Indian Small Arms and Weapons

[Ayan Barat]

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Leaderboard of the AIP Standalone Sniper Firing Competition-2025.

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Tournament details of Male leaderboard AIP Standalone Sniper Firing Competition-2025 organized by CENTRAL RESERVE POLICE FORCE

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1st - NSG with Sabre
2nd - Force One with M107
3rd - Rajasthan (most probably) QRT with OFB's sniper rifle!!!
This thing's getting even more weird with each new bit of information

By the way, someone should check on our Tam Bros asap. Poor guys are shooting with an accuracy of 1 MoA Hour-of-Angle

Really sad to see CISF, RPF and Jharkhand following the age-old strategy of "agar ek bhi question attempt na karo tab bhi kuch rank..."but yeah, good for them. Jharkhand is understandable but CISF too! Bruh, you've a SWAT division

Anyways...

 

[KAB7777]

1st - NSG with Sabre
2nd - Force One with M107
3rd - Rajasthan (most probably) QRT with OFB's sniper rifle!!!
This thing's getting even more weird with each new bit of information

By the way, someone should check on our Tam Bros asap. Poor guys are shooting with an accuracy of 1 MoA Hour-of-Angle

Really sad to see CISF, RPF and Jharkhand following the age-old strategy of "agar ek bhi question attempt na karo tab bhi kuch rank..."but yeah, good for them. Jharkhand is understandable but CISF too! Bruh, you've a SWAT division

Anyways...
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Trusted Source has told me that even Rajasthan Police used an imported platform, will try to dig a little more.

 

[Baseplate]

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Leaderboard of the AIP Standalone Sniper Firing Competition-2025.

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That's a fucking cakewalk

 

[ArjunMK1A]

BSF Trichy

Our own AK by copying Bulgarian M1. CRPF like it, ordered more. Army got scammed by Russians/AWEIL walas for AK203.

 

[Suryavanshi]

India made Sniper rifle trumps American in police commando competition

National Security Guards won the All India Police Commando competition in the sniper category with the Saber.338, the only indigenously designed and manufactured sniper rifle.

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The print has been very buddy buddy with SSS defence. Good thing if they are lobbying for it.

The common janata just needs to know that guns are good enough but sarkar is not interested.

 

[VictorDelta4]

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Tournament details of Male leaderboard AIP Standalone Sniper Firing Competition-2025 organized by CENTRAL RESERVE POLICE FORCE

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Lmao dafuq Tamilnadu?
Jharkhand being the most consistent. Maybe they should stick to bows and arrows!

 

[VictorDelta4]

but CISF too! Bruh, you've a SWAT division

Makes me feel so optimistic about their talent in protecting our installations.

 

[Zoid Raptor]

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Looks like Andhra might've used their anti-naxal Greyhound commandos or their Octopus CT unit. I'm surprised with Telangana though since both Greyhouds & Octopus units were split between both when the states got bifurcated

 

[arjuntank]

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[eastern_bhartiya]

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Jernails think it's 1870s

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

Jernails think it's 1870s

Us army stopped issuing bayonets, because trainee would injury themselves , Brits still had them but they were used with external mounts.

If officers want bayonet for whatever reason it would be better to get someone to make an attachable external bayonet mount.

 

[AbRaj]

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Buddy, just think how ridiculous is this requirement as if some chimpanzees has framed it. A sniper is already failed/dead if it has come that close to the enemy.
There are situations, but that’s why secondary weapon and knife are are for.
No professional army is this age evaluates a sniper rifle based on its ability to mount bayonets. IA is filled with morons at the top. They are now making the decision for the whole organisation now.

 

[Ayan Barat]

Again, things are not this straight...there are always nuances in everything. Asking for a bayonet on a rifle is an extremely wierd idea but even more is name calling people in top leadership without having an iota of understanding on how things work.

> What gun was the Indian Army aware of as a "sniper rifle"? SVD
> How exactly was a SVD issued in its deployment kit? Like this

> What's that small pokie thing near the muzzle? Yup; a bayonet.

I hope folks here now have an idea of from where exactly it's coming.

So it's not like they're pulling out random requirements from their rears or are intentionally putting these out to favour a certain OEM. Nope, the root cause is extremely simple...they don't have the exposure of things happening around them and are stuck in kind of an informational black-box with only outdated knowledge at their disposal to base their future forecast on. So they're still stuck with a feature from 1960s.

A very common thing you'll here in IA, from a Maj in SF to a Sepoy is AK; AK is best rifle, AK is reliable, AK is atom bomb proof, other rifles are girlfriend but AK is wife...so from where exactly are all these coming from? From lack of exposure. The only thing they've used is either an INSAS or an AK or in technical terms; a turd and a polished turd, so it's obvious for them to get conditioned like this. Jawans love AK; yup they do, but only because they've not even heard the names of SCAR/ACR/Grot/Bren let alone using them.

Also the people pointing out that it's dumb because why'd you need a bayonet on a long range rifle...no, it's not dumb because of this. It's always good to have a capability and never need it than to not have one but need it someday. It's dumb because the most important part in a sniper rifle is its barrel and is so sensitive that even the pressure from the handguard can severely degrade its accuracy; hence you always keep hearing the term free-floated. By mounting a bayonet and thrusting the barrel (even just once in maybe training) you can permanently ruin the accuracy. Something similiar had happened with the initial ARs sent to Vietnam where Grunts where using the barrel as a pry bar to open crates and the blame fell on Armalite that there design is inaccurate

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

Again, things are not this straight...there are always nuances in everything. Asking for a bayonet on a rifle is an extremely wierd idea but even more is name calling people in top leadership without having an iota of understanding on how things work.

