Operation Sindoor & Aftermath (206 Viewers)

If you want to be chindi better sell our country to the US and become their rakhail, you can spend 1% of GDP on defense which will be enough to cover OROP and any opex.
That assumes that US will actually help us and not just give us a lip service like pre-65. Probably it will throw some breadcrumbs that's it. You will still stay a chindi and on your own. US won't let us become military competent either.
 
That assumes that US will actually help us and not just give us a lip service like pre-65. Probably it will throw some breadcrumbs that's it. You will still stay a chindi and on your own.

Ye bhi hai

btw being "rakhail" includes those US bases on Indian soil.

We will become like Thailand then, more GDPeeee, more ekanamiiiii
 
Ye bhi hai

btw being "rakhail" includes those US bases on Indian soil.

We will become like Thailand then, more GDPeeee, more ekanamiiiii
They don't want that they want us to be like Paxtan. Unofficial US base. They don't want India to be economically too strong either because of their China experience.
 
They don't want that they want us to be like Paxtan. Unofficial US base. They don't want India to be economically too strong either because of their China experience.

No they do want bases here to fiddle with China.
Also to keep India in place.

If they make India their rakhail, they will get the benefits of a China like manufacturing setup but without any geopolitical rivalry.
 
I'm not sure but they( US & UK ) tried this during the '65 war by arms embargoing us.
This was done in a sem2sem and equal equal manner

Piglets saw this as a betrayal and did dostana with China
India saw this also as a betrayal and eventually made a Deal with the Soviet """""devil""""""

Earlier both were friendly with the US and both purchased arms from the Bri'ish merchant.

Yesterday's arms embargo is today's tariff threat and trade deal dhamki.

There's a military historian called Col. Ajay Raina who appears frequently on various podcasts/youtube channels and has written several books - I forgot the details of what specifically was to be given away, but I remember he's said that Nehru had sent a delegation to Pakistan to give away even more of J&K and "settle" the issue. But fortunately the delegation were surprised to learn while they were there, that Pakistan was ceding Shaksgam Valley to China at the same time, and after that the delegation left without reaching the originally intended settlement
 
Indian online defence exfarts love giving long e-bhashans about how the US is not a reliable ally, how we will become their supplicant if we try to ally with them etc. Please shut the fk up and save your e-breath. We are facing a superpower in a potential direct conflict plus a nuclear armed near peer - Forget about state of the art technologies like semiconductors and jet engines we can't even make a lot of medium tech essentials. Less said about our indegnious defence investment the better. Instead of posting the same US-Bad diatribe again and again please spend that bandwidth thinking about what a national defence strategy without any US assistance looks like. I hope it's not some delulu about France, Israel or Russia. We'll have to bite the bullet as needed, and stop pretending we have choices or time to be in-decisive.
 
Indian online defence exfarts love giving long e-bhashans about how the US is not a reliable ally, how we will become their supplicant if we try to ally with them etc. Please shut the fk up and save your e-breath. We are facing a superpower in a potential direct conflict plus a nuclear armed near peer - Forget about state of the art technologies like semiconductors and jet engines we can't even make a lot of medium tech essentials. Less said about our indegnious defence investment the better. Instead of posting the same US-Bad diatribe again and again please spend that bandwidth thinking about what a national defence strategy without any US assistance looks like. I hope it's not some delulu about France, Israel or Russia. We'll have to bite the bullet as needed, and stop pretending we have choices or time to be in-decisive.
Oh common you shut up did your father US ever came to help us during 65, 71, 99? Oh wait a second it was supporting our enemy Pakistan. Look at history. South Korea is still divided in half. Greece lost a significant part of its territory to Turkey while being part of the NATO system. Ukraine, after years of Western alignment and security assurances, is now a devastated battlefield. These are the outcomes of blind trust in external powers with shifting priorities.

And to those people like you who call blind alignment with the US "decisiveness", does decisiveness now mean being impulsive, insecure, frightened and rushing into the arms of another power without fully evaluating the consequences?

That is not decisiveness. That is recklessness.
 
