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Khalistan ‘flag’ case: US says cannot share Pannun bank details​


The case pertains to the hoisting of the so-called Khalistan flag atop the District Administration Complex in Moga in Punjab in 2020, allegedly at the behest of Pannun.​



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Clamp down HARD on local collaborators, proxies & media apparatchiks.
 
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Khalistan ‘flag’ case: US says cannot share Pannun bank details​


The case pertains to the hoisting of the so-called Khalistan flag atop the District Administration Complex in Moga in Punjab in 2020, allegedly at the behest of Pannun.​



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Clamp down HARD on local collaborators, proxies & media apparatchiks.

If US is not willing to cooperate with Indian on Pannun then why the fuck should India cooperate with US with regards to alleged RAW involvement in khalistani deaths in Canada or in US?
 
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CCP saw 8% decline where as India saw 38%.

I hope we have enough good colleges/universities in future so that this money is spend here. Beside bright spark talents need to be retained.
Yes and with the hundreds of student desths in North America, at least some thinking should be done. If they need to get a degeee from outside Inria, there are other options, in Europe and Australia.
 

US-backed Khalistani leader terrorist Gurpatwant Singh Pannun threatens Russia for supporting India, Russian media mocks him by calling him ‘embarrassing CIA proxy’​


Pannun alleged that Russian agencies have started sharing intelligence and logistics with the Modi regime about pro-Khalistan Sikh activism in the North America and the EU.


View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1867866377773895805


View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1867865385652920500

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American agent threatens Russian diplomats in India.

Hope this ***chod has a geiger counter & checks his underwear regularly.
 

US-backed Khalistani leader terrorist Gurpatwant Singh Pannun threatens Russia for supporting India, Russian media mocks him by calling him ‘embarrassing CIA proxy’​


Pannun alleged that Russian agencies have started sharing intelligence and logistics with the Modi regime about pro-Khalistan Sikh activism in the North America and the EU.


View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1867866377773895805


View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1867865385652920500

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American agent threatens Russian diplomats in India.

Hope this ***chod has a geiger counter & checks his underwear regularly.

Is this a joke ? This clown should stay away from all windows & tea .
 

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It is true that India US relations are not the same unidimensional it used to be pre-nuclear deal. However it is true that may not take a long time to go down to those levels if the same state of affairs continue.
@Hari Sud you are very right in staying away from Trump administration as far as possible, there are only downsides in being the friend of America, while being the enemy of America has only upsides, as we see in the case of Russia and China, who have flourished despite their more than a century worth of animosity with USA.
 

US-backed Khalistani leader terrorist Gurpatwant Singh Pannun threatens Russia for supporting India, Russian media mocks him by calling him ‘embarrassing CIA proxy’​


Pannun alleged that Russian agencies have started sharing intelligence and logistics with the Modi regime about pro-Khalistan Sikh activism in the North America and the EU.


View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1867866377773895805


View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1867865385652920500

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American agent threatens Russian diplomats in India.

Hope this ***chod has a geiger counter & checks his underwear regularly.

Well if he pushes his luck soon he will be served special plutonium Tea . Warm curtesy from kremlin
 
Trump’s Few Jobs for the First Month

(This article deals with Foreign Affairs only)

Like it or not, the world is in turmoil, and much of the blame can be placed on President Biden and his administration. It was Biden who set the stage for the Ukraine war. With the U.S. and Russia preoccupied, the Arab world erupted in Gaza, leading to retaliatory strikes by Israel. Then came Iran, a non-Arab state, inserting itself into the Arab-Israeli conflict—a move that nearly cost it its nuclear facilities.

Meanwhile, as the West was entangled in Europe and the Middle East, China sought to expand its influence in the South China Sea. Unable to make significant progress on Taiwan, they turned their focus to the weaker Philippines, aiming to assert control over maritime territories. It was American power that ultimately restrained China from taking decisive action. Yet, these cascading events underline the primary responsibility of the U.S. in fueling global instability.

