Indian Culture and society

ezsasa said:
too costly for now, hopefully it gets cheaper later.
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Handbook of Indian History​

Dr. Lavanya Vemsani

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Handbook of Indian History

This comprehensive volume presents an Innovative and interdisciplinary history of India by focusing on unifying themes of history.
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Handbook of Indian History

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Miss Firing said:
This book has been cancelled by white professors who are upset at Hindus telling history from their vantage point & not that of the Muslims

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White Professors of ‘Islamic studies’ attack Hindu academic for not re-telling Indian history from Muslim perspective​


'Handbook of Indian History', edited by Professor Lavanya Vemsani, contains 21 chapters and includes new groundbreaking research on Indian history

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I've a different take on it . A lot of academia dedicated to Hindu causes believe Islam its effects & the following it commands in the sub continent are to be ignored.

A large part of it I suspect is in reaction to the Left Liberal view of it , past & contemporary , within & without India , who've painted it in glowing terms glossing over its many excesses & the real damage it has done to the body politic of not just the land & its people but the many Indic religions it has borne .

In my view this is an extremely myopic view . Instead these historians can quote verse & chapter from the chronicles of the many famous Islamic court historians from that era from within & outside India on the many depredations it subjected India too .

A lot of these very same Marxist historians like Irfan Habib has done some pioneering work on the economy & social conditions prevailing hete during the Mughals. It's a damning indictment of the condition of the ordinary people especially the native Hindus who were valuable to the emperor only in so far as they were productive .

Any lapses in paying taxes could & would be threatened with imprisonment , exile even death but that was the known story . This is the defence the Marxist historians make as this would be true of absolute monarchies everywhere around the world then , before &
even later in the mediaeval period.

However this is where the negationism in their whole world view & work is exposed. These same workers & peasants also had to contend with slavery & sexual slavery of the women folk & children not only in principal centers of the Mughal Empire but in the Islamic world of Central Asia & Persia . And the numbers here on a per year basis runs into the hundreds of thousands .

All these have been fairly well documented by the court historians then as well as in the extensive communication between various actors & in the records that have survived This aspect of the Mughal Empire & its predecessor has been completely suppressed .

All we need to do is expose this hypocrisy using extant works. I won't even get into Bibek Debroy's lament of millions of old manuscripts lying around neglected , untranslated & uncurated. That's a lament for another time
 
Azaad said:
I've a different take on it . A lot of academia dedicated to Hindu causes believe Islam its effects & the following it commands in the sub continent are to be ignored.

A large part of it I suspect is in reaction to the Left Liberal view of it , past & contemporary , within & without India , who've painted it in glowing terms glossing over its many excesses & the real damage it has done to the body politic of not just the land & its people but the many Indic religions it has borne .

In my view this is an extremely myopic view . Instead these historians can quote verse & chapter from the chronicles of the many famous Islamic court historians from that era from within & outside India on the many depredations it subjected India too .

A lot of these very same Marxist historians like Irfan Habib has done some pioneering work on the economy & social conditions prevailing hete during the Mughals. It's a damning indictment of the condition of the ordinary people especially the native Hindus who were valuable to the emperor only in so far as they were productive .

Any lapses in paying taxes could & would be threatened with imprisonment , exile even death but that was the known story . This is the defence the Marxist historians make as this would be true of absolute monarchies everywhere around the world then , before &
even later in the mediaeval period.

However this is where the negationism in their whole world view & work is exposed. These same workers & peasants also had to contend with slavery & sexual slavery of the women folk & children not only in principal centers of the Mughal Empire but in the Islamic world of Central Asia & Persia . And the numbers here on a per year basis runs into the hundreds of thousands .

All these have been fairly well documented by the court historians then as well as in the extensive communication between various actors & in the records that have survived This aspect of the Mughal Empire & its predecessor has been completely suppressed .

All we need to do is expose this hypocrisy using extant works. I won't even get into Bibek Debroy's lament of millions of old manuscripts lying around neglected , untranslated & uncurated. That's a lament for another time
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as far as this book(handbook) goes, it says in the introduction chapter that this was conceptualised to showcase less researched aspects of Indian history. and there are many aspects of Indian history, where islamic rule is not a central theme. check the table of contents, in the google link in my post.

anecdotally, some 15-20 years ago i had come across info that someone was doing Phd on rangoli. at that time, i had low opinion on it since i was thinking only in terms of hard power. but now i appreciate soft power aspects of history and culture.

both hard power and soft power are required to arrive at a complete picture of our history and culture.

as far as correcting the marxist "facts" of Indian history is concerned, someone else can take it up,like vikram sampath's recent book. every history project need not chase the same goal.
 
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Street Hawkers of Shimla

When I reminisce about my boyhood days in Shimla in the 1950s, a vivid memory comes to mind—the street hawkers. They were the purveyors of the tastiest treats a boy could imagine. Sweet, salty, and tangy—every flavor that could delight a young boy’s taste buds was on offer. Of course, there were others selling everyday general merchandise, but at twelve years old, I had no interest in those. The hawkers usually gathered near the school entrance, moving around during the day and returning after the school’s closing bell. Their business was brisk in the morning when eager schoolchildren spent their daily pocket allowance. Afternoons, however, were quieter, despite their spirited efforts with songs and rhymes to draw in customers.

