Israel x Iran Conflict (83 Viewers)

Once U.S. begins attacking Iran using military bases in Pakistan, Iran’s military could be neutralized within 10–12 days, after which U.S. would move to install a puppet regime in Tehran—similar to what they’ve done in Pakistan.
Hopefully even if that regime come it keeps the hatred for Pakistan. Maybe our Raa could help in fueling that sentiment. Thus keeping the pain on Bakistan's ass alive.
 
What do y’all think the second and third order effects would be for us if the current Khomeini regime were to collapse and an America backed Shah were installed? How would that impact us in our next war against the Pakis?

They've been trying to gain strategic depth for a long time (unsuccessfully so in Afghanistan) and now, after we’ve nearly annihilated their entire ground and air assets and destroyed their airbases, they’re even more desperate for it. A pro U.S. Shah regime could potentially allow them to safeguard their most critical assets and personnel inside Iran, just like they did during the 1965 & 1971 wars.

Is that a real possibility? Could we see a repeat of that scenario? Or am I overthinking this?
There is no possibility of the shah making a comeback. In case regime collapse does happen they will pakistanized. A sham democracy with a powerful us backed military calling the shots.
 
Hopefully even if that regime come it keeps the hatred for Pakistan. Maybe our Raa could help in fueling that sentiment. Thus keeping the pain on Bakistan's ass alive.
In 1971, Pakistan, the American-backed Shah of Iran, and NATO were all aligned against India—yet a financially poor but militarily strong India forced the biggest surrender in human history on Pakistan in just 12 days. ✌️
 
Iran has a rotten society or people hate the mullah regime and only bend the knee out of fear for such deep penetration to take place
Literally traitors and corrupt people everywhere it seems.



It's mostly Irani locals, not actual mossad jooz running around there.

Well their women don't want to wear hijab .. And it's quiet funny for a govt to force a head scarf on woman 😂 . There are better things to do like protecting airspace and so on . They poisoned lots of school girls for hijab protest . What do you expect ..
 
Well their women don't want to wear hijab .. And it's quiet funny for a govt to force a head scarf on woman 😂 . There are better things to do like protecting airspace and so on . They poisoned lots of school girls for hijab protest . What do you expect ..
If Iran had invested in modern education, science, technology, and industrialization, it could have developed a military-industrial complex similar to North Korea’s.
 
North Korea doesn’t have the oil wealth of Iran, yet it has built a capable military-industrial complex and a professionally trained military. That’s because it focused on strengthening its internal economy, infrastructure, and defense production. North Korea is a true juggernaut in its own way.

#FundKaveriEngine
 
The biggest lesson for India from these conflicts is the urgent need to build a powerful indigenous military-industrial complex—one that rivals or surpasses those of Russia, France, and the UK. A strong domestic defense industry is the only path to a truly independent foreign policy. Whether it was the Maurya Empire, Gupta Empire, Maratha Empire, or Chola Empire, all of them prioritized a robust military-industrial base alongside a strong economy.
 
Once the U.S. installs a puppet regime in Iran, it will become just another American puppet—no different from Pakistan.

But India today isn’t the India of 1971—it’s now the world’s 4th largest economy. Strangely though, back in 1971, India spent 3.65% of its GDP on defense, whereas today it spends just 1.9%. The Indian Air Force isn’t as large as it was back then, and the submarine fleet has also shrunk, but India now possesses three nuclear submarines. Ironically, a poor, resource-starved India with barely any foreign reserves managed to build the world’s first supersonic fighter jet in the 1960s—something that stands in sharp contrast to today’s India, with $700 billion in forex reserves and far greater economic strength.
I have no qualms about the capabilities our armed forces possess; they have proven time and again that when push comes to shove, they can outperform expectations, as seen in how decisively they've humiliated Pakistan in this 2025 conflict.

But my concern isn’t about our strength. It's about the strategic consequences of a regime change in Iran. Specifically, a U.S.-installed government in Tehran that might either be overtly supportive of Pakistan or, at the very least, aligned with broader American interests in the subcontinent.
There is no possibility of the shah making a comeback. In case regime collapse does happen they will pakistanized. A sham democracy with a powerful us backed military calling the shots.

