceasefire, it gets worse. Absolute blunder.

One tv anchor I don't remember, today jokingly said Masud Azar has never been seen after Balakot 2019. Who knows ifhe is alive or dead ...

 

[brat4]

The information warfare has just begun. We need a frickin database to debunk every lie of Pakistan in every forum, Reddit, quora wherever.

Maybe a thread with just confirmed kills or hits on Pakistan assets to begin with. And bombard them with those images

 

[Lord Voldemort]

"When a larger power attacks a smaller power, anything short of a conclusive victory is a defeat."

Very apt

 

[spikey360]

No amount of material preparation will ever compensate for the mentally unprepared.
I see no members hailing Modi's capitulation as masterstroke. Does it mean they have finally seen the mask fall off?

 

[Cyclops]

Regardless of what happens in the next 24 hours but maybe the children of our civilian government and military elite should be dissuaded/prevented from going to get brainwormed in some liberal westoid college.

 

[spikey360]

CFV broken in 2h, fire cuck bitch Jayshankar immediately.
Never trusted the fellow, gut feeling was right on this one.

 

[Trial By Fire]

Disclaimer: Long post, so apologies in advance. Also, never before have I wished for IT Celliya 786D masterstrokewadis to be right more than now; quite happy to take my words back and accept my mistake if this ceasefire chutiyap truly turns out to be some 56D masterstroke. Until then, you can "MUHHH Blackpill and 20-20 match" me all you want, but what I'm about to say stands.

India is probably the only major military power in the world that doesn't realize it's a major military power. The Gandhian mindset coupled with the Nehruvian gora validation seeking still lives long among our political establishment. I remember, in the old DFI, I was relentlessly crucified one time when I alluded that if we are bending to Amrika's diktat on issues like Nupur Sharma or some other such issues, it only logically follows that we shall follow Amrika's diktat on issues of retaking POK and other problems as well. I was told that some goals are supreme and sacrosanct and those shall never be compromised on Amrika's say-so, unlike the other "smaller" issues.

Well, after today, I daresay I was right.

This is pussyfooting on the levels of Menachem Begin's betrayal with the Camp David Accords. Actually, more like the cuck Ehud Olmert, when he was the PM of Israel, stating that "We are tired of winning". Yes, that is an actual quote. "We are tired of winning". That's the precise attitude which I sense from this Gormint too. They act as if they believe that Indians were tired of the conflict and weren't prepared to pay the price of prolonged warfare. Yet, whatever I have seen the last few days and weeks disputes this notion.

This also betrays a terrible gap between the leadership and the people in India. India's political and (possibly?) military leaders and definitely the sepoy babus mistakenly believe that Indian society is tired of the protracted conflict and is unwilling to pay the price of continuous war. It reflects a sense of weariness at the leadership level. Decision makers in this "ceasefire" were probably motivated by such sentiments and by a similar misperception of Indian society. Thus, casualty aversion has become a main feature of India's political-military modus operandi.

While the need to avoid reckless loss of human life is self-evident, there was enthusiastic backing for offensive operations all over the country, even if military casualties were inevitable. A huge majority of Indians lent full support to the war. We wanted an unequivocal victory and were ready to pay a high price for achieving it.

What are the things we have achieved instead?

1) We have provided Porkis with an insight as to their weaknesses and chinks in the armor, allowing them to plug those potholes and be better prepared for skirmishes next time, which consequently won't be a cakewalk for us like this time.

2) We have allowed Amrika and Orange Man to put his personal stamp on this ceasefire, which means if we try to contravene it, it will result in embarrassment for the Orange Man, who will then punish us definitely because now his name is on the paper.

3) We have brought the average Indian's sentiment (who normally is a materialistic sheep) to a fever pitch only to douse them with cold water. This, in turn, ensures that the next time, momentum like this in the civilian front will be hard to generate. By default, Indians are materialistic and passive, and it will be hard to generate this war fervour in them again, and not them simply dismissing it as "Arre last time bhi yeh sab hua tha phir ceasefire ho gaya, abhi bhi wahi hoga, no danger of war"

4) This "any act of terror = act of war" I'm not able to buy at all. I refuse to believe that a terror attack with 5 casualties in the future will result in a declaration of war when a terror attack of 30+ casualties ended with a ceasefire decided within 1 hour of Porkies begging us.

5) After having, at face value, accepted Porkies' word of a ceasefire, even if we do decide to claim later that Porkies have violated ceasefire and therefore we shall resume offensive operations, we open the door to the West's calls for investigations and false flags, because it will simply be seen as trigger-happy itching from us at abandoning a ceasefire we so recently agreed to.

6) We have shown the Baloch and Pashtuns AGAIN, maybe for the hundredth time that we are not reliable allies. Any Pakistani separatist movement which expects our backing and help can now safely conclude that they shall be abandoned by us at the drop of a hat.

7) Also, this is a massive, MASSIVE blow to the ambitions for retaking PoK. I'm not even sure if retaking PoK is a goal or aim for this current disposition at all now. If the present scenario with all its terror attacks and strikes on cities and strategic advantages wasn't enough to demand some major concessions, what exactly is the condition or criteria for taking back PoK. How many more cuts does Porkistan have to open for us to want PoK back. Is PoK even a target anymore or is it full on Ekanami and Wusswaguru shit from now? If it's not, then that's just another major example of us abandoning even a semblance of rightful historical and national claims.