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Indian online defence exfarts love giving long e-bhashans about how the US is not a reliable ally, how we will become their supplicant if we try to ally with them etc. Please shut the fk up and save your e-breath. We are facing a superpower in a potential direct conflict plus a nuclear armed near peer - Forget about state of the art technologies like semiconductors and jet engines we can't even make a lot of medium tech essentials. Less said about our indegnious defence investment the better. Instead of posting the same US-Bad diatribe again and again please spend that bandwidth thinking about what a national defence strategy without any US assistance looks like. I hope it's not some delulu about France, Israel or Russia. We'll have to bite the bullet as needed, and stop pretending we have choices or time to be in-decisive.
US wants you to be it's vassal state . It demands your troops on ground for its own benefits.
Basically US don't need a ally it needs a slave . If you are ready for that then please go ahead and have a deal with US.
 
Indian online defence exfarts love giving long e-bhashans about how the US is not a reliable ally, how we will become their supplicant if we try to ally with them etc. Please shut the fk up and save your e-breath. We are facing a superpower in a potential direct conflict plus a nuclear armed near peer - Forget about state of the art technologies like semiconductors and jet engines we can't even make a lot of medium tech essentials. Less said about our indegnious defence investment the better. Instead of posting the same US-Bad diatribe again and again please spend that bandwidth thinking about what a national defence strategy without any US assistance looks like. I hope it's not some delulu about France, Israel or Russia. We'll have to bite the bullet as needed, and stop pretending we have choices or time to be in-decisive.
The problem isn't even that we have to toe the US line and pay them for gear. It's that we will pay them and not even get stuff.
 
Indian online defence exfarts love giving long e-bhashans about how the US is not a reliable ally, how we will become their supplicant if we try to ally with them etc. Please shut the fk up and save your e-breath. We are facing a superpower in a potential direct conflict plus a nuclear armed near peer - Forget about state of the art technologies like semiconductors and jet engines we can't even make a lot of medium tech essentials. Less said about our indegnious defence investment the better. Instead of posting the same US-Bad diatribe again and again please spend that bandwidth thinking about what a national defence strategy without any US assistance looks like. I hope it's not some delulu about France, Israel or Russia. We'll have to bite the bullet as needed, and stop pretending we have choices or time to be in-decisive.

US e-dalals must also stop with the "10 FOOT CHINAMAN IS CUMMING, WE HAVE TO WHORE OURSELVES OUT TO THE US IMMEDIATELY TO SURVIVE!"

"PAKISTAN? WHAT PAKISTAN?"

Anyway with the current trajectory of un-abated Chindigiri all e-Dallas will get their wish of US vassaldom.

Whether it helps us against China, or we end up like Ukraine
And as to what are we "allowed" to do viz Pakistan will remain to be seen.

But yes this is the cost of chindigiri and apathy.

When i will have white in my hair and beard, when the country is inevitably( as it seems today ) sold to the US to be it's randiya, I wonder if the same dalals here will be talking about "peace with Pakistan" because it is our mutual ally or some shit :bplease:
 
US wants you to be it's vassal state . It demands your troops on ground for its own benefits.
Basically US don't need a ally it needs a slave . If you are ready for that then please go ahead and have a deal with US.

These dalals actually think the US will come to save us from the 10 foot China man lmao.

Or they think we whore the country out and immediately they'll shower us with F-35s, while being blind to Ukraine being given 80s hand me downs at max and their missiles have an attached T&C about where all can they hit Russia.

They're more likely to tell us to cede AP to China just so as to not drag them into our "mess".
 
The problem isn't even that we have to toe the US line and pay them for gear. It's that we will pay them and not even get stuff.
It wasn't even too long ago when it was thought that though the US equipment is expensive, at least it will be delivered on time and have a better quality. As far as the economic parameters go, the US has become a larger economy with a relatively larger manufacturing base. I think this whole experience is a lesson for India. In order to sell weapons and gain a foothold into the market, the bigger players will initially jump and overachieve to impress the babus, netas and the Chandigarh lobby but once you put in larger orders, all of them, without exception will fuck you over.
 
US e-dalals must also stop with the "10 FOOT CHINAMAN IS CUMMING, WE HAVE TO WHORE OURSELVES OUT TO THE US IMMEDIATELY TO SURVIVE!"