Why has the past four years seen such widespread chaos? The answer lies within the American “Deep State”—key actors in the U.S. bureaucracy and influence-driven think tanks together with military cum industrial complex which will gain financially. They viewed the President as politically weak and incapable of decisive action, so they pursued their own agendas under the guise of acting in his name. Much of the advice given to Biden pushed for actions that a more independent-minded leader in the Oval Office would likely have rejected. However, a dependent and manipulable President was easily swayed, paving the way for this global unrest.

Why is the return of Trump to the Oval Office and his new cabinet significant? Because it signals a potential end to the influence of the actors who have shaped the current turmoil and ushers in a shift in thinking.

In Ukraine, the war has already claimed countless lives and devastated the country. While the Ukrainian people desperately want peace, their voices are drowned out by the adulation showered on their wartime president. Trump’s first priority should be to end the fighting and bring the warring parties to the negotiating table. If European powers cannot guarantee peace, a skilled mediator must step in. The suffering of Ukrainians, exploited in the name of weakening Russia, must be brought to an end.

The Middle East remains a deeply complex issue, with entrenched conflicts rooted in demands for Palestinian statehood. Gazans and southern Lebanese civilians have endured immense suffering, but a solution is impossible without halting external support. While the Arab world has wealth, it lacks the vision to resolve these crises, often fueling hatred and armed conflict instead. Once the Arabs reach a solution, non-Arab actors like Iran can be excluded. Though Trump’s return has slowed the violence, his firm leadership is needed to keep warmongers at bay.

As for China, the issue lies in the West’s overdependence on Chinese imports, which has allowed China to amass wealth and build a formidable military. However, this military is used more for intimidation than actual conflict. Trump’s plan to tax Chinese imports would curb their economic power and send a clear warning to abandon their territorial ambitions. Unlike others, Trump’s strong stance makes him the right leader to stand up to China.

Elsewhere like Bangladesh or Syria, it is advisable for U.S. to stay out of the conflict. Rather, it should advise outside actors also to stay out.
 
It is true that India US relations are not the same unidimensional it used to be pre-nuclear deal. However it is true that may not take a long time to go down to those levels if the same state of affairs continue.
@Hari Sud you are very right in staying away from Trump administration as far as possible, there are only downsides in being the friend of America, while being the enemy of America has only upsides, as we see in the case of Russia and China, who have flourished despite their more than a century worth of animosity with USA.

This has nothing to do with the status of enemies or friends. It has to do with the concept of respect.
Respect comes from fear and fear comes from the understanding that the other side is willing to take actions. We Indians do not take action and only talk. That's been a major feature for India's foreign policy for decades. While we want to appear good to everyone, we do not understand realpolitik as a country's image. Whatever action we have seen in terms of non-war action, has only come after 2014 that too, in bits and pieces.

The US hates:

1. Iran
2. Russia
3. China
4. Cuba
5. North Korea

But it respects them. The reason? Because these countries walk their talk even if not all of them have the full power to fight back against the US. North Korea sank South Korean submarine and was willing to escalate back before COVID. Yet, it shamelessly takes aid through whatever talks it wants.

Cuba has been defiant of the sanctions and takes every political opportunity to hurt the Americans. They are illegally blockaded by the US Navy for over 50 years and yet, they retaliate in whatever way they can.

Iran has been more bluster when directly confronting US soldiers or naval assets, but it also showed its aggression by capturing the US troops before releasing them. The point is not about attacking the US; it is about sending a message. Iran has shown that more than once that it can and will do whatever it has to oppose the Americans.

China's treatment of the United States has remained consistent since Mao's era. Despite being piss-poor, China was always defiant and treated the US and Europeans as less-than-equals. This is completely opposite to the way we treat the West, as if they are some unattainable gods. China has used every tactic in the playbook - from hacking their military-industrial complex, to stealing whatever they can as they associate USA with their ancestors, the British, French and other Europeans, who wronged China. Each time the Chinese trade more, they are more ruthless and pragmatic with the US than before. That rational and ruthless attitude garners respect.

