Indo-China Border & LAC


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This here is a very interesting traveling vlog about the Ziro valley in Arunachal Pradesh & the Apatani tribe inhabiting it . Apparently until the 1980s there were no churches there but now they're 50% Christian like the rest of AP.

You'd think the neighbouring states may have done it with the Nagas being prime suspects as after all the state borders AP besides having a Naga population. That's true but the others will suprise & shock you.

Apart from the Nagas , the Mizos have been proselytising there along with the , hold your breath , Catholics from Gerala with their ubiquitous nuns - mariamkutty & rosykutty.

What I can't understand for the love of me apart from the above is how on earth can the GoI permit foreigners in this case a Belgian national from visiting such a sensitive spot a few kms away from the Chinese border.

Does the IA & the Home Ministry think only the Chinese can come spying there whom they've banned for obvious reasons but the Chinese can't contract foreigners in this case Europeans or other nationals from conducting this same activity on their behalf ?

What about the West especially the US ? Are their intentions towards us & this particular region benign that we permit such activities ?
 

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This here is a very interesting traveling vlog about the Ziro valley in Arunachal Pradesh & the Apatani tribe inhabiting it . Apparently until the 1980s there were no churches there but now they're 50% Christian like the rest of AP.

You'd think the neighbouring states may have done it with the Nagas being prime suspects as after all the state borders AP besides having a Naga population. That's true but the others will suprise & shock you.

Apart from the Nagas , the Mizos have been proselytising there along with the , hold your breath , Catholics from Gerala with their ubiquitous nuns - mariamkutty & rosykutty.

What I can't understand for the love of me apart from the above is how on earth can the GoI permit foreigners in this case a Belgian national from visiting such a sensitive spot a few kms away from the Chinese border.

Does the IA & the Home Ministry think only the Chinese can come spying there whom they've banned for obvious reasons but the Chinese can't contract foreigners in this case Europeans or other nationals from conducting this same activity on their behalf ?

What about the West especially the US ? Are their intentions towards us & this particular region benign that we permit such activities ?


Meanwhile Indians need the ILP to go to Arunachal Pradesh now don't we?
CIA/MI6/MSS Gora sahib can come and go as he pleases?
 

View: https://youtu.be/Ggw9w_PxGXE?si=zfdWI6FSftgHVMsB

This here is a very interesting traveling vlog about the Ziro valley in Arunachal Pradesh & the Apatani tribe inhabiting it . Apparently until the 1980s there were no churches there but now they're 50% Christian like the rest of AP.

You'd think the neighbouring states may have done it with the Nagas being prime suspects as after all the state borders AP besides having a Naga population. That's true but the others will suprise & shock you.

Apart from the Nagas , the Mizos have been proselytising there along with the , hold your breath , Catholics from Gerala with their ubiquitous nuns - mariamkutty & rosykutty.

What I can't understand for the love of me apart from the above is how on earth can the GoI permit foreigners in this case a Belgian national from visiting such a sensitive spot a few kms away from the Chinese border.

Does the IA & the Home Ministry think only the Chinese can come spying there whom they've banned for obvious reasons but the Chinese can't contract foreigners in this case Europeans or other nationals from conducting this same activity on their behalf ?

What about the West especially the US ? Are their intentions towards us & this particular region benign that we permit such activities ?


Sab kuch bhagwan bharose hai.

There is no limit of loopholes in our system.

A well planned & determined chinese attempt along with BD, Myanmar militants, NE insurgents & other internal saboteurs... & North East barring Assam will fall like a deck of cards in <15 days. This plan is already in works and we have enough proof before our eyes... Most of us are drunk with the wine served on "Kartvaya Path" on republic day parade... so we choose to unsee the threat bcoz we grossly overestimate ours and underestimate theirs capability and will.
 

View: https://youtu.be/Ggw9w_PxGXE?si=zfdWI6FSftgHVMsB

This here is a very interesting traveling vlog about the Ziro valley in Arunachal Pradesh & the Apatani tribe inhabiting it . Apparently until the 1980s there were no churches there but now they're 50% Christian like the rest of AP.

You'd think the neighbouring states may have done it with the Nagas being prime suspects as after all the state borders AP besides having a Naga population. That's true but the others will suprise & shock you.

Apart from the Nagas , the Mizos have been proselytising there along with the , hold your breath , Catholics from Gerala with their ubiquitous nuns - mariamkutty & rosykutty.

What I can't understand for the love of me apart from the above is how on earth can the GoI permit foreigners in this case a Belgian national from visiting such a sensitive spot a few kms away from the Chinese border.

Does the IA & the Home Ministry think only the Chinese can come spying there whom they've banned for obvious reasons but the Chinese can't contract foreigners in this case Europeans or other nationals from conducting this same activity on their behalf ?

What about the West especially the US ? Are their intentions towards us & this particular region benign that we permit such activities ?


Saar, we are a phull democracy with nothing to hide. Meanwhile, China -

Swarajya Exclusive: China Incubates New Militant Outfit In Arunachal Pradesh To Thwart Mega Dam Projects In The State​


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Why is India Upset About Chinese Dams on the Brahmaputra River?