Given historical precedent like in 1965, when Iran under the Shah allowed Pakistan to safeguard key military assets. I don't think it's far-fetched to imagine a repeat of said scenario. If Pakistan were to once again gain strategic depth through Iranian territory, especially to shield its critical assets or command structures, it would create a severe operational challenge for us. In operation sindoor we were able to use this exact lack of depth Pakistan got, for our successful attacks

In this case, we’d then again face a situation where any attempt to neutralize those assets could be interpreted as an act of war against Iran, in addition to Pakistan. That fundamentally complicates our escalation calculus and undermines our ability to decisively end a conflict on our terms.
 
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So let us put some facts on the table.

Israel has completely wiped out the top military leadership of Iran. The chief of staff commander of IRGC commander of emergency forces senior adviser of the supreme leader along with a dozen nuclear scientists and top generals across Iran.

They have also completely destroyed the nuclear facility Natanz muliple radars and AD units BM launchers too. All in all the entire power structure of Iran is crippled. Hence the lack of response. I doubt anyone even knows what is going on anymore.


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I have no qualms about the capabilities our armed forces possess; they have proven time and again that when push comes to shove, they can outperform expectations, as seen in how decisively they've humiliated Pakistan in this 2025 conflict.

But my concern isn’t about our strength. It's about the strategic consequences of a regime change in Iran. Specifically, a U.S.-installed government in Tehran that might either be overtly supportive of Pakistan or, at the very least, aligned with broader American interests in the subcontinent.


Given historical precedent like in 1965, when Iran under the Shah allowed Pakistan to safeguard key military assets. I don't think it's far-fetched to imagine a repeat of said scenario. If Pakistan were to once again gain strategic depth through Iranian territory, especially to shield its critical assets or command structures, it would create a severe operational challenge for us. In operation sindoor we were able to use this exact lack of depth Pakistan got, for our successful attacks

In this case, we’d then again face a situation where any attempt to neutralize those assets could be interpreted as an act of war against Iran, in addition to Pakistan. That fundamentally complicates our escalation calculus and undermines our ability to decisively end a conflict on our terms.
Of course an American puppet regime in Iran would make Pakistan very happy —Pakistanis love being obedient puppets of the U.S. themselves. They’d love to see Iran follow the same path so they can once again loaf around on Iranian oil and American dollars, just like they did during the Afghan war—raking in billions in U.S. aid and Saudi petrodollars while doing Washington’s bidding.
 
If a U.S.-Iran conflict breaks out, the professional beggars in Pakistan will once again find a way to milk billions from the U.S. and NATO—just like they did during the Afghan war, proudly offering their soil as a launchpad for the U.S. military to invade Afghanistan.
 
In 1971, Pakistan, the American-backed Shah of Iran, and NATO were all aligned against India—yet a financially poor but militarily strong India forced the biggest surrender in human history on Pakistan in just 12 days. ✌️

Even the Israelis for the same Western jamaat reason, donated Mirage IIIs to Napakistan in the same war


They are not directly named but called an "unidentified middle eastern ally"
 
What do y’all think the second and third order effects would be for us if the current Khomeini regime were to collapse and an America backed Shah were installed? How would that impact us in our next war against the Pakis?

They've been trying to gain strategic depth for a long time (unsuccessfully so in Afghanistan) and now, after we’ve nearly annihilated their entire ground and air assets and destroyed their airbases, they’re even more desperate for it. A pro U.S. Shah regime could potentially allow them to safeguard their most critical assets and personnel inside Iran, just like they did during the 1965 & 1971 wars.

Is that a real possibility? Could we see a repeat of that scenario? Or am I overthinking this?

You are absolutely correct and it doesn't require a Shah, it could be a simply Republican democrazy setup, or one like Pakistan or Turkey where everything is managed by an omnipotent military.
This would be a big problem for us since we can't hit PAF assets in Iran.
 
You are absolutely correct and it doesn't require a Shah, it could be a simply Republican democrazy setup, or one like Pakistan or Turkey where everything is managed by an omnipotent military.
This would be a big problem for us since we can't hit PAF assets in Iran.
U.S. military doesn’t understand Pakistan the way the Indian military does. India has deep familiarity with the terrain, on-ground intelligence, and a long history of conducting operations inside Pakistani territory.
 

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