Civil Aviation Sector : News , Updates & Discussions .

@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR are you ex military or a civilian pilot. Reason I'm asking is I always wanted to have CPL, just for fun. I always wanted to fly helicopters and Cessna's on my own but what I've heard and saw about the Indian aviation colleges doesn't paint a very scene. Last year a news came out regarding probably the "BEST" Indian aviation school that its director used to take bribes and would in turn mark some extra hours on students ranks even though they didn't fly. What's your opinion on Indian aviation schools ?
 
OutForVendetta said:
@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR are you ex military or a civilian pilot. Reason I'm asking is I always wanted to have CPL, just for fun. I always wanted to fly helicopters and Cessna's on my own but what I've heard and saw about the Indian aviation colleges doesn't paint a very scene. Last year a news came out regarding probably the "BEST" Indian aviation school that its director used to take bribes and would in turn mark some extra hours on students ranks even though they didn't fly. What's your opinion on Indian aviation schools ?
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Hi,

I am a Civil Pilot.

Regarding Indian schools..most are that way only.

IGRUA,Chimes which is run by Punj Lloyd and NFTI Gondia are the ones which are run clean.

You need not do CPL for flying as a hobby..You can do PPL instead.

A good friend of mine who owns a 7-800 crore business did his PPL instead in Chimes and was happy with their resources and facilities.
 
Mikel said:
Approach speed seems way too high for an attempted belly landing. Size of the fireball also suggests significant amount of fuel still in the tanks. Did the pilots not dump it or burn up in a holding pattern?
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plus concrete too also not helped.
 
IMO this "Air Taxi" if it succeeds, would just be another form of helicopter service with multiple rotors. There have been many videos globally.
> Manned or unmanned, the fear of crashing down is always there.
> Whether it is system of 4/6/8 rotors, if 1 rotor fails due to internal reason or bird strike, etc then the other side also has to shut down to maintain balance & other rotors need to speed up to maintain lift.
> Maintaining a strict route in air is another huge challenge, that too with collision avoidance, especially in adverse weather conditions.
> Dedicated bus & Metro-rail service are still safer & more economical.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxVgIlpPEVk
 
Bengaluru, India, March 5, 2025 – Motherson, a global player in the manufacturing of aerospace components and assemblies, has been selected as a Tier 1 supplier for Airbus commercial aircraft. Through its subsidiary CIM Tools India Pvt. Ltd., the company has signed a multi-year agreement for the manufacturing and supply of components and assemblies directly to the European aircraft manufacturer’s final assembly lines.

Deliveries will be made from Motherson’s aerospace plant in Bengaluru, India, thus strengthening its presence in the sector. The company is already a Tier 1 supplier for Airbus Helicopters and Airbus Defence and Space, reinforcing its relationship with the aeronautical group.

Motherson President Vivek Chaand Sehgal expressed his satisfaction with this achievement: “We are honoured to be recognised as a Tier 1 supplier to Airbus Commercial and appreciate their trust in us. This milestone reflects our manufacturing capabilities, adherence to quality standards and our commitment to on-time delivery.”

Kunal Bajaj, President of Motherson’s Aerospace Division, highlighted the significance of this designation: “Becoming a Tier 1 supplier to Airbus Commercial will accelerate our growth and demonstrates our investments in advanced manufacturing and quality technologies to meet the growing demand of the sector.”

Motherson has established itself as a key supplier in the aerospace industry, with 16 facilities in four countries that allow it to serve the main original equipment manufacturers (OEMs). Its Aerospace Division offers high-quality solutions for various applications, covering all sections of an aircraft, from nose to tail.

Samvardhana Motherson International Limited (SAMIL), formerly Motherson Sumi Systems Limited, is a global leader in automotive and aerospace component manufacturing. With over 400 facilities across 44 countries, SAMIL is the largest automotive parts supplier in India and is among the top 15 automotive suppliers globally. The company was also recognized as one of TIME’s Best Companies of 2024, highlighting its growth and expansion across multiple sectors.

clusterindustrial.com.mx

Motherson se consolida como proveedor Tier 1 para Airbus

Bengaluru, India, 5 de marzo de 2025.- Motherson, un actor global en la fabricación de componentes y ensamblajes aeroespaciales, ha sido seleccionado como proveedor de nivel 1 para los aviones comerciales de Airbus. A través de su filial CIM Tools India Pvt. Ltd., la compañía ha firmado un acuerdo
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Azaad said:
indianexpress.com

