Electronics and Semiconductor Manufacturing Industry

[liberalredditor]

Most don't know why is STEM lacking in India- it is due to Software Mindvirus that you can learn any thing outside of Software within months. Its not- we need Masters and PhD students in Core.

What's the use of again MBA and all that useless bunch? We need to first structure B.Tech in 3 years itself instead of 4 years. I myself from IIT Old 7 in ECE, I myself have to learn bullshit in first year that doesn't amount anything remotely to core domain knowledge. I have to study Chemistry, Biology, Physics again which I would never touch. The logic for this is that- it would give some cross domain exposure which is bullshit because cross domain exposure comes either in composite courses or organically imbued at Masters or Phd.

1. Another retarded thing is Electives- abolish Electives. In my fourth year, I took a Physics Elective+ Biology Elective because seats run out, another friend of mine being from ECE took Error Correction Codes and Electrical Machines. So both in Inte-Departmental and Intra-Departmental the Electives system is meaningless and failure. ECC and Electrical Machines have nothing to do with each other neither is Physics Elective and Biology Elective with my ECE Course. Abolish Electives and introduce Pathways in 3rd Year after 1st and 2nd year of Core Subjects.

2. Pathways are such that you can choose anyone of them with meaningfully grouped courses in Intra-Department. No longer would you be able to choose Electrical Machines with ECC or Signal Processing with VLSI. Pathways would be assorted set of Courses for example a pathway in Signal Processing could take core subjects like Digital Signal Processing, Probability and Random Processes, Estimation Theory, and even Machine Learning-based signal analysis.

3. Pathways are genius in a way such that one's final year pathway in B.Tech would seamlessly translate to Specializations in M.Tech so that there is no incoherence.

same feeling bhai, har college me first year waste hai, mainly because of bringing res. cat to same level in 1 year, thats what is wasting, but again, hawa to 2nd 3rd year me nikalti hai, kanpur literally used to rusticate 30-40 peeps at once

and kanpur electrical is goated, and as for specialisation, kanpur is very much independent, it gives many courses as electives, the problem is many are middle class and run behind pay which is in sde/it side, if govt or companies are able to give 20+ lpa to core side then i guarantee the boom which our r&d would see

 

[Aaj Ka Hero]

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[chnvipgz]

How far away, India is having its own artificial intelligence software like OpenAI or Deep Seek etc. The minister in January said that we are only 10 months away.

Are we midway yet or still farther away?

With low merit reservation going above 60 percent in academia and jobs ,india is going downwards.Its high time to remove caste low merit quota system.


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Low merit quota in drdo,isro etc ruining competence.
After caste census it will be above 90 percent in both govt and private industries.


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[redpanda]

Good read.

Where the chips fall into place: Gujarat startups power India's semicon dream | Ahmedabad News - Times of India

Gujarat's semiconductor landscape is rapidly evolving, fueled by ambitious tech startups in chip design and embedded systems. Bolstered by proactive p

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

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I think some of those cons like lack of trained semiconductor professionals & supporting industries can be mitigated with time and effort. Gujarat is very close to Maharashtra. I would assume there will be good chunk of trained professionals in Mumbai & Pune..whom can easily be brought to Gujarat.

 

[Hari Sud]

With low merit reservation going above 60 percent in academia and jobs ,india is going downwards.Its high time to remove caste low merit quota system.


View: https://x.com/neha_laldas/status/1925110387113927013?t=-p706eVWVMBK4jpLJyTNiw&s=19

Low merit quota in drdo,isro etc ruining competence.
After caste census it will be above 90 percent in both govt and private industries.


View: https://x.com/neha_laldas/status/1926925692626698554?t=9BU54MNKP0akeoqhyn_pug&s=19

 

[Hari Sud]

Disagree…… Artificial intelligence project is a private sector project and is not a DRDO project.

Another point…. We have foul mouthed DRDO a lot including me but Operation Sindoor proved the versatility of the DRDO products. So slow down on your caste narrative.

 

[chnvipgz]

Disagree…… Artificial intelligence project is a private sector project and is not a DRDO project.

Another point…. We have foul mouthed DRDO a lot including me but Operation Sindoor proved the versatility of the DRDO products. So slow down on your caste narrative.

Most of these drdo products were designed and made when it had just 20 percent low merit reservation but now it is crippling with 60 percent low merit reservation new products are being affected in isro,hal etc as well.