India has valid concerns over China’s plans to build massive dams on the Brahmaputra River. These include the potential disruption of the river’s natural flow, the destruction of its delicate ecosystem, and the broader geopolitical implications. After retreating from contested areas in Ladakh—where they faced a 50,000-strong, well-equipped Indian Army in mountainous terrain—the Chinese now appear to be picking a new fight with India for the river water.

The new controversy centers on China’s ambitious proposal to dam the Brahmaputra (known as the Tsangpo in Tibet) at the “great bend,” where the river plunges 7,000 feet into the deepest gorge in the world. This project aims to generate an unprecedented amount of electricity, but the Chinese claims rest on questionable assumptions.

The Brahmaputra in the Indian plains carries an average discharge of 22,000 m3/s, dropping to 4,000–6,000 m3/s during the driest periods. In contrast, the Tsangpo in Tibet carries just 3,500 cubic meters per second in Tibet. While the steep drop at the bend provides potential for hydropower, the region’s seismic instability poses a significant risk. The steep fall is guessed to be 50 to 200 feet per mile in small but multiple falls creating a tremendous force in the water. That force is what salivating the Chinese, although it has been inadequately studied and explored.

Moreover, the area is remote and largely unexplored. The first human expeditions—Westerners, not Chinese—reached parts of this region only as recently as 2001 and 2012. Also, digging a 40-kilometer tunnel to channel water to turbines in such terrain is fraught with uncertainty. Additionally, climate change is already reducing snowmelt feeding Himalayan rivers, which could render the $160 billion investment unsustainable. If the water flow declines, this project could join the ranks of China’s other failing ventures, such as its troubled Belt and Road Initiative.

China’s overconfidence in its engineering prowess, coupled with insufficient consultation with area experts, underscores the risks of this endeavor. While the project may seem like a technological showcase, it is more likely to end in failure, with significant consequences for the region. India, rightfully, sees this as a potential ecological and geopolitical disaster in the making.

Brahmaputra in India and Chinese misadventure

The Brahmaputra enters India’s Arunachal Pradesh as the Siang River. It is then joined by the Dibang, Lohit, and several smaller rivers, forming the mighty Brahmaputra with a discharge exceeding 45,000 m3/s during the rainy season. From there, it flows south into Bangladesh, where it is called the Jamuna. While the river often brings devastating floods during the rainy season, it also provides sustenance to millions in Assam and Bangladesh.

The real danger of China’s dam-building lies in the potential for the controlled or uncontrolled release of massive amounts of water from the proposed dam. This could occur during emergencies or even as an act of deliberate mischief, both of which are serious possibilities. Recognizing this, India must take proactive measures, as protests and diplomatic efforts are unlikely to deter China.

To safeguard against such threats, India is planning to construct a large dam and catchment lake along the Tsangpo/Siang River in Arunachal Pradesh. This project, estimated to cost $4–6 billion, will not only help mitigate the risk of sudden water releases but also generate significant hydroelectric power as an added benefit.

India is taking decisive steps to prepare for any potential Chinese misadventure, ensuring both its security and energy needs are met effectively

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Why is India Upset About Chinese Dams on the Brahmaputra River?

India has valid concerns over China’s plans to build massive dams on the Brahmaputra River. These include the potential disruption of the river’s natural flow, the destruction of its delicate ecosystem, and the broader geopolitical implications. After retreating from contested areas in Ladakh—where they faced a 50,000-strong, well-equipped Indian Army in mountainous terrain—the Chinese now appear to be picking a new fight with India for the river water.

The new controversy centers on China’s ambitious proposal to dam the Brahmaputra (known as the Tsangpo in Tibet) at the “great bend,” where the river plunges 7,000 feet into the deepest gorge in the world. This project aims to generate an unprecedented amount of electricity, but the Chinese claims rest on questionable assumptions.

The Brahmaputra in the Indian plains carries an average discharge of 22,000 m3/s, dropping to 4,000–6,000 m3/s during the driest periods. In contrast, the Tsangpo in Tibet carries just 3,500 cubic meters per second in Tibet. While the steep drop at the bend provides potential for hydropower, the region’s seismic instability poses a significant risk. The steep fall is guessed to be 50 to 200 feet per mile in small but multiple falls creating a tremendous force in the water. That force is what salivating the Chinese, although it has been inadequately studied and explored.

Moreover, the area is remote and largely unexplored. The first human expeditions—Westerners, not Chinese—reached parts of this region only as recently as 2001 and 2012. Also, digging a 40-kilometer tunnel to channel water to turbines in such terrain is fraught with uncertainty. Additionally, climate change is already reducing snowmelt feeding Himalayan rivers, which could render the $160 billion investment unsustainable. If the water flow declines, this project could join the ranks of China’s other failing ventures, such as its troubled Belt and Road Initiative.

China’s overconfidence in its engineering prowess, coupled with insufficient consultation with area experts, underscores the risks of this endeavor. While the project may seem like a technological showcase, it is more likely to end in failure, with significant consequences for the region. India, rightfully, sees this as a potential ecological and geopolitical disaster in the making.

