GTRE GTX 35VS Kaveri

IMO we need 2 engine classes for our current indigenous jets.......




Class 1 -> Lets call it Kaveri MK 1 ➡️ (Kaveri dry with brahmos afterburner)

Kaveri Mk 1 🕉
Dry thrust ~52 Kn
Wet thrust ~82 Kn
Additional Weight of kaveri engine will just effect payload by just ~150 kg
Application -> Dry varient in ghatak , Wet varient in Tejas MK1A
Timeline ~ in 5 years
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Class 2 -> Lets call it Kaveri MK 2 ➡️ (DRDO JV engine)

Kaveri Mk 2 🕉
Dry thrust ~ 80 Kn
Wet thrust ~ (120-132) Kn
Weight ~ (1,200-1,300) Kg
Application -> De-rated varient of max thrust of 110 kn for Tejas MK2 & TEDBF , Enhanced thrust varient of max thrust (120-132) Kn for AMCA
Timeline ~ in 10 years
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Class 3 -> Kaveri MK 3 🕉 ➡️ (Adaptive cycle engine based on DRDO JV engine expertise) FUTURE 🕉💪
Wet thrust ~ 180 Kn
6 th gen engine
Fluid thrust vectoring
CMC blades

Timeline ~ in 15 years
Application -> 6 th gen fighter jet , 2 engine flying wing bomber
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Solution to our problems 🕉💪

GTRE projects "kaveri MK1 , MK2 & MK3 under PMO" with Ex DRDO chief & Ex DG GTRE as "project directors" with 15 Bn Funding in 10 years

1 x (IL-76/C17) & 2 x Su 30 mki as Flying testbed
High altitude aero test facility
 
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pipebomb said:
I am a little confused. I thought the screeching & instability were resolved in kaveri itself. What you're telling me is that it's not. And it's the dry kaveri that got rid of the issues mentioned ? Am I missing something here ?
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After the Safran consultation they went back and started over with a roadmap in mind and resolved the screeching and instability. Now they got a dry Kaveri engine without those issues. Next step is to add the afterburner.
 
TopWatcher said:
Will not current karveri integrated into current tejas ? May be tejas not provide performance due to heaving ness of kaveri, but atleast can be aired and do incremental correctness.
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Yes, but who will tell, always denanding upto rate IAF? the organization in past has done iterations with folland gnats, mig-21s, ouragans, etc. these fighters when they were first inducted were not up to date but were still inducted, only after spending sometime in squadrons and with continous upgradation, these fighters that I named just above reached their full potential.

Maybe IAF forgot their seniors resourceful skills.
Equally important is HAL babus failure here, they failed nation. They could not even deliver first 40 lots. What to say.
 
Aaj Ka Hero said:
Yes, but who will tell, always denanding upto rate IAF? the organization in past has done iterations with folland gnats, mig-21s, ouragans, etc. these fighters when they were first inducted were not up to date but were still inducted, only after spending sometime in squadrons and with continous upgradation, these fighters that I named just above reached their full potential.

Maybe IAF forgot their seniors resourceful skills.
Equally important is HAL babus failure here, they failed nation. They could not even deliver first 40 lots. What to say.
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HAL delivered 38 out of 40 and several MK1As. It is not HAL's fault if IAF intentionally delayed payment for the order by 8 or 9 years.
 
AGNI 6 ICBM said:
IMO we need 2 engine classes for our current indigenous jets.......




Class 1 -> Lets call it Kaveri MK 1 ➡️ (Kaveri dry with brahmos afterburner)

Kaveri Mk 1 🕉
Dry thrust ~52 Kn
Wet thrust ~82 Kn
Additional Weight of kaveri engine will just effect payload by just ~150 kg
Application -> Dry varient in ghatak , Wet varient in Tejas MK1A
Timeline ~ in 5 years
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Class 2 -> Lets call it Kaveri MK 2 ➡️ (DRDO JV engine)

Kaveri Mk 2 🕉
Dry thrust ~ 80 Kn
Wet thrust ~ (120-132) Kn
Weight ~ (1,200-1,300) Kg
Application -> De-rated varient of max thrust of 110 kn for Tejas MK2 & TEDBF , Enhanced thrust varient of max thrust (120-132) Kn for AMCA
Timeline ~ in 10 years
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Class 3 -> Kaveri MK 3 🕉 ➡️ (Adaptive cycle engine based on DRDO JV engine expertise) FUTURE 🕉💪
Wet thrust ~ 180 Kn
6 th gen engine
Fluid thrust vectoring
CMC blades

Timeline ~ in 15 years
Application -> 6 th gen fighter jet , 2 engine flying wing bomber
View attachment 21822

Solution to our problems 🕉💪

GTRE projects "kaveri MK1 , MK2 & MK3 under PMO" with Ex DRDO chief & Ex DG GTRE as "project directors" with 15 Bn Funding in 10 years

1 x (IL-76/C17) & 2 x Su 30 mki as Flying testbed
High altitude aero test facility
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U providing a solution or it's a drdo plan??
 
Kaveri DTE derived engine shall be 45/74 kn engine. The next iteration presumably with required "ToT" from GE shall give you GE404 IN level of thrust but with slightly more weight than GE404. Then there are quite bold and lofty plans of 5th Gen engines of 100+kn.

This rough summary of SJha's IAH which i understood from quick staggered listening.
 
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