My pocket allowance was just one “Anna” until I reached grade eight, after which it doubled to two Annas —a small fortune in those days. Though I was expected to spend it during recess, the money often burned a hole in my pocket, compelling me to spend it sooner rather than later.

Near the school entrance stood a middle-aged man with a familiar rhyme:

“Channa Chor Garam, Babu, Mai Laya Channa Chor Garam!”

He sold salty, spiced chickpeas, neatly packed in paper cones for one Anna. This was one of my favorite treats, a much-needed contrast to the not-so-exciting glass of milk and plain parantha I had for breakfast. I always tried to finish this treat before the school bell rang. If I couldn’t, the cone would be tucked into my satchel, already bursting with books.

My other favorite treat was the sweet and sour (or rather tangy) churan. For just half an anna, the vendor would scoop a small amount into a newspaper wrapper. Its taste was nothing short of extraordinary. He used a large metal plate, about three feet in diameter, where he displayed three different flavors in small heaps. You could choose sweet, sour, or something in between. My favorite was the midway flavor, while girls, his other customers, often opted for the sour one.

Another favorite among us boys was a gel-like sweet treat sold by a man with a unique setup. He had a “Y”-shaped stand, about six feet high, from which he displayed a large block of the sugary gel. To draw customers, he mimicked the sounds of various birds—parrots, sparrows, hummingbirds, and more. These sounds were his trademark, and we were always fascinated, trying to figure out how he made them.

For one anna, he would cut off a small piece of the gel block and ask his customer, “What should I make for you?” Whether it was a sparrow, a hookah, or a figurine of a man, he would twist and shape the gel into the requested form in under a minute. It was mesmerizing to watch. After proudly showing off the creation, we would finally eat it—it was as fun to admire as it was to savor.

In 2010, I visited Shimla and was delighted to see someone still selling the same treat. It wasn’t the same man, but his grandson, carrying on the tradition with the same bird calls and an equally eager crowd of customers.

There are many more delights I could recount from my school days, but the ones above remain the most vivid in my memory.
 
Ya'll Nibbiars No Seal, No Deal.

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Suryavanshi said:
I mean did she claim virginity?
Hence why girls should not let their bf makes videos of intimate time.
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Not a great take. It looks like you are encouraging girls to have PMS and then hide it with their future husband.

Nothing wrong with PMS as long as you don't hide the fact when it comes to getting an arranged marriage.

But, we all know how honest women are when it comes to their sexual history.
 
haldilal said:
Ya'll Nibbiars No Seal, No Deal.

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Saw a similar case in 2019 in my friend's brother's marriage.

Girl's ex-bf showed up 1 hour before the Muhurtham. Girl ditched him and agreed to marry the rich guy with a job in Dubai.

Complete chaos with some suggesting to end the wedding and the girl's parents literally falling on the feet of the groom. Groom married her while bawling his eyes out.

They have 2 kids now. Guy very rarely mingles with his friend group these days and seems ashamed of her.
 
Vinash said:
Not a great take. It looks like you are encouraging girls to have PMS and then hide it with their future husband.

Nothing wrong with PMS as long as you don't hide the fact when it comes to getting an arranged marriage.

But, we all know how honest women are when it comes to their sexual history.
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No I was implying the same thing.
If she is claiming virginity and than the video surfaces than she's the one at fault.
I would personally be uncomfortable if video of my wife doing the deed surfaced in the future. I don't support making videos of intimate time No matter what, that's sign of being extra depraved.
 
Suryavanshi said:
No I was implying the same thing.
If she is claiming virginity and than the video surfaces than she's the one at fault.
I would personally be uncomfortable if video of my wife doing the deed surfaced in the future. I don't support making videos of intimate time No matter what, that's sign of being extra depraved.
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She's from a small town in Rajasthan.

You think she'd do anything other than claim virginity in an AM scene?
 
Vinash said:
Saw a similar case in 2019 in my friend's brother's marriage.

Girl's ex-bf showed up 1 hour before the Muhurtham. Girl ditched him and agreed to marry the rich guy with a job in Dubai.

Complete chaos with some suggesting to end the wedding and the girl's parents literally falling on the feet of the groom. Groom married her while bawling his eyes out.

They have 2 kids now. Guy very rarely mingles with his friend group these days and seems ashamed of her.
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You know nothing burb kolkata was extra depraved.
We came to know about a girl who used to be our classmate now works as a high profile call girl.
She moved to Hyd but some guy found her while mongering.
Lots of college girls do side hustle in Spas here and than even get married to unsuspecting dudes. They do all this for what? Some extra cash, Gucci glasses, bags, holidays.

I would pay lakhs to run a baground check on my future wife if I could. Shit is insane bruh, I am literally scared of mairrage.
 
Suryavanshi said:
10 years ago I would agree with you but even dehat is reaching new low these days.
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Dehat and upper class has always been degenerate.

It was always the middle class that was pious.
 
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