"PAKISTAN? WHAT PAKISTAN?"

Anyway with the current trajectory of un-abated Chindigiri all e-Dallas will get their wish of US vassaldom.

Whether it helps us against China, or we end up like Ukraine
And as to what are we "allowed" to do viz Pakistan will remain to be seen.

But yes this is the cost of chindigiri and apathy.

When i will have white in my hair and beard, when the country is inevitably( as it seems today ) sold to the US to be it's randiya, I wonder if the same dalals here will be talking about "peace with Pakistan" because it is our mutual ally or some shit :bplease:
They will cope how US will save us from Chinaman but to their surprise all US will do is throwing some breadcrumbs. And it will do everything to destroy whatever strategic autonomy we have in defence sector. Why do you think Israeli dalals are interfering so much in our indigenous projects? By hook or by crook. US doesn't want us to be decisively victorious against China. They want us to be another Ukraine, where China get stuck in a long war, for that to happen China has to reach further into the mainland India. Which will force India to use its strategic weapons. That won't happen if India is strong enough on its own. In that case India will just repel the attacks on the border and it won't be harmed much.

Ek goli do shikar.
 
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The Impact of Op Sindoor-:

Pakistan is thinking about handing over Hafiz syeed and Azahar masood to India.

Although India had achieved all the objectives of Op Sindoor. But if this happens.. It will be a big big achievement.


View: https://x.com/TahaSSiddiqui/status/1941493973840806027?t=pbFGpcMxqAXoz2mhX0-gxA&s=19

Personally I would want IWT to remain in abeyance. What the hell we will get by taking in those old farts who are going to get replaced soon with new Jehadi leaders. It is an obvious bait by Paxtan. Win win from their PoV if India accept this and re-instate IWT again.
 
The Impact of Op Sindoor-:

Pakistan is thinking about handing over Hafiz syeed and Azahar masood to India.

Although India had achieved all the objectives of Op Sindoor. But if this happens.. It will be a big big achievement.


View: https://x.com/TahaSSiddiqui/status/1941493973840806027?t=pbFGpcMxqAXoz2mhX0-gxA&s=19


It's another scam just like 26/11's dossier-dossier.

A lot of ((( talks ))) will happen
A lot of ((( documents ))) will be exchanged

Hoga ghanta

Leaderji did a quick trial with this over the unsolicited jhappi with Nawaz and inviting ISI investigators to Pathakot airbase after the attack.

He too got ghanta in terms of results and now today you have Op Sindoor

In another 10-15 years US dalals will get what they want and all we will do is talk with Billo Rani or equivalents.
 
Personally I would want IWT to remain in abeyance. What the hell we will get by taking in those old farts who are going to get replaced soon with new Jehadi leaders. It is an obvious bait by Paxtan. Win win for them.
It isn't mandatory for a water treaty to be in place at all. It should be purely transactional. If Pakistan shows good faith in dealing with terrorists, India will do the same with water. Speak softly but always carry a big stick. This is the only way these mongrels can be put in their place. You give these bastards an inch and they will take a mile. There should be no talk of any water treaty until J&K experiences at least 20 years with no terrorist activity.
 
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When i will have white in my hair and beard, when the country is inevitably( as it seems today ) sold to the US to be it's randiya, I wonder if the same dalals here will be talking about "peace with Pakistan" because it is our mutual ally or some shit :bplease:
With the way things are, we will all have white in our hair and beard very soon due to worry/recession/pandemic 2: electric boogaloo/Politics/opposition rules india etc
 
The Impact of Op Sindoor-:

Pakistan is thinking about handing over Hafiz syeed and Azahar masood to India.

Although India had achieved all the objectives of Op Sindoor. But if this happens.. It will be a big big achievement.


View: https://x.com/TahaSSiddiqui/status/1941493973840806027?t=pbFGpcMxqAXoz2mhX0-gxA&s=19

Bhutto speaks one thing in English and something else in Urdu.

Who is he to hand over Hafiz Saeed to India? Instead Hafiz Saeed can send him and his fuddu family to India 🤣

In their minds it's just a carrot so that we can talk, but Op Sindoor 2.0 needs to be brutal and unflinching.
 

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