India is a different story. We never even threaten when disrespected and never follow-through with any tacit threat that we make. That makes us look weak even if we are not. We are seen as harmless. And that doesn't garner any respect internationally. People don't like us - they just think we are these tree-hugging hippies who can't do squat to anyone except Pakistan.

Harmlessness isn't the same as goodness.

It's weak and its pathetic. If India has to get respect, the country has to put in the work.
 
Trump’s Few Jobs for the First Month

(This article deals with Foreign Affairs only)

Like it or not, the world is in turmoil, and much of the blame can be placed on President Biden and his administration. It was Biden who set the stage for the Ukraine war. With the U.S. and Russia preoccupied, the Arab world erupted in Gaza, leading to retaliatory strikes by Israel. Then came Iran, a non-Arab state, inserting itself into the Arab-Israeli conflict—a move that nearly cost it its nuclear facilities.

Meanwhile, as the West was entangled in Europe and the Middle East, China sought to expand its influence in the South China Sea. Unable to make significant progress on Taiwan, they turned their focus to the weaker Philippines, aiming to assert control over maritime territories. It was American power that ultimately restrained China from taking decisive action. Yet, these cascading events underline the primary responsibility of the U.S. in fueling global instability.

Why has the past four years seen such widespread chaos? The answer lies within the American “Deep State”—key actors in the U.S. bureaucracy and influence-driven think tanks together with military cum industrial complex which will gain financially. They viewed the President as politically weak and incapable of decisive action, so they pursued their own agendas under the guise of acting in his name. Much of the advice given to Biden pushed for actions that a more independent-minded leader in the Oval Office would likely have rejected. However, a dependent and manipulable President was easily swayed, paving the way for this global unrest.

Why is the return of Trump to the Oval Office and his new cabinet significant? Because it signals a potential end to the influence of the actors who have shaped the current turmoil and ushers in a shift in thinking.

In Ukraine, the war has already claimed countless lives and devastated the country. While the Ukrainian people desperately want peace, their voices are drowned out by the adulation showered on their wartime president. Trump’s first priority should be to end the fighting and bring the warring parties to the negotiating table. If European powers cannot guarantee peace, a skilled mediator must step in. The suffering of Ukrainians, exploited in the name of weakening Russia, must be brought to an end.

The Middle East remains a deeply complex issue, with entrenched conflicts rooted in demands for Palestinian statehood. Gazans and southern Lebanese civilians have endured immense suffering, but a solution is impossible without halting external support. While the Arab world has wealth, it lacks the vision to resolve these crises, often fueling hatred and armed conflict instead. Once the Arabs reach a solution, non-Arab actors like Iran can be excluded. Though Trump’s return has slowed the violence, his firm leadership is needed to keep warmongers at bay.

As for China, the issue lies in the West’s overdependence on Chinese imports, which has allowed China to amass wealth and build a formidable military. However, this military is used more for intimidation than actual conflict. Trump’s plan to tax Chinese imports would curb their economic power and send a clear warning to abandon their territorial ambitions. Unlike others, Trump’s strong stance makes him the right leader to stand up to China.

Elsewhere like Bangladesh or Syria, it is advisable for U.S. to stay out of the conflict. Rather, it should advise outside actors also to stay out.
Biden didn't even know what flavour of ice-cream he was eating.
The entire administration was run by the Big 4:

- Anthony Blinken, the State Department warhawk
- Lloyd Austin, Pentagon's henchman
- Janet Yellen, the financial muscle
- Jake Sullivan, the intel workhorse

These big powerbrokers were backed by the likes of Victoria Nuland, Daleep Singh and Donald Lu. Their financiers were George Soros, Pierre Omidyar, Rockefeller family, and the rest of the acolytes that share power across the Atlantic between DC, London, Paris, Berlin, Milan, and Bern.

