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firstly, a JNU VC could not have written such a piece before 2014.

i think this is a good test for ideologues who have a lot of opinions on a lot of events, whether they have the self-awareness and intent to seize the opportunity and convert this into something concrete including public awareness.

if they have awareness about seizing the opportunity, all they need to do is co-ordinate between themselves and talk about this topic collectively in relay for about a month, nothing more is expected of them.
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Where are India’s Oral History departments?
by JNU VC Shantishree Dhulipudi pandit
sundayguardianlive.com

Where are India’s Oral History departments? - The Sunday Guardian Live

As Bharat steps confidently into its Amrit Kaal by working towards the idea of Viksit Bharat, it is imperative to reflect on how Bharat and Bhartiya
sundayguardianlive.com
 
A lot of folks get offended by the elephant representation of India in western and Chinese media. Their intention is often to make fun of India. But remember that elephant is a very intelligent creature. It knows empathy but it's also knows how to crush the folks who mess with its family and territory.

In Indian culture elephant is associated three gods, Indra, Ganesha and Mata Lakshmi. Indra is considered one of the mightiest warrior, destroyer of fort, one of the most intelligent man, the mightiest dragon slayer, etc. in our literatures. And Ganesha even though mostly associated with wisdom is heavily associated with war as well. The name vighnaharta comes from his association with war and strife. So no need to be offended by the elephant depiction. Embrace it. Be proud that India is the elephant of Indra. Just like Indra we will eventually conquer the Vritra.
 
redpanda said:
A lot of folks get offended by the elephant representation of India in western and Chinese media. Their intention is often to make fun of India. But remember that elephant is a very intelligent creature. It knows empathy but it's also knows how to crush the folks who mess with its family and territory.

In Indian culture elephant is associated three gods, Indra, Ganesha and Mata Lakshmi. Indra is considered one of the mightiest warrior, destroyer of fort, one of the most intelligent man, the mightiest dragon slayer, etc. in our literatures. And Ganesha even though mostly associated with wisdom is heavily associated with war as well. The name vighnaharta comes from his association with war and strife. So no need to be offended by the elephant depiction. Embrace it. Be proud that India is the elephant of Indra. Just like Indra we will eventually conquer the Vritra.
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Nibbas behaving like Elephant is some farm animal like a goat or a cow.

It is a strong animal which can crush the opposition under it's feet or gore them with it's tusks, it may not seem as active as a tiger but it is also strong.

Meanwhile the other side has it's mascot as a mythical creature to show aggression :bplease:

btw if you want to mock the chongs use Panda, that is what they used earlier when they had to show they weren't aggressive
 
shade2 said:
Nibbas behaving like Elephant is some farm animal like a goat or a cow.

It is a strong animal which can crush the opposition under it's feet or gore them with it's tusks, it may not seem as active as a tiger but it is also strong.

Meanwhile the other side has it's mascot as a mythical creature to show aggression :bplease:

btw if you want to mock the chongs use Panda, that is what they used earlier when they had to show they weren't aggressive
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Lmao the word for dragon in Chinese is Long. And that words means snake. Basically it's a fucking snake. Chinese are appropriately called snake oil seller. Even in Indian literature such creatures are called Ahi i.e snake. Vritra was a flying snake.
 
shade2 said:
if you want to mock the chongs use Panda, that is what they used earlier when they had to show they weren't aggressive
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It might be in the past, but I have talked to some Chinese who claim that pandas are very aggressive and in ancient times were used by their generals for wars and were called "Iron eating beast". They hype up the pandas a lot. (All of those claims are false btw)
redpanda said:
the word for dragon in Chinese is Long. And that words means snake. Basically it's a fucking snake.
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Which is ironic, because they make fun of western dragons as "just lizards", "reptiles", "flying lizards" and evil monsters while their dragons are supposedly gods. Even though, the Chinese dragons gets curbstomped in most of their own stories, whether by sun wukong, nezha, Lu dongbin or erlang Shen.
 
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neelaslayer said:
Mleccha artists and celebs in india are hinduphobes and traitors.