Brahmaputra in India and Chinese misadventure

The Brahmaputra enters India’s Arunachal Pradesh as the Siang River. It is then joined by the Dibang, Lohit, and several smaller rivers, forming the mighty Brahmaputra with a discharge exceeding 45,000 m3/s during the rainy season. From there, it flows south into Bangladesh, where it is called the Jamuna. While the river often brings devastating floods during the rainy season, it also provides sustenance to millions in Assam and Bangladesh.

The real danger of China’s dam-building lies in the potential for the controlled or uncontrolled release of massive amounts of water from the proposed dam. This could occur during emergencies or even as an act of deliberate mischief, both of which are serious possibilities. Recognizing this, India must take proactive measures, as protests and diplomatic efforts are unlikely to deter China.

To safeguard against such threats, India is planning to construct a large dam and catchment lake along the Tsangpo/Siang River in Arunachal Pradesh. This project, estimated to cost $4–6 billion, will not only help mitigate the risk of sudden water releases but also generate significant hydroelectric power as an added benefit.

India is taking decisive steps to prepare for any potential Chinese misadventure, ensuring both its security and energy needs are met effectively

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Will china release water from dam at regular intervals or some part of water will flow down to india continuously.?
 
Will china release water from dam at regular intervals or some part of water will flow down to india continuously.?
If you believe China, what they say then……. it is a run of the river dam. There is no place to build a large catchment area hence, some amount of water will be stored behind the dam and it will feed the turbines. Hence once their little lake gets filled up behind the dam then, they have no choice but to let the water go thru its normal channel continuously.
 
The investment in this dam is more than a year's military expenditure,

It is investors who are most concerned about dam safety
I'm sure they are but unless the Chinese have discovered the way to build the ultimate earthquake proof structures , the dam is still in danger of being affected by an earthquake & also of triggering one given its size & the fact that it's built on one of the world's most active seismic fault lines.
 
I'm sure they are but unless the Chinese have discovered the way to build the ultimate earthquake proof structures , the dam is still in danger of being affected by an earthquake & also of triggering one given its size & the fact that it's built on one of the world's most active seismic fault lines.

After the Wenchuan earthquake, the National Development and Reform Commission issued a document requiring that important dam projects not only be designed and verified according to a flood protection standard of once in five thousand years but also that both completed and ongoing key dam projects be verified according to "extreme earthquakes." This means ensuring that severe secondary disasters caused by dam failure do not occur downstream during an extreme earthquake. From what I understand, the relevant hydropower departments have seriously implemented these requirements.

Regarding extreme earthquakes, there is no very clear international definition. Generally speaking, it refers to determining the potential extreme earthquakes based on the specific seismic geological conditions of the dam site. Currently, this is based on a standard of once in ten thousand years, meaning that, probabilistically, such a major earthquake could occur only once in ten thousand years. Our major dam projects must be verified according to this standard. This is a very strict requirement.

Chen Houqun, Academician of the Chinese Academy of Engineering

2011-05-24​

 
Meanwhile Indians need the ILP to go to Arunachal Pradesh now don't we?
CIA/MI6/MSS Gora sahib can come and go as he pleases?

Not now, we always needed ILP. Its not something unique to Arunachal Pradesh most of hill states have such weird laws to protect their "culture".

And no, such ILPs stops infiltration of foreign agents and tracks them.

@shade2 your way of talking is too blackpilled and is trolling, it elicits innocent members to develop a negative viewpoint of things where none exists.

Take this as a warning.
 
WTF !!!!!!! China has grabbed our 38000 sqm of land and now they have declared it as counties....Yeh kya naya jhumla hai Benchod.


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Yeh kya nya chal raha hai??

Chill, nothing has changed on ground. They just created a new county out of already previous one, something like how we broke down J&K in Jammu and Ladakh.

Sab kuch bhagwan bharose hai.

There is no limit of loopholes in our system.

A well planned & determined chinese attempt along with BD, Myanmar militants, NE insurgents & other internal saboteurs... & North East barring Assam will fall like a deck of cards in <15 days. This plan is already in works and we have enough proof before our eyes... Most of us are drunk with the wine served on "Kartvaya Path" on republic day parade... so we choose to unsee the threat bcoz we grossly overestimate ours and underestimate theirs capability and will.

NE & Assam will fall in < 15 days ? Justify your response or I will penalise you for trolling.

The only reason Manipur is boiling is because central forces are not excercising any powers (its a CIA trap).

Saar, we are a phull democracy with nothing to hide. Meanwhile, China -

Swarajya Exclusive: China Incubates New Militant Outfit In Arunachal Pradesh To Thwart Mega Dam Projects In The State​


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Every tom, dick and harry with gun can spin up a militant outfit, we will see once they take action.
 
The only reason Manipur is boiling is because central forces are not excercising any powers (its a CIA trap).
Well Manipur issue will get resolve.. there is no much problem in that.

Chill, nothing has changed on ground. They just created a new county out of already previous one, something like how we broke down J&K in Jammu and Ladakh.
I know nothing change on ground, i mean to ask what is "new country" means....its absoluty is china..whats new in this.
 

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