Indian Navy Developments & Discussions (6 Viewers)

[vampyrbladez]

View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1941106093331218776

Not sure about this but would make sense for something like the NGMV

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The French have something similar called the SIMBAD launcher for their Mistral MANPADs

If this is true then finally the NGMV will enter service with some kind of SAM system unlike a couple of spare Igla-S.

How feasible would it be to fit the RATEP Komar air-defence turret mount onto the Next Generation Missile Vessel (NGMV) given that it's likely armament is just :

• 4 x BrahMos ER
• 1 x 76 mm upgraded SRGM
• 2 x 30 mm AK 630 CIWS
• 2 x OFT 12.7 mm M2 Stabilized Remote Controlled Gun
• 16 x VL-SRSAM (FFBNW)

It looks like the mid section of the old design (2500 T) has been scrapped out and the new design (~1500 T) seems much smaller.

This removed the midship section for the earlier 8 x BrahMos ER and moved it to the fore using inclined launchers and displaced the VL-SRSAM.

This will at least give the ship some decent CIWS capabilities since each turret has electro-optical systems for independent targeting given that the alternative is manually aimed Igla-S missiles using Eyeball Mk 1.

Igla-S Naval launcher (old)

Komar Air Defence Turret (proposed)

https://roe.ru/eng/catalog/naval-systems/shipborne-weapons/komar-new/

Implementation on the Buyan M class corvette.

 

[vampyrbladez]

Could be used for the testing of an uprated DRDO AIP module for 3k ton submarine.
The author points 4 other uses but imo this is the best use case

Looks like Navy is pretty confident of getting the 3 additional Scorpene and P 75I cleared this FY 2026.

 

[vampyrbladez]

If this is true then finally the NGMV will enter service with some kind of SAM system unlike a couple of spare Igla-S.

View: https://x.com/Defencematrix1/status/1941148437199946109

 

[shade2]

View: https://x.com/Defencematrix1/status/1941148437199946109

What is the six tubed turret on the right of vshorads in pic?

 

[randombully]

What is the six tubed turret on the right of vshorads in pic?

Phoren system

 

[shade2]

Phoren system

nvm it's the Sadral launcher for Mistral missiles by le Francais

Sadral

 

[shade2]

This defence bro gives great overview of current and near future ships( Including Nilgiris and all ) and their missile counts, in addition the pics are also good


View: https://x.com/wartrophy_414/status/1918893490001281511



There is also an overview of the PN this way


View: https://x.com/wartrophy_414/status/1917791201677435047

Their latest Cheeni-maal frigates have only 4x supersonic Ashm per ship
Tughril is their only ship class which carries these supersonic ashms from Cheeni.

 

[Blood+]

This defence bro gives great overview of current and near future ships( Including Nilgiris and all ) and their missile counts, in addition the pics are also good


View: https://x.com/wartrophy_414/status/1918893490001281511



There is also an overview of the PN this way


View: https://x.com/wartrophy_414/status/1917791201677435047

Their latest Cheeni-maal frigates have only 4x supersonic Ashm per ship
Tughril is their only ship class which carries these supersonic ashms from Cheeni.

Huh... even the Pakistanis know that these are only for show, and once the bullets start flying, they won't last more than an hour into the fight.

 

[randombully]

This defence bro gives great overview of current and near future ships( Including Nilgiris and all ) and their missile counts, in addition the pics are also good


View: https://x.com/wartrophy_414/status/1918893490001281511

There is also an overview of the PN this way


View: https://x.com/wartrophy_414/status/1917791201677435047

Their latest Cheeni-maal frigates have only 4x supersonic Ashm per ship
Tughril is their only ship class which carries these supersonic ashms from Cheeni.

Another list, comprising of no. of surface to air missiles( short, medium, long) and no. Of ASHM( supersonic, subsonic, all types) of "surface ships" of various navies.
Again, this focuses purely on numbers, so don't dig too deep, just for general gist.

Air defense missiles.

