Indian Culture and society

[Vinash]

One of the reasons I see a slow but sure death of Hinduism in India unless some radical changes happen is due to RW Hindus themselves.

12K likes on a post praising a Hindu woman who married a Christian foreigner. We went from disowning women who did ICM to this below.

Most RW Hindus i.e 80-90% are just Liberals who cosplay as Hindus due to their fear of Islam.


View: https://x.com/sadaashree/status/1930076800039956612

 

[redpanda]

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@johny_baba

This is stupid. Shastras advise ill, elderly & children, people with weak constitutions, pregnant women, physical labourers, mentally distressed people etc to not fast. Yet some ill minded holymen promote fasting as some miracle solution for everything.

 

[LastMythin]

One of the reasons I see a slow but sure death of Hinduism in India unless some radical changes happen is due to RW Hindus themselves.

12K likes on a post praising a Hindu woman who married a Christian foreigner. We went from disowning women who did ICM to this below.

Most RW Hindus i.e 80-90% are just Liberals who cosplay as Hindus due to their fear of Islam.


View: https://x.com/sadaashree/status/1930076800039956612

Zinta is the only reason i backed rcb yesterday, no matter the hurt it caused me

 

[LastMythin]

This is stupid. Shastras advise ill, weak elderly & children, people with weak constitutions to not fast. Yet some holymen promote fasting as some miracle solution for everything.

no disrespect to jains or jainism, most people of their culture seem to be decent people. But the more i read about everyday jain practices and rituals, the more they seem like deliberate self destruction and self hatred.

 

[Anants]

dude do u did this type analysis with other non hindus also, if he say anything better for india or its culture for any reason??
i again dont understand even if he is doing this for making good impression or benefit for his company. whats wrong in this? no one will buy starlink or tesla, coz his father say good thing about india or its culture . it depend on that product quality nd price. dont become too defensive, if any one praising india or its culture. we r not making him our baba or becoming his bhakt for that....

Its ok if sayz this in US and in non Indian states. Or even if he had said so during non business trips. But using it during business trips in India - is clearly to mellow down Indians - as we usually do. See to this day we celebrate colonist Max Mueller to this day. Come out of the need for validation. Once you are out of it - you will be able to see real intent, real value behind such statements. Sincere statements dont raise eyebrows. Insincere ones do.

 

[Vinash]

One of the reasons I see a slow but sure death of Hinduism in India unless some radical changes happen is due to RW Hindus themselves.

12K likes on a post praising a Hindu woman who married a Christian foreigner. We went from disowning women who did ICM to this below.

Most RW Hindus i.e 80-90% are just Liberals who cosplay as Hindus due to their fear of Islam.


View: https://x.com/sadaashree/status/1930076800039956612

And this guy blocked me for merely pointing out that she married a Christian and asked what religion are her kids being raised in?





I found his profile description interesting. Guy thinks "Uses block button liberally" is a flex.

In my experience, it's very feminine men who act like this. Never met a masculine guy who isn't up for arguments. I'm not surprised that this effeminate, Liberal Hindu supports Preity Zinta.

His logic is, Preity Zinta is better than Swara Bhaskar and Sonakshi Sinha.

What a low bar.


View: https://x.com/sadaashree/status/1930146737429061720

 

[LastMythin]

And this guy blocked me for merely pointing out that she married a Christian and asked what religion are her kids being raised in?

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I found his profile description interesting. Guy thinks "Uses block button liberally" is a flex.

In my experience, it's very feminine men who act like this. Never met a masculine guy who isn't up for arguments. I'm not surprised that this effeminate, Liberal Hindu supports Preity Zinta.

His logic is, Preity Zinta is better than Swara Bhaskar and Sonakshi Sinha.

What a low bar.


View: https://x.com/sadaashree/status/1930146737429061720

Ah yes partially converting is fine saar! But no phull conversion!!
This pathological love that we Indians have for fair skin is going to prove to be our undoing. Seriously go to insta hordes young hindu boys and girls fantasizing about getting with a white. fucking disgusting
I also don't get why folks like the xitter op just love cuckposting

 

[vin pahadi (kumauni)]

Its ok if sayz this in US and in non Indian states. Or even if he had said so during non business trips. But using it during business trips in India - is clearly to mellow down Indians - as we usually do. See to this day we celebrate colonist Max Mueller to this day. Come out of the need for validation. Once you are out of it - you will be able to see real intent, real value behind such statements. Sincere statements dont raise eyebrows. Insincere ones do.

look bro...i found a news in tweeter nd post it here. coz its elon father praising hinduism. i didnt go for his reasoning nd why he is doing it nd whats his goal in this?? coz it doesnt matter to me, who r praising or following hinduism for what reason. i occasionally use twitter, just to get some post in case of pakistan, indian economy or our culture/hinduism. do i expect people to appreciate or follow our culture? yes. but do my believe nd love depend on other people appreciation or following of our culture? No. so why is it validation seeking, when my believe didnt depend on others?

 

[Vinash]

Ah yes partially converting is fine saar! But no phull conversion!!
This pathological love that we Indians have for fair skin is going to prove to be our undoing. Seriously go to insta hordes young hindu boys and girls fantasizing about getting with a white. fucking disgusting
I also don't get why folks like the xitter op just love cuckposting

His logic is so dumb.

Apparently if she doesn't convert, it's fine to marry a Christian foreigner. Guess what? In both Preity Zinta's case and Swara's case the end result is the same i.e the kids won't be Hindu. So no, in the long run, Preity isn't better than Swara.

Liberal Hindus only act like Hindus because they are shit scared of Islam and that if Islam wins, their Liberalism will end. They support Hinduism not out of love for Hinduism but out of love for Liberalism and hatred of Islam.

