Indian Navy Developments & Discussions (14 Viewers)

[Interested]

Not having strategic development in border states is similar to the mistake by Nehru.
Pakistan is right next door, they'll be able to target even if the refinery was in UP.

Easier to get to Gujarat than UP

And that solar park in the Kutch ... pure madness. No way to protect that at all

 

[swesh Annonamys Sanatani]

Indian Navy gets 6 new cutting-edge tech from DRDO. All you need to know

DRDO delivers six cutting-edge, indigenously developed nuclear, biological, and chemical defense systems to the Indian Navy, boosting national security

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Indian Navy gets 6 new cutting-edge tech from DRDO. All you need to know​

DRDO delivers six cutting-edge, indigenously developed nuclear, biological, and chemical defense systems to the Indian Navy, boosting national security

The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), on Tuesday, announced that it has handed over six strategic, indigenously designed and developed products, that meet the Navy Staff Qualitative Requirements (NSQR), to the Indian Navy.

NSQR refers to the essential capabilities and functional attributes that an equipment, system, or platform must fulfill to meet the operational needs of the Indian Navy.
Taking to social media, DRDO said it handed over Gamma Radiation Aerial Surveillance System (GRASS), Environmental Surveillance Vehicle (ESV), Vehicle Radiological Contamination Monitoring System (VRCMS), Underwater Gamma Radiation Monitoring System (UGRMS), Dirt Extractor and Cross Contamination Monitor (DECCOM), and Organ Radioactivity Detection System (ORDS) to the Navy.

Gamma Radiation Aerial Surveillance System (GRASS)​

GRASS is aimed at offering aerial radiological surveillance of nuclear-contaminated areas using a lightweight gamma radiation detection module, suitable for integration with unmanned aerial vehicles.

Environmental Surveillance Vehicle (ESV)​

Developed by DRDO's Vehicles Research and Development Establishment (VRDE), ESV is designed for rapid detection, identification, and monitoring of nuclear, biological, and chemical (NBC) contamination in potentially hazardous environments.

Vehicle Radiological Contamination Monitoring System (VRCMS)​

This system has been designed to detect, monitor, and survey radiological contamination on vehicles operating in nuclear-contaminated or radiologically hazardous environments.

Underwater Gamma Radiation Monitoring System (UGRMS)​

UGRMS measures gamma radiation levels underwater and transmits the data to a base station. The system will be useful in nuclear disaster management, radiological emergency response, surveillance in ports or coastal zones, and safety assurance near nuclear installations or during naval operations.

Dirt Extractor and Cross Contamination Monitor (DECCOM)​

Designed for use in environments where there is a risk of radiological, biological, or chemical contamination, this system is expected to help in extracting and analyzing contaminants from footwear; the system minimizes the risk of transferring dangerous substances between zones.

Organ Radioactivity Detection System (ORDS)​

ORDS is intended for the detection and monitoring of radioactivity levels in human organs in scenarios involving nuclear or radiological exposure.

Secretary, DDR&D and Chairman, DRDO, handed over these products to Admiral Sriram Amur, ACNS (SSP), Naval HQ, at a special ceremony held at the defence laboratory in Jodhpur.

 

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INS Nistar and INS Vikrant to return to Visakhapatnam​

INS Nistar and INS Vikrant to return to Visakhapatnam

Newly named warships, memorials, bring back memories of the navy’s finest hour on the East coast.

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They are going to homeport INS Vikrant in Vizag and so are all 7 Nilgiris going to be homeported over there.

All 8 Talwars, 7 P15A/B, INS Vikramaditya are for Western Fleet
All P15, Rajput destroyers, all Shivalik, all Nilgiris and INS Vikrant for Eastern Fleet

 

[liberalredditor]

INS Nistar and INS Vikrant to return to Visakhapatnam​

INS Nistar and INS Vikrant to return to Visakhapatnam

Newly named warships, memorials, bring back memories of the navy’s finest hour on the East coast.

chakranewz.com

They are going to homeport INS Vikrant in Vizag and so are all 7 Nilgiris going to be homeported over there.

All 8 Talwars, 7 P15A/B, INS Vikramaditya are for Western Fleet
All P15, Rajput destroyers, all Shivalik, all Nilgiris and INS Vikrant for Eastern Fleet

Eastern fleet should have more modern vessels and keep ancient ones to beat the shit out of porkis in western fleet.

 

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Eastern fleet should have more modern vessels and keep ancient ones to beat the shit out of porkis in western fleet.

Paapistanis are the more immediate threat.
If Chongs are moving a fleet towards us we will know and can send the ships over accordingly, they just have to sail across Lanka

 

[liberalredditor]

Paapistanis are the more immediate threat.
If Chongs are moving a fleet towards us we will know and can send the ships over accordingly, they just have to sail across Lanka

Porkis can be destroyed even with our ancient fleet, why to keep our modern vessels at western command when ancient can easily bombard karachi and other cheap chowmein ships? Our rajput class is enough to destroy their fisherman navy

 

[shade2]

Porkis can be destroyed even with our ancient fleet, why to keep our modern vessels at western command when ancient can easily bombard karachi and other cheap chowmein ships? Our rajput class is enough to destroy their fisherman navy

Rajput and other old ships will take losses in exchange.
Kolkata/Vizag class and Talwars will deliver overwhelming victory with minimum or nil losses.