 

[liberalredditor]

I have said this before also, rn its the best time to classify the employee info of drdo and dpsu and barc
Classify the recruitment, and dont allow the employees to talk about it in the public
Go to tier 1 and top colleges like top 7 iit + iit bhu, hyd + bits p/g/h campus + iiit h + top nits, do campus recruitment, give out money, pay some handsome amount for btech mtech and phd students, and encourage masters and phd
Fund students to go to phoren and bring top level technical knowledge to india
Bring indians who are iitians but in us or europe, give them money, both govt and private, and see the pace of development and research

 

[liberalredditor]

I worked hard in advanced to score 220+, just to get a under 1100 rank for iitk ee, but a vanchit shoshit pichhda adivasi gets the same at maybe 80-90 marks and 10-15k rank
While at the same rank, a gen cat student wouldnt even get iit bhilai metallurgy/lowest branch there

Start giving pay to core branches and stop the software engineer factory which iits have become

 

[crazywithmath]

Most of these drdo products were designed and made when it had just 20 percent low merit reservation but now it is crippling with 60 percent low merit reservation new products are being affected in isro,hal etc as well.

At the risk of going off topic, this is again, a cope.

These public bodies do not work as desired cuz the gormint does not spend. Industry-academia collab does not happen to the desired extent, cuz again, the gormint does not pour too much resorces.

We are not some uber rich paradise like burgerland, the market for truly cutting edge products is not that big just yet here - which is also why the industry is risk averse and won't commit to risky investments into R&D in absence of dedicated govt backed initiatives.

There are capable guys in the system. Guys who continue fighting despire the peanuts they receive in budgets. These SM posts from esteemd social media blue tickwallah virat UC hondus are scintillatingly stupid.

Do you have any idea how many CSIR folks have fucked off to gora nations cuz of stepmotherly treatment from successive gormints? If their programmes were funded well, these folks would groom an entire generation of PhDs and post doctorals - who would then get absorbed by the private and the public companies.

There is no reservation in the faculties at the IITs/IIMs etc - how many market proven products/business cases have these guys (folks who are supposed to be elite human capital in India) come up with? Exceptions are not the norm.

The govt won't fund these programmes and remains terminally risk averse.

And yet, the blue tickwallahs will continue to come up with hilarious copes like these - some will blame 'reservations', some will blame the 'ladli behnas', some will blame 'muh mentality' and the list goes on...

@mods these posts are probably off topic, move it to a more appropriate thread if needed.

 

[Hari Sud]

Most of these drdo products were designed and made when it had just 20 percent low merit reservation but now it is crippling with 60 percent low merit reservation new products are being affected in isro,hal etc as well.

Anybody else has any other information on 60% low merit reservations. Government is liberal but not a fool.

 

[crazywithmath]

I worked hard in advanced to score 220+, just to get a under 1100 rank for iitk ee, but a vanchit shoshit pichhda adivasi gets the same at maybe 80-90 marks and 10-15k rank
While at the same rank, a gen cat student wouldnt even get iit bhilai metallurgy/lowest branch there

Start giving pay to core branches and stop the software engineer factory which iits have become

Funding issue, again. Given the kind of prime real estate these IITs are in possession of, they can easily up their intake by 4-5x with little funding from the govt.

I am not joking, these IITs/NITs/IIITs/GFTIs have pathetically low student intakes when compared with the universities of the gora nations.

But they won't increase their intakes cuz,


A. Funding issue, like I mentioned.
B. These are fundamentally elitist institutions who are obsessed with student to teacher ratios.

And I say this as someone fundamentally opposed to the concept of affirmative action/reservations.

 

[ArjunMK1A]

Funding issue, again. Given the kind of prime real estate these IITs are in possession of, they can easily up their intake by 4-5x with little funding from the govt.

I am not joking, these IITs/NITs/IIITs/GFTIs have pathetically low student intakes when compared with the universities of the gora nations.

But they won't increase their intakes cuz,


A. Funding issue, like I mentioned.
B. These are fundamentally elitist institutions who are obsessed with student to teacher ratios.

And I say this as someone fundamentally opposed to the concept of affirmative action/reservations.

I completed my B.E. Mech in an decent college which is surrounded by massive industrial cluster in the Chennai. The famous Oragadam-Sriperumbudur belt. But the funny part our college and those industries don't even have single interaction ever happened. 1000s of MSME but since there is absolute disconnect we cannot do anything. Can't able to get any internship, Inplant training, any MSME requirement which can be solved by Students. Nothing.

Even the Government owned institute like IIIT Chennai don't have industrial tie ups. They works in different world and the automobile suppliers works on another world. I done one internship for an Pump design which is from reputed Tier 1 suppliers to MSIL, TATA. The pump is basically an Chinese blueprint acquired from them. These guys don't have technical, design idea how to build them from scratch. The manage them by playing with inlet diameter which gives necessary output. They asked us for detailed information how this entire pump is working. We asked support from IIIT. They are as clueless as us.

This is the scenario in India.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Uttar Pradesh to launch ₹10,000 crore scheme to woo electronic component manufacturing in the state. The state will also launch its new electronic component manufacturing policy. The state aims to attract fresh investment of about ₹25,000 crore .