> What gun was the Indian Army aware of as a "sniper rifle"? SVD
> How exactly was a SVD issued in its deployment kit? Like this
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> What's that small pokie thing near the muzzle? Yup; a bayonet.

I hope folks here now have an idea of from where exactly it's coming.

So it's not like they're pulling out random requirements from their rears or are intentionally putting these out to favour a certain OEM. Nope, the root cause is extremely simple...they don't have the exposure of things happening around them and are stuck in kind of an informational black-box with only outdated knowledge at their disposal to base their future forecast on. So they're still stuck with a feature from 1960s.

A very common thing you'll here in IA, from a Maj in SF to a Sepoy is AK; AK is best rifle, AK is reliable, AK is atom bomb proof, other rifles are girlfriend but AK is wife...so from where exactly are all these coming from? From lack of exposure. The only thing they've used is either an INSAS or an AK or in technical terms; a turd and a polished turd, so it's obvious for them to get conditioned like this. Jawans love AK; yup they do, but only because they've not even heard the names of SCAR/ACR/Grot/Bren let alone using them.

Also the people pointing out that it's dumb because why'd you need a bayonet on a long range rifle...no, it's not dumb because of this. It's always good to have a capability and never need it than to not have one but need it someday. It's dumb because the most important part in a sniper rifle is its barrel and is so sensitive that even the pressure from the handguard can severely degrade its accuracy; hence you always keep hearing the term free-floated. By mounting a bayonet and thrusting the barrel (even just once in maybe training) you can permanently ruin the accuracy. Something similiar had happened with the initial ARs sent to Vietnam where Grunts where using the barrel as a pry bar to open crates and the blame fell on Armalite that there design is inaccurate

How do our top leadership not have enough exposure, they meet with leadership of other militaries right ? or is it like those idiots that used claim that armored personnel carriers would be useless in J&K cause bad roads or some shit until modi govt improved them. I suspect second , where babus do have the exposure , but still have these requirements due to their own Ego .

you would find these wannabe faujis all time in twitter fb insta, whenever someone would criticize state of our infantry their first response would be you're against army, when that trick stopped working they started ridiculing others as PUBG players. then there are caste kangers who would say stuff "x caste regiment were descendent of warriors from y years ago" thus, are more accurate with iron sights than someone with modern optics.

 

[Ayan Barat]

you would find these wannabe faujis all time in twitter fb insta...

Again; an online account who's not brave enough to use their real name are not a representation of Army where we've people with balls huge enough to not just engage Patton tanks with a Jonga mounted RCL but also take multiple of those out.

The only reason these accounts are what they're today is not their delusional and often remote association with Army but rather civilians who like to flock around them despite getting humiliated everytime with Bloody Civilian jibes. People actually in uniform won't even look at these wannabies while they'll keep giggling around officers like preteens doing "Yes Sir" to get in their good books. So the best thing one can do with these are just ignore them into obscurity.

I think once the sniper runs out of bullet. He will throw the knife to hit the target in 800m. Obiviously he ate the powerful Indian carrot to gain night vision powers.

Again, everyone is free to have their own perspective of how they perceive things. For you it's outrage and for me it's identifying the root cause. End of the day we both can't do anything to rectify it.

 

[KAB7777]

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The NSG team who took part in the recent All India Police Standalone Sniper Competition and emerged Victorious with their SSSD SABER .338 Lapua Magnum Sniper Rifle.

 

[johny_baba]

Ayan is right that it's basically lack of exposure to modern platforms, but i also think it's mixed with insistence of keeping the basic training of bayonet charge for all in mind - and in our generation it may seem ridiculous, but think about an army that's used / been using acurised (hopefully) rifles as their makeshift sniper or DMR FOR SQUAD LEVEL MARKSMEN - CUM - SNIPERS

> Lee Enfield .303 British = has had bayonet
> Ishapore 2A in .308/7.62x51mm NATO = has had bayonet
> 1A SLR in .308/7.62x51mm NATO = has bayonet
> Dragunov in 7.62x54mmR = has bayonet

and if you count this, even M1903 Sprinfields in .30-06 that we got for ITPB and such border units, has had bayonet

then, INSAS with scope used as makeshift DMR has bayonet, and nowadays, SIG-716I with scope...has bayonet too

and if you look at non-sniping infantry weapons of the Indian Army;
> Sterling 9mm "carbine" has had bayonet
> Kalashnikovs of all kinds have bayonets
> TAVOR HAS BAYONET
> although induction is limited, JVPC has bayonet
you can see if it goes at squad level, they insist on bayonet for SHTF purposes, and this GSQR, intentionally or unintentionally insisted on following this 'tradition', however idiotic it would seem...

when you look at an army like ours that's stingy to make optics a standard issue thing, their insistence on at least giving a knife to soldiers should be applauded at least ;
but my recommendation is they move on to issuing pistols as standard issue to soldiers, and to marksmen, a compact SMG or PDWish thing like Asmi would suffice - baki aajkal picatiny rails ke jamane me log toh pistols par bhi bayonet laga dete hai lol


Oh, and it's not only us who're insistent on bayonets, look at what french did with their free-floating barrel HK416F...

so if what they're seeking as Dragunov replacement is a squad level semi-auto marksman rifle in 7.62x51mm NATO, then bayonet is okay-ish ask, they can perhaps go for handguards-mounted bayonet like how we got it done on SIG-716i
but yes, for modern purpose-build bolt action rifles it's an outlandish thing to ask for.