As for the whites thing, it's weird. Even a decade ago, whites were seen as degenerates not fit for marriage etc in most Hindu households.

 

[Anants]

@vin pahadi (kumauni) my post is for twitter handle you quoted - who is portraying him as sanghi. Not for you personally

 

[The Juggernaut]

Mah independent woman, feminist ikan, empowered etc etc etc

In the end, will end up to some rich septaerian codger...

 

[johny_baba]

https://www.livemint.com/news/india/what-is-jain-ritual-santhara-3-year-old-battling-brain-tumour-dies-after-it-couple-makes-only-child-fast-unto-death-11746353449981.html

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@johny_baba

i initially decided to avoid responding to this, because well, the kid was already on last breaths and its parents only wanted good for him, i think nothing wrong was done here because kid was irredeemable, unfortunately, if this practice leads him to (whatever notion of) 'mukti' (they jainis follow), who are we to judge

This is stupid. Shastras advise ill, elderly & children, people with weak constitutions, pregnant women, physical labourers, mentally distressed people etc to not fast. Yet some ill minded holymen promote fasting as some miracle solution for everything.

no disrespect to jains or jainism, most people of their culture seem to be decent people. But the more i read about everyday jain practices and rituals, the more they seem like deliberate self destruction and self hatred.

BUT, having said that, i think people need to understand some nuanced differences between SHARMAN (or Brahminical) vs SHRAMAN thing before commenting on Hindu vs Jaini // Buddhist things,
and believe me, the other sides = jainis and 'specially buddhists are more aware about this difference than most hindus,

so what's Sharman vs Shraman thing?

there is a legit dichotomy called "Sharman vs Shraman" when it comes to dharmic things,
Sharman = Brahminical
Shraman = Jain/Buddhist

and from a learnt person we casually-jokingly call "udupi unkil" on teligram side, i've learnt that, BOTH SHARMANIC AND SHRAMANIC PATHS HAVE DIFFERENT PATHWAYS TOWARDS ATTAINING MUKTI - LIBERATION,
Sharmanic pathway starts from bottom-to-top in Kundalini, means muladhara chakra to sahasrara chakra,
Shramanic pathway is reverse,

but how come 'mukti' liberation differs here ?

Sharmanic mukti means fulfilling the life by doing purushartha (dharma-artha-kama-moksha) , balancing karma and eventually reaching that state where an aatman doesn't have an purposeful attachment left towards samsara so it can just be free

Shramanic mukti, on the other hand, is nihilistic mukti , you may still do purushartha but their pathway is like being so numb in senses by deliberate 'strangling' of things like desires and all that aatman has no attachment left in samsara so it can eventually 'detach', you know

and sadly, in modern day, a hell of people have been made to believe that mukti is pathway towards nihilism

to know more, ask any true dharmic yogi or guru about it

*note - those 'shamanic' things have little to do with this dichotomies here so don't get confused over similarity in words

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So coming to that kid's suffering and all, you can perhaps see it better way now why it happened...

 

[redpanda]

i initially decided to avoid responding to this, because well, the kid was already on last breaths and its parents only wanted good for him, i think nothing wrong was done here because kid was irredeemable, unfortunately, if this practice leads him to (whatever notion of) 'mukti' (they jainis follow), who are we to judge




BUT, having said that, i think people need to understand some nuanced differences between SHARMAN (or Brahminical) vs SHRAMAN thing before commenting on Hindu vs Jaini // Buddhist things,
and believe me, the other sides = jainis and 'specially buddhists are more aware about this difference than most hindus,

so what's Sharman vs Shraman thing?

there is a legit dichotomy called "Sharman vs Shraman" when it comes to dharmic things,
Sharman = Brahminical
Shraman = Jain/Buddhist

and from a learnt person we casually-jokingly call "udupi unkil" on teligram side, i've learnt that, BOTH SHARMANIC AND SHRAMANIC PATHS HAVE DIFFERENT PATHWAYS TOWARDS ATTAINING MUKTI - LIBERATION,
Sharmanic pathway starts from bottom-to-top in Kundalini, means muladhara chakra to sahasrara chakra,
Shramanic pathway is reverse,

but how come 'mukti' liberation differs here ?

Sharmanic mukti means fulfilling the life by doing purushartha (dharma-artha-kama-moksha) , balancing karma and eventually reaching that state where an aatman doesn't have an purposeful attachment left towards samsara so it can just be free

Shramanic mukti, on the other hand, is nihilistic mukti , you may still do purushartha but their pathway is like being so numb in senses by deliberate 'strangling' of things like desires and all that aatman has no attachment left in samsara so it can eventually 'detach', you know

and sadly, in modern day, a hell of people have been made to believe that mukti is pathway towards nihilism

to know more, ask any true dharmic yogi or guru about it

*note - those 'shamanic' things have little to do with this dichotomies here so don't get confused over similarity in words

*-*-*-*-*-*

So coming to that kid's suffering and all, you can perhaps see it better way now why it happened...

Yeah I understand some of the cultural practice differences. But I think fasting unto death should be something a child shouldn't be subjected to. There are similar practices even in some hindu ascetic sects. As far as I know from my Jain friends even they believe in the idea that certain kind of folks shouldn't fast. There are a lot nuances involved in this fasting till death idea even in Jainism. Some jain might even argue that as suicide or self-death in dispair is prohibited, it shouldn't be allowed in this case. This issue is a theologically debatable topic even within Jainism.


Now from a personal point of view I think the child was already suffering enough. Why increase his suffering by further making him fast till death? I would say the Hindu way of relieving people on last minutes of their life is much better approach. Reciting Bhagvad Gita. I would like to clarify by no means I am trying to discredit or insult Jains.