View: https://x.com/TheSquind/status/1938850097191878902?t=Cpzbb6FyI967mc2mkCCGPw&s=19
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They have a card called "We are globalist, humanist" to hide their Islamist love for Pakistan. It's your typical bullawood celeb behaviour. If you question their behaviour, they will resort to "Humanity shouldn't be bound by borders, Pakistanis are also human bla bla bla." Avg globo-homo slop which doesn't take any context, historical reality into account. But such a crap is expected from those guys, they live in their own bubble. Those guys are disconnected from India that we live. Thre is a reason Chanakya consider such folks not suitable for politics. Because they live in their own bubble, and patriotism is very very rare among them.
 
redpanda said:
They have a card called "We are globalist, humanist" to hide their Islamist love for Pakistan. It's your typical bullawood celeb behaviour. If you question their behaviour, they will resort to "Humanity shouldn't be bound by borders, Pakistanis are also human bla bla bla." Avg globo-homo slop which doesn't take any context, historical reality into account. But such a crap is expected from those guys, they live in their own bubble. Those guys are disconnected from India that we live. Thre is a reason Chanakya consider such folks not suitable for politics. Because they live in their own bubble, and patriotism is very very rare among them.
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Even "hindu" nautankis from bollywood do the same.

ISI has them by the balls because of their penchant for money laundering and stashing their cash in foreign cities like Dubai, aside from them being degenerates so they can acquire kompromat.

Greens ofc do it for qaum and mazhub, you have Aamir Khan mocking hondus with PK but you also have him going on Hajj with his ammi 🤲, all such rationalist sermonizing is for one religious grouping only.
 
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There is apparently an indonesian film series that has superheroes( power ranges type ) based on the Mahabharat.
One of these, Ghatotkach is on Netflix also

O_O
 
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View: https://youtu.be/Rn_G71C41H0?si=fZBdlU5kFG3c0uA9


View: https://youtu.be/9CxjL0jkgQA?si=AfR7yqSpBv9SOtcs

Ashish Dhar is always a pleasure to listen to on the topic of Sanatan civilizational past present & future. Unfortunately I haven't had the opportunity to listen to his views as much as I'd have preferred.

He hasn't got the kind of coverage or reach that say an Anand Ranganathan or a JSD might have . Part of this has to do with the fact that he avoids the media which he himself confesses to & is surprising to say the least for he's the head of the media channel Upword on YT X & other SM besides being part of Indic Collective whose very existence is premised on reaching out to people

Be that as it may , here's the interview on which he holds forth on the multiple pressing contemporary issues challenging Sanatan society & what he believes ought to be done .

He doesn't offer any quick fixes for there are none to be offered nor does he sugar coat his words which some may not appreciate but if you're interested in an original voice who articulates what you feel in your bones but couldn't find the right words to express it in , in the manner you'd wish to , I'd strongly urge you to hear him out.

I always come out of shows featuring him , on the few occasions he does a podcast & I stumble upon it , hugely enlightened even if I go into it thinking I know it all or most of whatever there is to know about the topic.

This podcast seems rambling for it has been split into several episodes for let's face it most of us don't have the time & if we do ,we lack the attention span to sit through an hour long podcast. Nonetheless , if you have read this far I'd recommend you see it .

It may just open up a new universe or enhance your world view or blow you away or provide you with sharp tools with which to better dissect the societal issues plaguing Sanatan Dharma at hand depending on which stage of the journey you're in .

You may be interested @ezsasa ; @Anants ; @concard ; @shade2 ; @redpanda et al
 
Azaad said:
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View: https://youtu.be/Rn_G71C41H0?si=fZBdlU5kFG3c0uA9


View: https://youtu.be/9CxjL0jkgQA?si=AfR7yqSpBv9SOtcs

Ashish Dhar is always a pleasure to listen to on the topic of Sanatan civilizational past present & future. Unfortunately I haven't had the opportunity to listen to his views as much as I'd have preferred.

He hasn't got the kind of coverage or reach that say an Anand Ranganathan or a JSD might have . Part of this has to do with the fact that he avoids the media which he himself confesses to & is surprising to say the least for he's the head of the media channel Upword on YT X & other SM besides being part of Indic Collective whose very existence is premised on reaching out to people

Be that as it may , here's the interview on which he holds forth on the multiple pressing contemporary issues challenging Sanatan society & what he believes ought to be done .