Unfortunately, India's political and Babu leadership has no clear concept of what victory over Pakistan entails. It wasted an important opportunity to settle scores and enhance our deterrence.

And the problem is India cannot afford such failures. Hopefully, Indian leadership will be better prepared with appropriate military and diplomatic strategies for attaining a clearly-defined victory in the next round, whenever that happens. If that happens.

Tl;dr: Nothing ever happens. It's so over. "We are tired of winning"

 

[Gandaberunda]

Disclaimer: Long post, so apologies in advance. Also, never before have I wished for IT Celliya 786D masterstrokewadis to be right more than now; quite happy to take my words back and accept my mistake if this ceasefire chutiyap truly turns out to be some 56D masterstroke. Until then, you can "MUHHH Blackpill and 20-20 match" me all you want, but what I'm about to say stands.

India is probably the only major military power in the world that doesn't realize it's a major military power. The Gandhian mindset coupled with the Nehruvian gora validation seeking still lives long among our political establishment. I remember, in the old DFI, I was relentlessly crucified one time when I alluded that if we are bending to Amrika's diktat on issues like Nupur Sharma or some other such issues, it only logically follows that we shall follow Amrika's diktat on issues of retaking POK and other problems as well. I was told that some goals are supreme and sacrosanct and those shall never be compromised on Amrika's say-so, unlike the other "smaller" issues.

Well, after today, I daresay I was right.

This is pussyfooting on the levels of Menachem Begin's betrayal with the Camp David Accords. Actually, more like the cuck Ehud Olmert, when he was the PM of Israel, stating that "We are tired of winning". Yes, that is an actual quote. "We are tired of winning". That's the precise attitude which I sense from this Gormint too. They act as if they believe that Indians were tired of the conflict and weren't prepared to pay the price of prolonged warfare. Yet, whatever I have seen the last few days and weeks disputes this notion.

This also betrays a terrible gap between the leadership and the people in India. India's political and (possibly?) military leaders and definitely the sepoy babus mistakenly believe that Indian society is tired of the protracted conflict and is unwilling to pay the price of continuous war. It reflects a sense of weariness at the leadership level. Decision makers in this "ceasefire" were probably motivated by such sentiments and by a similar misperception of Indian society. Thus, casualty aversion has become a main feature of India's political-military modus operandi.

While the need to avoid reckless loss of human life is self-evident, there was enthusiastic backing for offensive operations all over the country, even if military casualties were inevitable. A huge majority of Indians lent full support to the war. We wanted an unequivocal victory and were ready to pay a high price for achieving it.

What are the things we have achieved instead?

1) We have provided Porkis with an insight as to their weaknesses and chinks in the armor, allowing them to plug those potholes and be better prepared for skirmishes next time, which consequently won't be a cakewalk for us like this time.

2) We have allowed Amrika and Orange Man to put his personal stamp on this ceasefire, which means if we try to contravene it, it will result in embarrassment for the Orange Man, who will then punish us definitely because now his name is on the paper.

3) We have brought the average Indian's sentiment (who normally is a materialistic sheep) to a fever pitch only to douse them with cold water. This, in turn, ensures that the next time, momentum like this in the civilian front will be hard to generate. By default, Indians are materialistic and passive, and it will be hard to generate this war fervour in them again, and not them simply dismissing it as "Arre last time bhi yeh sab hua tha phir ceasefire ho gaya, abhi bhi wahi hoga, no danger of war"

4) This "any act of terror = act of war" I'm not able to buy at all. I refuse to believe that a terror attack with 5 casualties in the future will result in a declaration of war when a terror attack of 30+ casualties ended with a ceasefire decided within 1 hour of Porkies begging us.

5) After having, at face value, accepted Porkies' word of a ceasefire, even if we do decide to claim later that Porkies have violated ceasefire and therefore we shall resume offensive operations, we open the door to the West's calls for investigations and false flags, because it will simply be seen as trigger-happy itching from us at abandoning a ceasefire we so recently agreed to.

6) We have shown the Baloch and Pashtuns AGAIN, maybe for the hundredth time that we are not reliable allies. Any Pakistani separatist movement which expects our backing and help can now safely conclude that they shall be abandoned by us at the drop of a hat.

7) Also, this is a massive, MASSIVE blow to the ambitions for retaking PoK. I'm not even sure if retaking PoK is a goal or aim for this current disposition at all now. If the present scenario with all its terror attacks and strikes on cities and strategic advantages wasn't enough to demand some major concessions, what exactly is the condition or criteria for taking back PoK. How many more cuts does Porkistan have to open for us to want PoK back. Is PoK even a target anymore or is it full on Ekanami and Wusswaguru shit from now? If it's not, then that's just another major example of us abandoning even a semblance of rightful historical and national claims.

Unfortunately, India's political and Babu leadership has no clear concept of what victory over Pakistan entails. It wasted an important opportunity to settle scores and enhance our deterrence.

And the problem is India cannot afford such failures. Hopefully, Indian leadership will be better prepared with appropriate military and diplomatic strategies for attaining a clearly-defined victory in the next round, whenever that happens. If that happens.

Tl;dr: Nothing ever happens. It's so over. "We are tired of winning"

Mujhe chakkar agya

 

[shade2]

I THE SHADE HEREBY CHANGE MY DP AGAIN
WE'RE SO FUCKING BACK TO BANGING PAKIS

IT'S NOT OVER IT'S ONLY JUST BEGUN

BHARAT MATA KI JAI!