Indian Small Arms and Weapons

[Tactical Doge]

Obviously me

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Just kidding...his name is C.J. Varghese. Studies in hecking Cranfield and already has 6 patents ranging everything from a freaking auto-loader for 84mm CGRL to Active Protection System for tanks.
That guy's one of the primary source of my daily ehsaas-e-kamtari

Varghese?
(Always a mallu.........sigh.....)

 

[KAB7777]

Is there someone who will be bothered to write an academic paper on small arms in India?

SSS Defence started their journey with showcasing MDT Technology's rifles as their own, then the AK based P-72 and finally the M4 as M-72. ASTR guy came into limelight because of that SCAR ripoff and then came the SIG Sauer P320 in the form of Atal. And despite literally copying these are the "respected" people in my view as everyone else is just doing straight ScrewdriverGiri; from Jindal to PLR to Reliance to what not. How could you even think that someone would come up with a concept of any groundbreaking weapon here in India?

In past half a decade or so I've come across just one guy, JUST ONE who's doing something that really deserves to be called research or innovation.

“Hey Aditya, one more clarification. I was sent this. This member of your forum has got a few things wrong
- “MDT tactical rifle as their own” - MDT doesn’t make its own rifles. They do make stocks, chassis, accessories. And I think he may have assumed so since the first version of our weapon had a skeletal buttstock on our chassis. We received an email from MDT some 4 years back asking for details. Apparently, they received complaints from some anonymous guys in India. Anyway, all details were supplied and they came back clearing us and saying they’d like to work with us as a supplier of accessories. Yes, we did test out their magazines but don’t use them.
- AK based P72: Surely right but there are differences in design on each part. Now there are 1000’s of AK clones. The P72 is not a clone.
- M4 as M72: nope. M72 is a short stroke piston based system

I don’t question his knowledge of firearms. Am just correcting some misconceptions. Your forum can always ask us queries and we’ll be happy to answer.”

-Viv Krishnan.

 

[Ayan Barat]

“Hey Aditya, one more clarification. I was sent this. This member of your forum has got a few things wrong
- “MDT tactical rifle as their own” - MDT doesn’t make its own rifles. They do make stocks, chassis, accessories. And I think he may have assumed so since the first version of our weapon had a skeletal buttstock on our chassis. We received an email from MDT some 4 years back asking for details. Apparently, they received complaints from some anonymous guys in India. Anyway, all details were supplied and they came back clearing us and saying they’d like to work with us as a supplier of accessories. Yes, we did test out their magazines but don’t use them.
- AK based P72: Surely right but there are differences in design on each part. Now there are 1000’s of AK clones. The P72 is not a clone.
- M4 as M72: nope. M72 is a short stroke piston based system

I don’t question his knowledge of firearms. Am just correcting some misconceptions. Your forum can always ask us queries and we’ll be happy to answer.”

-Viv Krishnan.

कर लेंगे किसी रोज़ हम भी अपनी बात...पर अपनी शर्तों पे

 

[VictorDelta4]

View: https://x.com/kishanchand_89/status/1853300285504094670

 

[Red_dot]

View: https://x.com/Viv_Krishnan/status/1851907081369944449?t=eiAQkHH-bumupTXJ6Ed3Ww&s=19

@0:27 The left side charging handle of P-72 which I assumed would be a non reciprocating one but turns out it is reciprocating. Unusual choice.

 

[VictorDelta4]

 

[Noob]

View: https://x.com/manishindiatv/status/1853814173064671668?t=y57rDuyENc_AFT3ah7N7qQ&s=19

 

[IWIarad11]

Can anyone tell which unit got asmi? Also noob question but 1000+ machine pistols for a 600 member unit?

 

[Noob]

Can anyone tell which unit got asmi? Also noob question but 1000+ machine pistols for a 600 member unit?

Are I heard 2 para units put out the tender not 1 but idk what's what anymore as for unit it was somewhere in northern command when the tender was out

 

[IWIarad11]

Are I heard 2 para units put out the tender not 1 but idk what's what anymore as for unit it was somewhere in northern command when the tender was out

Just saw a tweet that same unit will get 500ish - Jindal/Tauras rejected.

Entire req is for 5K MPs

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Either I'm too sleepy or that's a chrome plated AK

 

[Ayan Barat]

Either I'm too sleepy or that's a chrome plated AK
View attachment 14266

Or may be someone just decided to "chrome plate" it by scratching off the low quality enamel paint

You can still see some traces of black here and there

Also you should probably go to sleep

 

[Noob]

Just saw a tweet that same unit will get 500ish - Jindal/Tauras rejected.

Entire req is for 5K MPs

Then it's the same competition as before which Asmii won that was for one unit and their was another for another unit released at the same time which Asmii lost to Taurus so seems like they couldn't fullfill the request or something happened and Asmii got it as it was L2

 

[spindrift]

We need to get this for our boys engaged in CI Ops.

 

[Noob]

Astr Defence Phantom in .32

 

[samsaptaka]

Then it's the same competition as before which Asmii won that was for one unit and their was another for another unit released at the same time which Asmii lost to Taurus so seems like they couldn't fullfill the request or something happened and Asmii got it as it was L2

Pathetic! Why can't this be standardised and inducted all across IA as a PDW or close range weapon instead of this single unit tender shit ? Like I said ham handed induction, compared to the 72000 SiG order ! But we should not question Divine IA procurement policy should we ?

 

[marliii]

View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1854069972080656892?t=5af2DyLuAyOqTYmuhiuZMg&s=19

 

[Baseplate]

View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1854069972080656892?t=5af2DyLuAyOqTYmuhiuZMg&s=19

soon they will sell Sig Mcx/Mpx . difficult time for juice lobby

 

[username unkown]

soon they will sell Sig Mcx/Mpx . difficult time for juice lobby

I wish we would have seen more indian weapons and optics but as that is not happening at and won't happen atleast i hope sig also sells thier lpvo and rds with magnifier

 

[Baseplate]

I wish we would have seen more indian weapons and optics but as that is not happening at and won't happen atleast i hope sig also sells thier lpvo and rds with magnifier

Simple if they want to survive do what MKU does : don't give 2 flying fucks about Indian Military (coz they won't lol) [ you can try a bit for police and crpf ] , focus full on ASEAN , Middle east and Latin America

if it gets big maybe they will make it here ,
Everyone is trying to move their supply chains from China .