With Balakot and Op Sindoor type conflicts it is essential that we have the good ships close by to do the needful at a short notice.

 

[Interested]

Rajput and other old ships will take losses in exchange.
Kolkata/Vizag class and Talwars will deliver overwhelming victory with minimum or nil losses.

With Balakot and Op Sindoor type conflicts it is essential that we have the good ships close by to do the needful at a short notice.

Correct in a way but Pakistan has nothing from a surface fleet stand point to even hit the Rajput class unless one of their few subs get very lucky .

 

[snakeeyes07]

Correct in a way but Pakistan has nothing from a surface fleet stand point to even hit the Rajput class unless one of their few subs get very lucky .

Not true:
- 4x Tughril (Type 054A) has 4x YJ12 each, their most capable missile
- 4x Babur (2 inducted so far) has 6x Harbah (babur derived AShM) or 6x SMASH (P282 ASBM)
- 4x F22P has 8x C-802, their least capable missile
- 4x Azmat missile boat has 6x Harbah or 8x C-802
- 4x Yarmook corvette has 8x Harbah
- 1x PNS Alamgir has Harpoon
- JF17s with CM400AKG, this too is a credible threat

Barak-8/MRSAM does the job for now defending against these threats but in near future Kusha and more VLS ships will be needed. is and will remain an excellent weapon against PN for the foreseeable future.

There is a reason why P15A and P15B are with western naval command. Might even need to deploy some P17A from ENC if and when full scale engagement is planned (with the goal of PN surface fleet destruction).

 

[DancingPeacock]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSefKMpxtqk

To any experts here including frenchyman- In this FDI Frigate, if you notice parts of video, water is spilling too much onto the deck from front. I think the design is rushed. There is also a paper from Naval Group of their findings of the Scaled down model in a lab and it gives some satisfactory answer regarding the spill but if you look in the video, the seawater is like constantly spilling after sticking to the surface- climbing up while the boat moves forward aka flow wrapping.

Would this design fare well long enough?

 

[DancingPeacock]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSefKMpxtqk

To any experts here including frenchyman- In this FDI Frigate, if you notice parts of video, water is spilling too much onto the deck from front. I think the design is rushed. There is also a paper from Naval Group of their findings of the Scaled down model in a lab and it gives some satisfactory answer regarding the spill but if you look in the video, the seawater is like constantly spilling after sticking to the surface- climbing up while the boat moves forward aka flow wrapping.

Would this design fare well long enough?

"The inverted bow, a real success
After the four phases of sea trials, in different weather conditions, the nautical qualities of the new French frigate were also demonstrated. The fin stabilizers make it roll less than the FREMMs, and the inverted bow designed by Naval Group's architects is considered a resounding success. In heavy weather, the ship does not slam into waves, it cuts through them and diverts the wave energy to the sides, which limits pitching and ensures no green water reaches the foredeck. This results in better seakeeping and therefore increased comfort for the crew. But above all, a more stable platform improves the operation of its sensors and certain weapons (such as the cannon and vertical launchers), while the absence of nose diving into waves prevents possible damage to the foredeck. Finally, the fact that the bow does not slam into the waves reduces the stress on the structure and therefore hull fatigue. The only side effect, when the swell is quite strong, is that the metal "spray rail" which protrudes from the top of the bow generates sea spray. But the sailors clearly consider this to be only a slight inconvenience, which can be dealt with simply by turning on the wipers on the bridge windows, and which is very much offset by the advantages provided by the inverted bow"

This is what I came across from internet. Perhaps what I described is this- "Spray Rail". Iam still thinking they are underestimating or downplaying it. That spray is not occassional but continuous.

Why the discusssion is because whether this can be some use to Indian Navy's future vessels.

 

[ArjunMK1A]

Paapistanis are the more immediate threat.
If Chongs are moving a fleet towards us we will know and can send the ships over accordingly, they just have to sail across Lanka

Pakistan Navy is fully dependent on Karachi which is under the range of every long range stand off weapons from Army, Airforce and Navy.

The port can be destroyed by an Army Regiment, Airforce can launch Scalp, A. Doing an strike on Karachi port will cripple them heavily, since we can take their maintenance fleet out of business. Remaining ships needs to operate from Gwadar port and other smaller ports. Meaning their action will be curtailed.

This can be done even without Navy involvement if we are doing preemptive strikes. Navy should ensure we are hunting the PN subs and clearing any mines they are laying.

Pakis were screwed up by Geography.

 

[bakofbakchod]

Still nothing on P-17bs almost 1 years after approval. MDL and GRSE frigate lines are now dry. Are they waiting for the workers to be laid off before placing new orders?

 

[FalconSlayers]

Rajput and other old ships will take losses in exchange.
Kolkata/Vizag class and Talwars will deliver overwhelming victory with minimum or nil losses.

With Balakot and Op Sindoor type conflicts it is essential that we have the good ships close by to do the needful at a short notice.

Navy's coastal missile batteries are enough to sink their surface fleet. Don't need to send ships to fight ships.

 

[snakeeyes07]

Navy's coastal missile batteries are enough to sink their surface fleet. Don't need to send ships to fight ships.
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Yes, LR-AShM and coastal batteries will be significant force multipliers, this coupled with Pakistan's problematic maritime geography (almost lateral/straight line from Gujarat's Kutch and Dwarka area)