China isn't powerful because of Biden's own hand in clearing the landmark China-US agreement alone. It also feeds on the weakness of the West; materialistic avarice that makes them lust after material benefits over principles. It's a win if the Chinese can intimidate anyone to get their job done instead of having to fight anyone militarily. Let's understand that the Chinese are feared and respected more than we are globally when it comes to hard power. Until India is willing to change that image, the world will continue taking us lightly.
 
Biden didn't even know what flavour of ice-cream he was eating.
The entire administration was run by the Big 4:

- Anthony Blinken, the State Department warhawk
- Lloyd Austin, Pentagon's henchman
- Janet Yellen, the financial muscle
- Jake Sullivan, the intel workhorse

These big powerbrokers were backed by the likes of Victoria Nuland, Daleep Singh and Donald Lu. Their financiers were George Soros, Pierre Omidyar, Rockefeller family, and the rest of the acolytes that share power across the Atlantic between DC, London, Paris, Berlin, Milan, and Bern.

China isn't powerful because of Biden's own hand in clearing the landmark China-US agreement alone. It also feeds on the weakness of the West; materialistic avarice that makes them lust after material benefits over principles. It's a win if the Chinese can intimidate anyone to get their job done instead of having to fight anyone militarily. Let's understand that the Chinese are feared and respected more than we are globally when it comes to hard power. Until India is willing to change that image, the world will continue taking us lightly.
No name; just mention bureaucracy and Deep State. Both these tell everything.
 
India is a different story. We never even threaten when disrespected and never follow-through with any tacit threat that we make. That makes us look weak even if we are not. We are seen as harmless. And that doesn't garner any respect internationally. People don't like us - they just think we are these tree-hugging hippies who can't do squat to anyone except Pakistan.

Harmlessness isn't the same as goodness.

It's weak and its pathetic. If India has to get respect, the country has to put in the work.

GoI doesn't do public diplomacy, it doesn't over exert itself beyond it's capacities.

if GoI was such a soft state, folks like harsh mandar won't be jumping up and down on the streets a few years back.
and why was there only one blast outside israeli embassy by iranians, if GoI was a soft state there would have been more such attacks.

read nixon files on what they thought about India in events leading upto 71, India was a much poorer country then.

at best what we can say is that Indian state is a paradox, and it has a strategic communication problem. for a 2500$ per capita country, it is doing just fine.
 
GoI doesn't do public diplomacy, it doesn't over exert itself beyond it's capacities.

if GoI was such a soft state, folks like harsh mandar won't be jumping up and down on the streets a few years back.
and why was there only one blast outside israeli embassy by iranians, if GoI was a soft state there would have been more such attacks.

read nixon files on what they thought about India in events leading upto 71, India was a much poorer country then.

at best what we can say is that Indian state is a paradox, and it has a strategic communication problem. for a 2500$ per capita country, it is doing just fine.
Right. It's doing just fine.
We have survived blunder boy Neheru. Ek aur do Neheru ki aulad ko jhel lenge, yeh kaun si badi baat hai.
 
"Indian-origin businessman played both sides in Nijjar-Pannun probe"

"Observers note that the businessman, who once wielded significant influence in Delhi’s political and corporate circles during 2000-2015, may have exploited his connections to gain insider knowledge to portray himself as a critical player for both Indian and U.S officials."


 
Trump and India: an Upcoming Riddle

Trump’s confident stance following his three-tier election victory has emboldened him to take on various targets, including Democrats who lost control of both houses of Congress. His immediate focus appears to be the US Attorney General’s office, that prosecuted him and his supporters for relatively minor infractions. Additionally, he is poised to dismantle Biden-era immigration policies that have facilitated both legal and illegal border entries. Both moves enjoy significant public backing.

