DRDO and PSU's

[ezsasa]

This also got me thinking why isn't there a HSLD 1000 (Indian Mk 84)

same question from a different angle..

was trying to check what other (than gaurav LRGB)1000 kg bomb is in SU-30 MKI's listed armaments, there isn't?
russian KAB and FAB 500 and KAB 1500 kg bombs are listed.

 

[Ayan Barat]

Good job @ezsasa @Pundit Pikachu
Now allow me, I also want to contribute my part in this whole mess

This was the latest pic of Gaurav from Adani's manufacturing facility

See how the "bomb" is made up of three sections, it's kind of unusual. Also the fact that the wings are directly attached to the body instead of using some kind of strap to tie it, like in JDAM-ER.
Don't know why but it seems like they're making a custom warheads for Gautam/Gaurav instead of adding kits to existing bombs like JDAM or JDAM-ER

And the fact that both 1000kg and 500kg are mentioned to have the same dimensions of 4x0.6m also feels weird.

 

[Bleh]

We should really move on to long range NLOS Atgm missiles from the Nag missiles class for NAMICA concept like vehicles. It would serve as tactical long fires as well as counter artillery missions as well.

We have 20km ranged LOBL-LOAL Heli-launched versions for that, lon& range should be married to a fast & flying platform that can swiftly reach where-when needed... Not a defenseless crawler.

IMO the only place NAMICA's 8-packed launcher set belong is on static mounts along LOC. Maybe maritime use too, Coastguard Patrol boats.

Indeed .. when the Chinese have aft10 with nlos hj10s already available namica is straight up obsolete .

Hj10 ke double range hy Halina ka

 

[Ayan Barat]

Damn 40 tonn beast.
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Was feeling bit cute so went through specifications of as many 8x8 as possible. Turns out there's just one 8x8 IFV whose weight is "upto 40000kg"; Arma, made by the Turkish firm Otokar.

Here's a side by side picture of specifications of L&T's Aquila and Otokar's Arma for absolutely no reasons.

 

[Lcafanboy]

View: https://x.com/Varun55484761/status/1833525440612601997

How interesting...
Indian K4 & K5 missiles can hit China & Pakistan both & if needed to much of the Europe from the safety of Bay Of Bengal .....

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Damn 40 tonn beast.
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It's slightly bigger than the Boxer. Weight makes sense. Probably using the same MTU 8V199 engine too.

 

[Tuco]

any one remembers why DRDO/IAF did not go the kit direction in design for LRGB (gaurav and gautham)?
or in other words, why was sudharshan concept not further explored?

this would be around 2013..

If I am remembering it correctly, it had stability issues after release. It was taken back to drawing board then it just disappeared or was discontinued.

 

[Ayan Barat]

Now that's setting some serious bar of air dominance for everyone to catch

Hope someday we too see AL-AAD

 

[Bleh]

View: https://x.com/Varun55484761/status/1833525440612601997

How interesting...
Indian K4 & K5 missiles can hit China & Pakistan both & if needed to much of the Europe from the safety of Bay Of Bengal .....

Soooo... We don't actually need SLBMs. A few underwater deployable missile silos could do three job.

Also, why we need drone shotguns.


View: https://youtube.com/shorts/qdpgp6Pgk64?si=_IfpgItTbejbq5k0

 

[Blood+]

Now that's setting some serious bar of air dominance for everyone to catch
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Hope someday we too see AL-AAD

Why the AAD though??!! As far as I know, it was never optimized for use against aircraft. Wouldn't Barak 8 be a better fit for this role??

 

[fire starter]

Ngmv radar.

View: https://x.com/BEL_CorpCom/status/1833793776399073669?t=rhsGtNXE_hOwkNoOqSX64g&s=19

 

[Ayan Barat]

Why the AAD though??!! As far as I know, it was never optimized for use against aircraft. Wouldn't Barak 8 be a better fit for this role??

What else we have that truly classifies as a long range SAM except AAD!?

As for Barak-8, it's ground launched range is 100km so even if we double it for air-launched then also it would be just 200km. Even after adding a generous 50km more for launch aircraft speed and low drag due to thin atmosphere...it would still be more or less in the ballpark of Meteor/SFDR.

As for optimising AAD for anti-aircraft role it's just the matter of changing the algorithms. It's an ABM but it still uses a huge 80kg blast fragmentation warhead. If it had used a KV then only it would have been difficult to reconfigure it.

 

[Satish Sharma Ji]

Ngmv radar.

View: https://x.com/BEL_CorpCom/status/1833793776399073669?t=rhsGtNXE_hOwkNoOqSX64g&s=19

850 crores for a radar dang. Where can find details abt it

 

[rone]

leaked Brazilian nuclear attack submarine drawing ( based on scorpion sub)

 

[fire starter]

AI based EW data analysis.

 

[705-Lira]

What else we have that truly classifies as a long range SAM except AAD!?

As for Barak-8, it's ground launched range is 100km so even if we double it for air-launched then also it would be just 200km. Even after adding a generous 50km more for launch aircraft speed and low drag due to thin atmosphere...it would still be more or less in the ballpark of Meteor/SFDR.

As for optimising AAD for anti-aircraft role it's just the matter of changing the algorithms. It's an ABM but it still uses a huge 80kg blast fragmentation warhead. If it had used a KV then only it would have been difficult to reconfigure it.

Ashwin Ballastic Missile Interceptor (AAD) does seem a bit too big to be air-launched.
It would be far more beneficial to convert the M2(ER-SAM) or M3(XR-SAM) missile of the Kusha LRADS program into an air-launched missile sans the booster.

 

[Ayan Barat]

It would be far more beneficial to convert the M2(ER-SAM) or M3(XR-SAM) missile of the Kusha LRADS program into an air-launched missile sans the booster.

Hehe...as soon as you'll remove the booster from either M2 or M3 it'll become M1; which by current visual estimates should be an Akash-NG or LRSAM class missile.
Which brings us back to square one, where Blood+ was asking about Barak-8

Ashwin Ballastic Missile Interceptor (AAD) does seem a bit too big to be air-launched.

It is. By all means it should be atleast a ton or so. But it's an immediate necessity.

China has atleast 30 AWACS.
Even if we ignore the possibility of attrition of our AWACS to PL-21s, we would still have just 6.
The best (or frankly the only) option is to modify a couple of Su-30MkI and AADs for a possible conflict so that we have some contingency till things improve.

 

[jaijaganath]

View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1833875528329396314

 

[705-Lira]

Hehe...as soon as you'll remove the booster from either M2 or M3 it'll become M1; which by current visual estimates should be an Akash-NG or LRSAM class missile.
Which brings us back to square one, where Blood+ was asking about Barak-8

It is. By all means it should be atleast a ton or so. But it's an immediate necessity.

China has atleast 30 AWACS.
Even if we ignore the possibility of attrition of our AWACS to PL-21s, we would still have just 6.
The best (or frankly the only) option is to modify a couple of Su-30MkI and AADs for a possible conflict so that we have some contingency till things improve.

M1 (MR-SAM), which does not come with any booster is rated to have a range of 150km, and based on the skematics itself, looks like an elongated Akash-NG, might possibly be fatter aswell.
Other options are to tinker with the burn rate to ensure both stages burn for longer, this will definitely increase the range albeit at the expense of speed.

 

[Ayan Barat]

M1 (MR-SAM), which does not come with any booster is rated to have a range of 150km, and based on the skematics itself, looks like an elongated Akash-NG, might possibly be fatter aswell.

Any source for that 150km range figure?