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[Blood+]

So why are we buying LCH then??

We spent 3 billion and now all answers coming with if and but

1. For the high altitude areas where the heavy helos can not perform as has been clearly demonstrated by that IAF Apache.
2. To make up the numbers as they are cheaper. By the way, just because I said Prachand won't be AS effective, does not entail they won't be effective at all!! It's still a very potent attack helo in its own right and will do wonders when accompanied by the Apaches with their Longbow radars marking the targets at beyond the horizon for them .

 

[username unkown]

1. For the high altitude areas where the heavy helos can not perform as has been clearly demonstrated by that IAF Apache.
2. To make up the numbers as they are cheaper. By the way, just because I said Prachand won't be AS effective, does not entail they won't be effective at all!! It's still a very potent attack helo in its own right and will do wonders when accompanied by the Apaches with their Longbow radars marking the targets at beyond the horizon for them .

We learned same thing in kargil that heavy heli do not fare well in mountains but army is like nah we want those highly overprized heli which crashes all the time mallai bhi toh chaiye

 

[Zoid Raptor]

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The dick covering actually does more harm than good restricting movements and potential to get stuck between the groin during certain maneuvers.

Remove that crap and you'll possibly shave off another 2-3 pounds

 

[Blood+]

We learned same thing in kargil that heavy heli do not fare well in mountains but army is like nah we want those highly overprized heli which crashes all the time mallai bhi toh chaiye

Arey mallai ki baat toh hai par Apache Longbow jaise heavy attack heloes ki bhi requirement hao plains aur desert ki liye.

Now we have to look at this from a position of reason and logic instead of getting carried away by raw emotion. Objectively speaking, the AH-64E is a better platform on almost every conceivable way, no matter how much we hate to admit it. I'd say they definitely have their place.

 

[username unkown]

The dick covering actually does more harm than good restricting movements and potential to get stuck between the groin during certain maneuvers.

Remove that crap and you'll possibly shave off another 2-3 pounds

Its lap panel and yes it could be better
It looks something like this for representation

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/y4aAXy03SOE?si=n8-cYve0sknLtKQE

 

[username unkown]

Arey mallai ki baat toh hai par Apache Longbow jaise heavy attack heloes ki bhi requirement hao plains aur desert ki liye.

Now we have to look at this from a position of reason and logic instead of getting carried away by raw emotion. Objectively speaking, the AH-64E is a better platform on almost every conceivable way, no matter how much we hate to admit it. I'd say they definitely have their place.

I agree long bow radar is useful but for its cost i don't think so and for us our main focus should be mountain but what's done is done
For future we should focus on indegenius heavy attack heli with similar capability with more of ka 52 design fr mountain terrain
Thease import are not designed for us indegenius option are designed for us

 

[Pundit Pikachu]

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God I hope this is not the actual design, cause if it is, we can kiss our hopes of getting a 6m radar goodbye, ain't no way that mast is going to be able to support anything bigger than our current radars

https://swarajyamag.com/defence/explained-the-indian-navy-new-game-changing-radar

 

[Ayan Barat]

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This can't be the real design

Where are my beloved RBUs!?
Tell me they're safe

 

[ezsasa]

You missed the whole point.
But it is not suitable in Himalay but you still counting on it.

when negotiations for apache and chinook started in 2011, china was not even a factor. ordered in 2015, delivery started in 2019, first squadron was raised in pathankot which indicates the original plans. after galwan, might as well use the opportunity to test the flight envelope now. high altitude deployment was bound to happen at some point, it happened to be now.

if military do not test the limits of their own equipment, and do not develop contingency plans, it would be even worse.

 

[Bleh]

No, but they won't be as effective as the AH-64Es with their Longbow radars would.

LCH will carry LOAL ATGM of 20km+ range. That's fine enough

 

[Zoid Raptor]

Stryker won't come. Stryker is the f21 of land systems. The sooner people realise this, the better.