On the international stage, Trump’s potential to end the Ukraine war and pressure Europe to self-fund its defense could reshape global dynamics, fostering European self-reliance. However, the Middle East remains a thorny issue. Even if peace is achieved between Israel and its neighbors, internal conflicts between Shiite and Sunni Muslims would likely persist, reflecting a centuries-old struggle. Trump’s proposed policy of halting arms supplies to all sides could help avoid major escalations.

Trade remains his most contentious arena. Trump’s push to rectify decades-old trade imbalances targets key partners like Canada, China, and India. His strategy involves imposing steep tariffs—25% on Canada and up to 70% on China—to correct deficits that reach hundreds of billions annually. While this risks triggering a tariff war, Trump believes it will ultimately restore balanced trade, though consumers may bear the brunt in the short term.

India, however, faces a unique challenge. While its merchandise exports to the U.S. are modest (about $100 billion and imports from U.S. about $50 billion), India’s true strength lies in software exports and the H1B visa program, which enables highly skilled professionals to support American industries. Trump’s stance on curbing these visas threatens not only Indian workers but also the U.S. economy, which relies heavily on this talent pool. The exact implications of his policies remain unclear, but they signal significant changes ahead. Also, his threat of ‘reciprocal tariffs’ does not sound very convincing as I said above, US merchandise imports from India are minuscule compared to the total U.S. merchandise imports from elsewhere.

The post-COVID “China+1” strategy has already positioned India as a vital alternative manufacturing hub, exemplified by Apple’s successful shift of operations from China to India. Many companies are adopting similar strategies, but Trump’s potential tariffs on Indian imports could disrupt this momentum. While these threats may be largely rhetorical, their impact on U.S.-India economic ties is uncertain.

If Trump adopts a balanced approach toward India, the country’s economy could accelerate from 8% to 10% growth. However, a more restrictive policy might force H1B aspirants to stay home and delay expansion plans for American, European, and Asian companies.

India can sweeten the deal by buying high priced American military hardware and provide land and other facilities at cut rate prices to other companies considering relocation or expansion. Tesla company is waiting for this opportunity. They are unhappy that Chinese copied all their electric car technology and now are building cut rate priced cars for world export. They wish to relocate when newer and better electric vehicle technology is invented. Already, Tesla’s sister company has acquired rights to use satellite TV in India, in face of local opposition. The whole idea is to invite U.S. businesses to India and via Elon Musk and open the U.S. investment floodgate. These are all good news.

Hence, the future remains uncertain, but for now, we can only hope for the best.
 
India can sweeten the deal by buying high priced American military hardware and provide land and other facilities at cut rate prices to other companies considering relocation or expansion. Tesla company is waiting for this opportunity. They are unhappy that Chinese copied all their electric car technology and now are building cut rate priced cars for world export. They wish to relocate when newer and better electric vehicle technology is invented. Already, Tesla’s sister company has acquired rights to use satellite TV in India, in face of local opposition. The whole idea is to invite U.S. businesses to India and via Elon Musk and open the U.S. investment floodgate. These are all good news.

Starlink cannot be allowed. IF we did not allow Facebook to establish internet in India the same must be said for Tesla.

We do need to buy more P-8I, C-130J, Chinooks, MH-90R and AEWC birds. Just not fighter planes unless we get the MRO and software that comes with it that essentially keeps us free of American interference.
 
Starlink cannot be allowed. IF we did not allow Facebook to establish internet in India the same must be said for Tesla.

We do need to buy more P-8I, C-130J, Chinooks, MH-90R and AEWC birds. Just not fighter planes unless we get the MRO and software that comes with it that essentially keeps us free of American interference.
Perfect agreement with you but in the process cannot jeopardize rest of the economy. Something has give to prevent Trump imposing disaster on nascent Indian economy.

Yes!, there are no American fighter planes under consideration. Even if grudgingly they offer F35, it is likely to come with a Kill Switch which gives Americans a stranglehold on fighters, if India goes for the American fighters. That will not acceptable and will not happen.

It is other imports from US where some tariffs have to go. As an example Harley Davidson motor cycle import duty of 100% will have to be reduced.
 

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