He doesn't offer any quick fixes for there are none to be offered nor does he sugar coat his words which some may not appreciate but if you're interested in an original voice who articulates what you feel in your bones but couldn't find the right words to express it in , in the manner you'd wish to , I'd strongly urge you to hear him out.

I always come out of shows featuring him , on the few occasions he does a podcast & I stumble upon it , hugely enlightened even if I go into it thinking I know it all or most of whatever there is to know about the topic.

This podcast seems rambling for it has been split into several episodes for let's face it most of us don't have the time & if we do ,we lack the attention span to sit through an hour long podcast. Nonetheless , if you have read this far I'd recommend you see it .

It may just open up a new universe or enhance your world view or blow you away or provide you with sharp tools with which to better dissect the societal issues plaguing Sanatan Dharma at hand depending on which stage of the journey you're in .

You may be interested @ezsasa ; @Anants ; @concard ; @shade2 ; @redpanda et al
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Tbh JSD and Ranga have lost a lot of goodwill they had with their pompous tone among right leaning folks. Issue is they tends to act like they have a solution but they don't really have one. For example JSD and Ranga were trolling BJP constantly for Bengal, meanwhile JSD never fought a single case for Bengal victims. It was unironically BJP which was helping those victims by getting lawyers for them, fighting cases for them.

I would say this guy is somewhat better than those guys because he keeps low profile unlike them. And he doesn't offer quick solution.
 
Azaad said:
... contd from above ...


View: https://youtu.be/Rn_G71C41H0?si=fZBdlU5kFG3c0uA9


View: https://youtu.be/9CxjL0jkgQA?si=AfR7yqSpBv9SOtcs

Ashish Dhar is always a pleasure to listen to on the topic of Sanatan civilizational past present & future. Unfortunately I haven't had the opportunity to listen to his views as much as I'd have preferred.

He hasn't got the kind of coverage or reach that say an Anand Ranganathan or a JSD might have . Part of this has to do with the fact that he avoids the media which he himself confesses to & is surprising to say the least for he's the head of the media channel Upword on YT X & other SM besides being part of Indic Collective whose very existence is premised on reaching out to people

Be that as it may , here's the interview on which he holds forth on the multiple pressing contemporary issues challenging Sanatan society & what he believes ought to be done .

He doesn't offer any quick fixes for there are none to be offered nor does he sugar coat his words which some may not appreciate but if you're interested in an original voice who articulates what you feel in your bones but couldn't find the right words to express it in , in the manner you'd wish to , I'd strongly urge you to hear him out.

I always come out of shows featuring him , on the few occasions he does a podcast & I stumble upon it , hugely enlightened even if I go into it thinking I know it all or most of whatever there is to know about the topic.

This podcast seems rambling for it has been split into several episodes for let's face it most of us don't have the time & if we do ,we lack the attention span to sit through an hour long podcast. Nonetheless , if you have read this far I'd recommend you see it .

It may just open up a new universe or enhance your world view or blow you away or provide you with sharp tools with which to better dissect the societal issues plaguing Sanatan Dharma at hand depending on which stage of the journey you're in .

You may be interested @ezsasa ; @Anants ; @concard ; @shade2 ; @redpanda et al
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allow me to go a bit of a tangent here, since this has been bothering me for a few years now.

as a generic observation on these gyanis, after the boost they got during covid ( work from home years) when they had a captive audience , post that period their audience largely flatlined. none of the so-called non-left social media ideologies have views which translates to reach of their message. sure, integrity of messaging is appreciated and it is of immense value. integrity of messaging as in not doing self-contradictory flip flops in messaging frequently.

i am wondering, if they are not able to expand their reach under favourable conditions which is under their direct control, will they be able to sustain their reach under hostile conditions whenever the next round happens. on the other hand, marxist ideologues reach on SM continues to be in crores daily on SM, this supposedly under hostile conditions for their ideology. USAID and european funding can come back anytime, when most of time is spent defending from external narrative attacks and activism.

which brings me to the question, if they are not able to manage their own affairs in this case expanding their own reach, how wholesome are their observations and cautions on Bharat and civilisation as a whole, which is far more complex system over time, space and people.
 
