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They will stop buying oil from Russia though when the farman actually comes.

Euros will also stop buying refined oil and products from the Jamnagar refinery to further butress the US Farman.

Not exactly a problem but this is a concerning trend where they bow to everything the US asks them to.
Soon the US demands will be more expansive.
I don't think India will stop buying Russian oil.. But, I am sure it will fall drastically to below 1 million bpd, from the current 2 billion bpd .
EU is not denuding itself of practically all Patriot batteries and sending them to Ukraine, when that doesn't stop Russia in 6 months, westoids will be more pissed and come after Indian and Chinese trade with Russia..
 
I don't think India will stop buying Russian oil.. But, I am sure it will fall drastically to below 1 million bpd, from the current 2 billion bpd .
EU is not denuding itself of practically all Patriot batteries and sending them to Ukraine, when that doesn't stop Russia in 6 months, westoids will be more pissed and come after Indian and Chinese trade with Russia..

They are never coming after the 10 foot Chings.
They bully us out of trade and relations with Russia and Putin will sell his country to the Chings just to get enough support to prevail in Ukraine.

There is no stopping Russia unless NATO wages a proper invasion and prevails or they regime change Putin somehow.
 

Clearly. They knew what they are doing. Pretend to be stranded world sailors when caught with the might of the State Department behind them.
I come from a place where any western presence is extremely suspicious; and this coming from Nicobar island, tingles my spidey-sense a lot more.
 

View: https://x.com/saurabhtodi/status/1943671497865805936

They are behaving more tyrannically today then they used to right after the Soviet collapse and Piss Divided up until say ~2014.

And today we are closer to a multi polar world than previously, only their euro goras remain their vassals, Gulf Arabs do their own sht, Turkey does it's own, SEAsian countries do mujra for China, Russia openly opposes them and so does Iran.

Go through Bruno Macaes timeline.. He says that it has been the case of practically Every empire in relative decline.. that use of force or threat of use of force increases.. Empires are the most liberal at their peak, when there is no challenge to their powers..
 

View: https://x.com/suryakane/status/1946996577588933053

Bro explains Strategic Autonomy in tweet

TLDR is

BUILD DOMESTIC MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX AND MASS PRODUCE SHT


To do that, two things must happen:

  1. The policy of non-interventionism must be repealed
  2. Our actions must trigger punitive defence sector related sanctions from the United States
As bitter as I sound, the only way HAL, DRDO, ADA, GTRE and others will wake up would be when 200 out of 600 frontline fighter jets are grounded due to sanctions on engines and parts.

Until that happens, India is not going to become strategically autonomous.
 
To do that, two things must happen:

  1. The policy of non-interventionism must be repealed
  2. Our actions must trigger punitive defence sector related sanctions from the United States
As bitter as I sound, the only way HAL, DRDO, ADA, GTRE and others will wake up would be when 200 out of 600 frontline fighter jets are grounded due to sanctions on engines and parts.

Until that happens, India is not going to become strategically autonomous.
You actually think solving the aero engine problem will automatically confer strategic autonomy on India ? In that case why's France no great friend or admirer of the Anglo dominated World Order not strategically autonomous irrespective how it postures .
 
To do that, two things must happen:

  1. The policy of non-interventionism must be repealed
  2. Our actions must trigger punitive defence sector related sanctions from the United States
As bitter as I sound, the only way HAL, DRDO, ADA, GTRE and others will wake up would be when 200 out of 600 frontline fighter jets are grounded due to sanctions on engines and parts.

Until that happens, India is not going to become strategically autonomous.

Most based blessing-in-disguise self-goal.
hundreds of dalals will perish
 
"In the days following his June 18 meeting with Munir, people from Modi's office and India's national security adviser's office made separate calls to their U.S. counterparts to register a protest, two of the officials said. The protest has not been previously reported.
"We have communicated to the U.S. our position on cross-border terrorism, which is a red line for us," said a senior Indian official. "These are difficult times ... Trump's inability to understand our concerns does create some wrinkle in ties," he added, seeking anonymity due to the sensitivity of the matter."
 

>majority rice eating nation
>promises to import tons of wheat
:bplease: :bplease: :bplease: :bplease: :bplease: :bplease: :bplease: :bplease: :bplease:

Even the figleaf excuses the Deep State makes to save their slave from Trump's tareefs make no sense.
 