Haryana’s Hisar likely to house India’s first private sector trainer aircraft manufacturing facility by year-end

Sakthi group, Austria’s Diamond Aircraft join hands for made-in-India single-engine planes for flying schools.
indianexpress.com indianexpress.com

RIP CSIR - NAL Hansa NG !
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View: https://twitter.com/ReviewVayu/status/1899358915772535057?s=19


View: https://twitter.com/ShiroBarks/status/1899381537130586335?s=19

Someone please explain how do we keep coming up with xutiapa like this regularly? I mean this is actually killing one of the GoI's own long delayed pet projects.

Aren't there internal mechanisms by which the affected party is supposed to be consulted on such an issue. Or does right hand not know what left hand is doing? I mean how does it work in the great GoI of ours?
 
Azaad said:

View: https://twitter.com/ReviewVayu/status/1899358915772535057?s=19


View: https://twitter.com/ShiroBarks/status/1899381537130586335?s=19

Someone please explain how do we keep coming up with xutiapa like this regularly? I mean this is actually killing one of the GoI's own long delayed pet projects.

Aren't there internal mechanisms by which the affected party is supposed to be consulted on such an issue. Or does right hand not know what left hand is doing? I mean how does it work in the great GoI of ours?
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Looks like one of those fake MoUs. Why would someone supply trainer aircrafts to gormint run flying academies for free?

60 deliveries by 2025 end! 100 more by 2026 end??!!! All these tall promises despite no operational assembly lines as of March, 2025.

Press X to doubt.
 
crazywithmath said:
Looks like one of those fake MoUs. Why would someone supply trainer aircrafts to gormint run flying academies for free?

60 deliveries by 2025 end! 100 more by 2026 end??!!! All these tall promises despite no operational assembly lines as of March, 2025.

Press X to doubt.
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I don't think it's as much of an open & shut case as you're making it out to be. Check out the linked article in #16 .

There's no mention of any MoU. In fact this seems to be happening with the blessings of the Minister for Civil Aviation who's a TDP apppointee.

As far as accomplishing a FAL or expediting an order for 60 nos go, I don't foresee it to be a problem. After all these are SKDs or CKDs. It's such a tiny plane that the assembly kit will read like a DIY. You could do the assembly of a single kit with a couple of friends in a day if you're upto it .
 
Azaad said:
I don't think it's as much of an open & shut case as you're making it out to be. Check out the linked article in #16 .

There's no mention of any MoU. In fact this seems to be happening with the blessings of the Minister for Civil Aviation who's a TDP apppointee.
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Article claims this to be a 'collaboration';

"Under the agreement, ACI (Aero Club of India) will act as the central aggregator, consolidating demand, managing aircraft allocation, and facilitating seamless handovers to FTOs. SAIPL (Sakthi Aircraft Industry), in a joint venture with Diamond Aircraft Industry, Austria, will establish a state-of-the-art manufacturing facility in India to produce, sustain, and provide comprehensive lifecycle support for the DA40 NG,” ACI and SAIPL said in a joint release.
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Reads like a typical MoU to me.


Azaad said:
As far as accomplishing a FAL or expediting an order for 60 nos go, I don't foresee it to be a problem. After all these are SKDs or CKDs. It's such a tiny plane that the assembly kit will read like a DIY. You could do the assembly of a single kit with a couple of friends in a day if you're upto it .
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I am not an aerospace or mech grad so forgive my ignorance but I see too many red flags;

1. Xitter post claims the JV would deliver their trainer aircrafts to the gormint run flying schools - for free! Why? Are they here to do charity?

2. Unrealistic manufacturing timelines. 60 aircrafts by 2025, 100+ more by 2026 end! Again, not a mech/aerospace guy but I presume setting up an assembly line from scratch takes time - even if you are looking to assemble SKDs/CKDs.

3. From the IE article;

The remaining 150 planes will be produced at the planned FAL, which “most likely” will come up at the Hisar aerodrome in Haryana and should be functional by the end of 2025, Sakthi Aircraft Industry’s Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer Vaibhav D told reporters on the sidelines of the event.
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So even the plant location has not been finalized yet and here they are giving out such ambitious timelines.

4. The IE article reads like a PR plant.

Perhaps, more experienced members can chime in.
 
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