1 United States ~6,500–7,000 (SM-2/3/6, ESSM)

2 China ~3,000–3,500 (HHQ-9, HHQ-16, etc.)

3 Japan ~2,500–3,000 (SM-2/3/6)

4 South Korea ~1,200–1,400 (SM-2, KM-SAM, etc.)

5 India ~1,140 (Barak-8, MR-SAM, VL-SRSAM)

6 France ~600–700 (Aster-15/30, VL-MICA)

7 UK ~500–600 (Aster-15/30, Sea Ceptor)

8 Australia ~400–500 (SM-2/6, ESSM)

9 Germany ~400 (SM-2, ESSM)

10 Italy ~350–400 (Aster-15/30)





ASHM numbers.

1 China ~1,000–1,200 (YJ-18, YJ-12, YJ-83)

2 United States ~600–800 (Harpoon, NSM, LRASM, some Tomahawk in AShM config, USN mainly rely on fighter jet launched ASHM missiles)


3 Russia ~500–600 (P-800 Oniks, Kalibr, Kh-35)


4 India ~376 (BrahMos, Kh-35, Klub)


5 Japan ~300–400 (Type 90, Type 12, Harpoon)


6 South Korea ~300–350 (Haeseong)


7 France ~200 (Exocet MM40)


8 UK ~160 (Harpoon, NSM replacing)


9 Australia ~150 (Harpoon, NSM)


10 Brazil or Turkey ~100 (Atmaca, MANSUP, Harpoon)



This, list also gives unique conclusions if you know how to look.

For example.
Like in AAW list, you won't find russian navy in top 10, but you will in ashm list at no. 3, but their actual ashm count Is lot higher because submarines aren't included in this list, and russian navy Is a submarine heavy forces.

 

[marliii]

This defence bro gives great overview of current and near future ships( Including Nilgiris and all ) and their missile counts, in addition the pics are also good


View: https://x.com/wartrophy_414/status/1918893490001281511



There is also an overview of the PN this way


View: https://x.com/wartrophy_414/status/1917791201677435047

Their latest Cheeni-maal frigates have only 4x supersonic Ashm per ship
Tughril is their only ship class which carries these supersonic ashms from Cheeni.

If i was a paksitani planner i would have stopped giving money to the pak navy a long time ago. Their best bet against IN is asymmetric warfare using missile boats and sea drones. They can build up all the surface fleet and induct as many subs they want but geography is bitch to them and all the surface ships will go down within the first strike and without aircover INs anti sub planes will just take their time hunting PN subs for the rest of the war.But alas pakis cant let go of their ego.

 

[shade2]

Huh... even the Pakistanis know that these are only for show, and once the bullets start flying, they won't last more than an hour into the fight.

Uniformed & whiskey swilling class Yes,

Salwar wearing and grass eating class No.

If i was a paksitani planner i would have stopped giving money to the pak navy a long time ago. Their best bet against IN is asymmetric warfare using missile boats and sea drones. They can build up all the surface fleet and induct as many subs they want but geography is bitch to them and all the surface ships will go down within the first strike and without aircover INs anti sub planes will just take their time hunting PN subs for the rest of the war.But alas pakis cant let go of their ego.

Just like Eran accepted the defeat of their conventional capabilities like an Air Force would forever be in the gutter because of sanctions and left it at that, and missile-maxxxed and jihadi-maxxxed under the assumption that because of those Israel would never threaten them.

Similarly the PA Jernails have assumed that Karachi/Ormara/Gwadar won't be attacked because they will do sem2sem at Mumbai and the Jamnagar refineries, and the kaffir baniya is afraid, so therefore there is no need to be serious in the matter of Naval defence, Submarines are only for their domestic audience to kang over just like J-35 stealth jets.

Israel shattered Iran's assumptions, we have shattered their earlier assumption about our retaliatory strikes not hitting Punjab, but the one over Karachi and coast still remains.

Inshallah woh bhi hoga.