Uttar Pradesh Plans To Launch Rs 10,000 Crore Scheme To Woo Electronic Components Manufacturing

The policy aims to complement the central government’s Electronics Component Manufacturing (ECM) scheme, launched in April with a budget of Rs 23,000 crore, by offering additional fiscal incentives, subsidised land, and infrastructure support to investors in the state

www.outlookbusiness.com

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

I completed my B.E. Mech in an decent college which is surrounded by massive industrial cluster in the Chennai. The famous Oragadam-Sriperumbudur belt. But the funny part our college and those industries don't even have single interaction ever happened. 1000s of MSME but since there is absolute disconnect we cannot do anything. Can't able to get any internship, Inplant training, any MSME requirement which can be solved by Students. Nothing.

Even the Government owned institute like IIIT Chennai don't have industrial tie ups. They works in different world and the automobile suppliers works on another world. I done one internship for an Pump design which is from reputed Tier 1 suppliers to MSIL, TATA. The pump is basically an Chinese blueprint acquired from them. These guys don't have technical, design idea how to build them from scratch. The manage them by playing with inlet diameter which gives necessary output. They asked us for detailed information how this entire pump is working. We asked support from IIIT. They are as clueless as us.

This is the scenario in India.

Core sector jobs are really unattractive tbh, very little of them ever go past 5lpa, even the govt ones.

 

[LastMythin]

How far away, India is having its own artificial intelligence software like OpenAI or Deep Seek etc. The minister in January said that we are only 10 months away.

Are we midway yet or still farther away?

we are still a good distance away

 

[liberalredditor]

Funding issue, again. Given the kind of prime real estate these IITs are in possession of, they can easily up their intake by 4-5x with little funding from the govt.

I am not joking, these IITs/NITs/IIITs/GFTIs have pathetically low student intakes when compared with the universities of the gora nations.

But they won't increase their intakes cuz,


A. Funding issue, like I mentioned.
B. These are fundamentally elitist institutions who are obsessed with student to teacher ratios.

And I say this as someone fundamentally opposed to the concept of affirmative action/reservations.

bhai how much more intake you want?? compared to 2018 level and now, literally people in nits are living in double seater rooms with 4 people, 3 beds 2 table, is it liveable? in iits still its better that double seater rooms have 3 people

iits nits iiits are running at 1.5+x strength due to govt blindly increasing intake, what about jobs?? pvt sector dhandho want profit, they dont want to give pay, our colleges have become software engineer plants

you want vit level intake in iit? 5000 cs students in iitb, 5000 in delhi, 5000 in kanpur 5000 in madras?? #PradhanMantriAbHarKoiIITianBanegaYojna

man just compare 2018 and 2024 seat matrix of the institutes, labs and lecture halls and other infra hasnt improved by even a % in nits, they are literally giving faecal water in top 3 nit like nitk surathkal, 1900s level infra in mnnit a, nit raipur doesnt give hostel to general category students
dtu has so much intake that what should i say now

 

[Vinash]

Last month, we sent 3X iPhones to the USA compared to China.

Mercurial rise!


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[crazywithmath]

bhai how much more intake you want?? compared to 2018 level and now, literally people in nits are living in double seater rooms with 4 people, 3 beds 2 table, is it liveable? in iits still its better that double seater rooms have 3 people

iits nits iiits are running at 1.5+x strength due to govt blindly increasing intake, what about jobs?? pvt sector dhandho want profit, they dont want to give pay, our colleges have become software engineer plants

you want vit level intake in iit? 5000 cs students in iitb, 5000 in delhi, 5000 in kanpur 5000 in madras?? #PradhanMantriAbHarKoiIITianBanegaYojna

man just compare 2018 and 2024 seat matrix of the institutes, labs and lecture halls and other infra hasnt improved by even a % in nits, they are literally giving faecal water in top 3 nit like nitk surathkal, 1900s level infra in mnnit a, nit raipur doesnt give hostel to general category students
dtu has so much intake that what should i say now

That is precisely what I am saying, no? That the govt does not spend enough on these elite institutions? Else, given the kind of land parcels these IITs are in possession of, building new hostels/classrooms should not even be an issue.

Some enrollment figures I found online;

Harvard -> 22k
UC Berkeley-> 45k
NUS (Singapore) -> 34k
ETH Zurich -> 25k
TU Munich -> 53k
U Tokyo -> 28k
Oxford -> 26k
Cambridge -> 24k
Stanford -> 18k

For comparison's sake;

IIT B -> 12k
IIT D -> 12k
IIT M -> 10k
IIT KGP -> 15k
IIT Kanpur -> 8k
IIT Guwahati -> 8k
IIT Roorkee -> 10k
IIT Hyderabad -> 5k
IISc -> 5k

Building greenfield IITs/NITs/IIITs/IISERs is NOT the solution.