You actually think solving the aero engine problem will automatically confer strategic autonomy on India ? In that case why's France no great friend or admirer of the Anglo dominated World Order not strategically autonomous irrespective how it postures .

The effort and cash to solve it will entail a devotion to strategic autonomy saar.

Besides the strategic autonomy is a spectrum, you have France on one end because of economical and industrial pressures cannot openly _|_ to the US, which is why you have them kanging on "muh fellow Europeans" now, most of the countries in EU are US vassals after all, an EU under French leadership ofc is the only proper expression of strategic autonomy

However they push back like they did when US wanted to invade Eye-rack to get Saddam, they are also willing to sell to naaan-aligned countries like ours today and in the past also.

After these guys you have Israel for the ((( obvious reasons ))) can push back even harder against the US if they wish to.

At the end of this spectrum you have the 10 foot Chinaman who has economic leverage on the W*st and a fully domestic military industrial supply chain.

Our goal should be to reach the China man's gold standard atleast in terms of MIC

We still face a hard block to strategic autonomy in the form of energy impoorts, coal, oil, gas what have you.
 
The effort and cash to solve it will entail a devotion to strategic autonomy saar.

That's only one aspect of it ,the other being the current international geo political environment among several other such parameters to be considered.
Besides the strategic autonomy is a spectrum, you have France on one end because of economical and industrial pressures cannot openly _|_ to the US, which is why you have them kanging on "muh fellow Europeans" now, most of the countries in EU are US vassals after all, an EU under French leadership ofc is the only proper expression of strategic autonomy

France also had a neo colonial empire in Africa which not many know about or if they did , didn't factor it into their calculations , which in turn enabled the former to maintain a certain degree of strategic autonomy.

The idea was to leverage this neo colonial empire till they got the rest of Europe to emerge as an independent sphere of interest under France's leadership obviously , in a sort of pan European empire a la Napoleon Bonaparte II as it were .

Alas , growing frustration with outsized French influence in their internal affairs by the African nations comprising their neo colonial empire & Russia smarting from the betrayal by the Europeans resulting in the war in Ukraine paying back France by stirring unrest in their neo colonial empire apart from prosecuting the war Ukraine ensures neither exists.
However they push back like they did when US wanted to invade Eye-rack to get Saddam, they are also willing to sell to naaan-aligned countries like ours today and in the past also.
Germany refused to participate too. Didn't seem as if Germany was emerging as an independent pole then.
After these guys you have Israel for the ((( obvious reasons ))) can push back even harder against the US if they wish to.
This cosy relationship isn't going to continue for long. This is probably the last generation of Americans who'd be giving the Zionists a free pass.
At the end of this spectrum you have the 10 foot Chinaman who has economic leverage on the W*st and a fully domestic military industrial supply chain.

Our goal should be to reach the China man's gold standard atleast in terms of MIC
The west isn't going to commit the same error twice. They made a grave mistake possibly a fatal one with China. Do you think they're stupid enough to repeat it ?
We still face a hard block to strategic autonomy in the form of energy impoorts, coal, oil, gas what have you.
Oil & gas will cease being premier commodities within a decade or two. It's high tech , finance & market access we're after . The kind which got China to where it is except as I pointed out before the West isn't going to make the same mistake twice.

How we navigate this while keeping our eye on our goals without compromising our interests is what will determine where we land up in a decade or two. So far I'd venture we haven't done too badly at all.

In fact in an interview S.S.Menon ex FS & NSA gave some time back he identified only nations which have profited the most from globalisation. India & the other country to have done even better than us is China.

However IMO China's bitten off much more than they can chew. They've outsized ambitions too & lack the strategic patience to wait it out. Result they've literally made enemies of all their neighbours , they've no friends & the ones they have are more of international liabilities & embarassments.

Sort of surprising a nation with a 3000+ year old history of strategic culture could get things so wrong.
 
Result they've literally made enemies of all their neighbours , they've no friends & the ones they have are more of international liabilities & embarassments.

Sort of surprising a nation with a 3000+ year old history of strategic culture could get things so wrong.

It is very ironic considering their goal is to not be surrounded.
Even Russia is their "ally" now because of Western pressure.

They were behaving like a superpower in the immediate neighborhood without actually becoming one, like a ching chong Monroe doctrine of sorts, but their antics are driving random countries into the Western embrace when they all normally wanted to not take sides and mind their own business
 

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