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ezsasa said:
allow me to go a bit of a tangent here, since this has been bothering me for a few years now.

as a generic observation on these gyanis, after the boost they got during covid ( work from home years) when they had a captive audience , post that period their audience largely flatlined. none of the so-called non-left social media ideologies have views which translates to reach of their message. sure, integrity of messaging is appreciated and it is of immense value. integrity of messaging as in not doing self-contradictory of flip flops in messaging frequently.

i am wondering, if they are not able to expand their reach under favourable conditions which is under their direct control, will they be able to sustain their reach under hostile conditions whenever the next round happens. on the other hand, marxist ideologues reach on SM continues to be in crores daily on SM, this supposedly under hostile conditions for their ideology. USAID and european funding can come back anytime, when most of time is spent defending from external narrative attacks and activism.

which brings me to the question, if they are not able to manage their own affairs in this case expanding their own reach, how wholesome are their observations and cautions on Bharat and civilisation as a whole, which is far more complex system over time, space and people.
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Good points. I would venture if the entire Overton window has been framed from the liberal leftist western perspective over the past 3-4 generations across the world including our own country at the very least with each succeeding generation shifting their views a few degrees further left carrying the Overton window along with them how easy is it to awaken such a people to the dangers posed.

Let's take for example the UK & its relationship with radical Islam within. I mean this is something that has happened over the past 3-4 decades within our own lifetimes even if the roots of it lay in the past & given our long experiences with the latter religion we could extrapolate how things could've turned out , yet for a mature democracy whose voters voted out Churchill who delivered them from their biggest existential crisis in a millenium where in any other country or people such a man would be a dead ringer to return to power ostensibly coz he was widely perceived to be a warmonger which he was , how then are we to explain their ignorance or apathy to this problem ?

It's gotten progessively worse for the UK where practically daily revelations of the Islamic grooming gangs only serves to underline how deep the problems go vis a vis integrating this community within the body fabric of the UK for the undying optimist , assuming such a project can be continued & the fallacy of multi culturalism with political correctness.

Yet it seems clear apart from superficial treatment of the problem at hand , the core issues which are the continued existence & gradual power accumulation of this community continues & will continue for the foreseeable future , these setbacks notwithstanding with the native population wringing their hands bereft of any satisfactory solution .

Now we can diagnose the situation regarding the native population there citing larger issues like the gradual collapse of the social order over a period of time from the collapse of the church to the community to the family , even the nuclear family among other factors like the economy , governmental policies , electoral politics , the inter play between these & various other factors not mentioned here , which has gotten the native population to this point whereas the Islamic population there has done exact the opposite to consolidate its position growing & accumulating power by the day .

I recall reading @shade2 on this topic on DFI where he correctly diagnosed the problem stating this problem would continue coz of the class problem in the UK wherein most if not all the victims of this targeting were the working classes whom the elite there literally view as trash . In many ways the class problem there has morphed into our caste problem minus the empowerment programs for the depressed classes we've undertaken. Ashish Dhar has elaborated on the point of the creation of a Sanatan elite who map out the various challenges faced by the larger Sanatan society today as well as formulate a solution besides articulating these views in public & providing leadership to the rest of the community . He's of the impression the west has these structures however dysfunctional they are as opposed to us where we haven't even created such an elite since independence.

Returning to your contention that these SM influencers have little reach & their comparison to the Dhruv Rathi types , I doubt if USAID is the only organization sustaining them. You've a whole ecosystem including the psychological make up of the people running these platforms who'd be inclined to support & more importantly promote a Dhruv Rathi over an Ashish Dhar which is exactly what's happening . It's a surprise we even get to hear an Ashish Dhar or his kind at all which I won't be surprised in the least if as this ideology gains popularity we will see a clamping down on them in the SM space since the MSM space has been pretty much sanitized of such people & their ideologies long ago.

I mean didn't we see reports of how employees of YT ( or was it some other SM or was it a case of all such SM ) gamed to promote opposition content in the last general elections ? After a minor storm in the tea cup following revelations in the MSM & SM the issue disappeared from public consciousness. Do we even know what happened to those individuals ? Were they fired ? What steps have the present government taken to prevent recurrence of this incident ? And this is a case in which they've been directly affected. How much of a role would dissemination of opposition propaganda have played in the BJP not getting a simple majority of its own ?
 
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