While IAF is no less of a sucker for foreign maal, the F21 is a significantly bigger project costing over $20B and possibly spanning over several decades. Not to mention, a large fighter jet acquisition is more of a strategic project and we're not dumb enough to rely on Uncle Sam for our frontline fighter jets who will undoubtedly turn their backs on us when the need arises or if we go against their interests. We'd also end up loosing the flexibility of juggling between Russians and West.

No matter what they rename the F-16 with, it's an age old tech which is being pitched to us to keep the American jobs alive and production lines running while the US treasury gets to fill up their coffers. Even if they promise ToT, there's no way they'd share tech related to engines, radars, avionics or any of the critical sub-systems

Stryker oth is more of a tactical platform, possibly with lesser significance than the K9 Vajra and we're likely not gaining much in terms of ToT compared to our existing capabilities. It's really just to keep the Yanks at bay while we continue buying Russian oil

 

[Blood+]

LCH will carry LOAL ATGM of 20km+ range. That's fine enough

But what about target acquisition and situational awareness?? The Apache will be a lot better in that regard.

 

[Azaad]

But what about target acquisition and situational awareness?? The Apache will be a lot better in that regard.

Equip the LCH with a MMW Radar & you'd get the same capabilities . If you go one step up & equip it with an AESA radar it's even better.

 

[NerVik]

Equip the LCH with a MMW Radar & you'd get the same capabilities . If you go one step up & equip it with an AESA radar it's even better.

I am guessing it's not that easy, everything from the aerodynamics to vibrations (structural integrity) to power needed to run the radar. Or else they would have done so as would have every one else who develops a helicopter.
It's rather silly to simply say stick a radar on it and be done with it.

 

[Blood+]

Equip the LCH with a MMW Radar & you'd get the same capabilities . If you go one step up & equip it with an AESA radar it's even better.

Abhi kahene ko toh kaafi kuch kyaa ja sakta hai such as integrating a quad ATGM launch system or bigger rocket pods with greater capacity (the pilons can handle it if the official specs are to be believed) and so on. But since that hasn't been done yet, AH-64E is still the better platform, for the time being anyway.

 

[Azaad]

I am guessing it's not that easy, everything from the aerodynamics to vibrations (structural integrity) to power needed to run the radar. Or else they would have done so as would have every one else who develops a helicopter.
It's rather silly to simply say stick a radar on it and be done with it.

Abhi kahene ko toh kaafi kuch kyaa ja sakta hai such as integrating a quad ATGM launch system or bigger rocket pods with greater capacity (the pilons can handle it if the official specs are to be believed) and so on. But since that hasn't been done yet, AH-64E is still the better platform, for the time being anyway.

The LCH is still in the LSP stage . This is the right time to contemplate design changes if any. There's a lot you can do with it & has to be done to certify it as combat ready. We're still a good 4-5 yrs from declaring the FOC of the LCH .

 

[Bleh]

But what about target acquisition and situational awareness?? The Apache will be a lot better in that rega

It's not gonna be anti-tank at those heights, so it'll be manageable. Unlike Apache operating in Iraq will have tagged acquisition radars working in tandem on ground.

Plus drones & low-alt spy satellites are stored to identify enemy depots, structures, arty positions etc.

 

[Blood+]

It's not gonna be anti-tank at those heights, so it'll be manageable. Unlike Apache operating in Iraq will have tagged acquisition radars working in tandem on ground.

Plus drones & low-alt spy satellites are stored to identify enemy depots, structures, arty positions etc.

I was talking about the plains of Punjab and Gujarat and the deserts of Rajasthan!!

 

[Ayan Barat]

an aesa it consume alot of power

lol, lmao even

 

[Satish Sharma Ji]

lol, lmao even

Look aesa consumes more power than a pesa for same range and who is jamming u flying so low ?
Are soldiers coming up with they're jammers ?
I would say there 's no need for an aesa on a helo instead go for longer range and have ability to track more targets precisely.